danman31 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 DeSalvo and Floyd duel, but Knights fall 3-2 Pods 1-3, R, BB, SB Sweeney 2-4, 2 2B, 2 RBI, K Anderson 0-3, 2 K Floyd 7 IP, 2 R, 7 K, 2 BB, 3 hits Sisco 2 IP, 1 R, 1 K, 4 BB, 1 hit Barons lost 3-2 in 16 freaking innings Gio 6 IP, 2 R, 6 K, 2 BB, 4 hits Collaro 2-7, solo HR, 2 K Nanita 2-6, 2B, K Hogs downed 6-1 Zaleski 5 IP, 3 R Richard 1 IP, 2 H out of the pen (before you guys speculate too much the All-Star break starts Monday and the pen appeared a bit used so I'm going to assume this was a one time thing) Kanny scored 19 runs Carter 4-5, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 5 R, BB, K Allen 5-6, 2B, 2 RBI, 4 R, SB Gartrell 3-4, HR, 4 RBI, 3 R, K Gomes 3-4, 4 RBI Rasner 5 IP, 3 R Brooks 3 IP, 1 R (0 ER), 3 K, 2 hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Looks like Sisco's got a LOT of work to do still. Convert him back into a SP already. And another good outing for Floyd. He's getting closer to the majors with each start it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Floyd might finally be getting into a groove. no room for him at the inn -- unless we trade a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 no getz in the bham lineup...could he be getting a callup? or injured? just a day off? anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 I like the way Floyd has been pitching lately. truthfully, it seems as though he just needs time to adjust to his surroundings and then he takes off. i hope when/if he gets promoted to the CWS that management give him ample time to get settled and comfortable. the most important thing for him is his confidence, as he has dominant stuff (which was why he was once more highly regarded than Cole Hamels)... i say we give him the opportunity sooner than later and let him get a large number of starts under his belt in order to get acclimated and hopefully gain some serious comfidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 09:12 PM) no getz in the bham lineup...could he be getting a callup? or injured? just a day off? anyone know? He hasn't played since May 20 because of injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Carter is ridiculous, and he should have been up to, at least, High A Ball yesterday. Floyd being Floyd, and it's nice to see Sisco really working on that control . Sweeney is a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Very happy seeing these performances out of Gavin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 throw out that one bad outing by Giovany and he's looking at a 2.15 ERA with 66 K's and 13 BB's in 50.1 IP impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Brandon Allen up to .277 after his 5-6 performance, maybe he's finally living up to his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 03:11 AM) Brandon Allen up to .277 after his 5-6 performance, maybe he's finally living up to his potential. I hope so. Allen has really been heating up recently and let's hope he keeps it up. He's only 21 still, so he's young enough to be considered a prospect. If he could end the year in the .285-.290 range, he may be back on the prospect radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 09:21 PM) He hasn't played since May 20 because of injury. well i guess i havent been following too closely then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Carter and Shnur need to be called up, I'm curious to see if Gio ends up in Triple A, and it's GREAT to see Gavin pitching so well lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Gio should be up mid season to get him ready for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 09:00 PM) Floyd might finally be getting into a groove. no room for him at the inn -- unless we trade a starter. I think you've picked up on the first deal in the upcoming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 10:10 AM) I think you've picked up on the first deal in the upcoming weeks. Gavin Floyd lately is making KW's job so much easier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 10:11 PM) Brandon Allen up to .277 after his 5-6 performance, maybe he's finally living up to his potential. I was just going to say that... He is still a young buck, so there is time for him. The power numbers arent' there this year so far, but hopefully he can add those back without subtracting the average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Considering this is the 4th year Floyd has had starts in AAA, I don't think anyone should get too excited about a little success. I don't know why people want to make Sisco a starter. He throws 35 pitches an inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 01:11 PM) Considering this is the 4th year Floyd has had starts in AAA, I don't think anyone should get too excited about a little success. I don't know why people want to make Sisco a starter. He throws 35 pitches an inning. Sisco needs to work on his muscle memory, his release points, and his secondary pitches. Being a starter would let him work on all of that, even if he ends up as a reliever at a future time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 12:10 PM) I think you've picked up on the first deal in the upcoming weeks. I don't think there's any team in baseball other than us that'd trade for Gavin Floyd. Before Kenny picked him up, everyone considered him a bust, and I doubt there are many people in baseball who are about to gamble on it because he's had a few good starts in the IL his fourth year in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 02:02 PM) I don't think there's any team in baseball other than us that'd trade for Gavin Floyd. Before Kenny picked him up, everyone considered him a bust, and I doubt there are