Free the youngsters...My new lineup

maggsmaggs · June 17, 2007

Alright, Josh's home run and seeing Sweeney get his average to .300 down in AAA, I have had it with the old guys and am ready to let the youngsters play.

LF-Ryan Sweeney (we aren't going anywhere this year, let him get his slumps in the majors and learn up here)

CF-Brian Anderson (okay, he clearly has struggled, but most youngsters struggle there first year or two, give him his at-bats, so we know if he has improved. Brings great D and energy, of course he needs to be healthy first)

RF-Dye (needs to get hot, so Sox can maximize his trade value)

3B-Fields (he is good and is just gonna get better with ABs)

SS-Richar (I dont really care who is at short, but it just better not be Juan who is the worst starter in the big leagues, his D is vastly overrated because of how many stupid mental errors he makes when he doesn't concentrate, if Richar can't play short, then the we dealt a 4-tool CF for a 2nd baseman which would make the deal s***ty).

2B-Iguchi (same thing with Dye, hope he gets hot so his trade value goes up).

1B-Konerko (we still have him for 3+ years, he ain't going anywhere)

DH-Thome

C-AJ (no options other than him, even though his game is declining everyday)

This lineup is gonna struggle no doubt to score runs, but our current lineup is not doing much. I would rather go down (which is inevitable anyway) with youngsters getting the playing time. You can get Ryan 300 at bats in the majors the rest of the year and watch him progress, same with Anderson. Brian was our first round pick and he needs to play to see if he can be counted on as a starter in the future or not. I for one thing he has gotten a s*** job by Ozzie. KW let the kids play.

Thoughts?

Edited June 17, 2007 by maggsmaggs

danman31 · June 17, 2007

Get off Cunningham's sack.

maggsmaggs · June 17, 2007

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 08:34 PM)

Get off Cunningham's sack.

Hey, he is my Sox minor league man crush. I can't help it. LOL

ChWRoCk2 · June 17, 2007

Danny Richar appearently is not much of a fielder either anymore than Juan is, and his arm is supposed to be just as good. This is just from his report though.

Heads22 · June 17, 2007

I'd be surprised if Brian is still in this organization come August 1.

jackie hayes · June 17, 2007

Jason Kendall is easily the worst starter in baseball right now. I literally can't disagree more about Uribe's defense. And, as strange as it is to hear myself say it, I would like to see more of Luis Terrero.

Kalapse · June 17, 2007

Anderson is done, you'll never see him in silver and black again. Terrero needs to be out there everyday in CF even when Erstad makes his way back to the lineup.

winninguglyin83 · June 17, 2007

i agree that Sweeney needs to play.

find out what he can do and what he can't do.

punt Owens.

He's a fourth or fifth outfielder as well as a pinch runner.

Fields is guaranteed ABs because of Crede's injury.

not as down on Uribe as everybody else

And we don't have another option.

like to see us trade Dye, Pods and perhaps Iguchi.

As for Anderson, he's done nothing special offensively at Charlotte and sez his shoulder hurts so he can't play the field.

Not the recipe for a promotion.

But resign Buehrle.

The quickest way to turn the ship around will be to keep Buehrle and Garland.

Chisoxfn · June 17, 2007

Owens is trade bait...Sweeney should be up and getting consistent at bats with Josh Fields. My guess is we will see that happen, but not until the Sox make a trade or two (which will hopefully be before July 1st).

bulokis · June 17, 2007

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 02:13 PM)

Owens is trade bait...Sweeney should be up and getting consistent at bats with Josh Fields. My guess is we will see that happen, but not until the Sox make a trade or two (which will hopefully be before July 1st).

I agree Sweeney has to be with the Sox soon. We have Fields now and he has a chance to get his rookie mistakes this year. I hope Sweeney gets a chance to play and finish up the year. We should start by trading our bench players like Mack, Cintron and give the young blood time to play. Give Richar a chance to play 2nd base and find somebody to replace Uribe.

Dye and Iguchi seems to be starting to heat up which is good for us so we can get more for them.

The Beast · June 17, 2007

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 08:57 PM)

But resign Buehrle.

The quickest way to turn the ship around will be to keep Buehrle and Garland.

I agree with you when you say resign Buehrle and keep Garland, too. I think the Sox wanted to see how Buehrle could rebound from last year, and I think Buehrle wanted to perform in his contract year so he can test the market. However, Buehrle could take the Konerko like route and stay with the Sox.

If they could, they should subtract:

Contreras, Uribe, Crede, (in the off-season) Dye, Podsednik (not sure what his value is), Erstad (in the off-season) and Anderson.

What could you get for Contreras?

Balta1701 · June 17, 2007

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 12:13 PM)

Owens is trade bait...Sweeney should be up and getting consistent at bats with Josh Fields. My guess is we will see that happen, but not until the Sox make a trade or two (which will hopefully be before July 1st).

Is there anything the Sox can do with Sweeney by keeping him down this year that will add another year to his arb clock despite the fact that he was already up once? (Yes, I'm being cheap).

And on Anderson, I'd like to see him up, but not yet. He's still getting over some shoulder issues and he hasn't yet found anything resembling a AAA groove with the bat yet.

I'd still hate for this organization to give up on him and sell when he's at his dead lowest value, but there's no reason for him to be on the big league team right now.

Post trading deadline, I think it might be a decent idea to work that kid back in if the team ever expects to get anything out of him.

SoxAce · June 17, 2007

Good thread and I agree. Give me and most fans something to watch this season. Fields and Danks are really the only players I enjoy watching on this team. (I would say Jenks too but he hardly is out there)

Chisoxfn · June 17, 2007

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 02:31 PM)

I agree with you when you say resign Buehrle and keep Garland, too. I think the Sox wanted to see how Buehrle could rebound from last year, and I think Buehrle wanted to perform in his contract year so he can test the market. However, Buehrle could take the Konerko like route and stay with the Sox.

If they could, they should subtract:

Contreras, Uribe, Crede, (in the off-season) Dye, Podsednik (not sure what his value is), Erstad (in the off-season) and Anderson.

What could you get for Contreras?

Beastly, good seeing you back around here.

I think you'd have to move Erstad now. If he comes back and plays grinderish he's good enough to help a contender and get you a mid-level prospect. Pods could be the same type of situation...same with Uribe and Iguchi.

All the while Contreras should be able to get you a pretty darn good prospect (not likely a top 100 prospect, but a top 5 in a teams system) plus another top 10 prospect or similar to that (imo) while Dye should get you a pretty nice package to boot (definitely should get you close to two top 5 prospects, plus maybe a lower level prospect thats top 20 in a teams system).

Conteras is a deal that depends on whether you can get him to waive his no trade clause (but it should be a no brainer if he says yes...same as the Dye deal). I also think Thome is another guy that is a no brainer to trade (because he's out in a year, has injury problems and I completely think its assinine to have your best hitter as a DH when you are an AL team because in the end you are at a disadvantage for interleague play as well as the world series...and yes I know its being nit picky but I feel thats the case).

Keep Garland, Keep Buehrle (Buehrle to a 5 year deal...extend Jon's contract...keep Vazquez unless you get overwhelmed with an offer....my reasoning is Vazquez has an affordable deal so no reason to panick and move him now...however if you dealt him, it would be to get more young talent, open up spots to let the young starters battle and give the Sox time to evaluate them this year before the Sox decide whether to go out and add another veteran pitcher to head the 08 rotation with Garland/Buehrle).

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 03:37 PM)

Is there anything the Sox can do with Sweeney by keeping him down this year that will add another year to his arb clock despite the fact that he was already up once? (Yes, I'm being cheap).

And on Anderson, I'd like to see him up, but not yet. He's still getting over some shoulder issues and he hasn't yet found anything resembling a AAA groove with the bat yet.

I'd still hate for this organization to give up on him and sell when he's at his dead lowest value, but there's no reason for him to be on the big league team right now.

Post trading deadline, I think it might be a decent idea to work that kid back in if the team ever expects to get anything out of him.

I don't know how clear I can get, but I would be absolutely stunned to ever see Anderson don a White Sox uniform again. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I highly doubt it will. However, if they really do a turn and burn and Anderson is still in the org after July 31st (I doubt it) than your right he will be up.

Sweeney should come up for good and get at bats along with Fields. I also think in time, we should see the new guy Richars up (once Guchi is moved).

chisoxfan79 · June 17, 2007

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 12:58 AM)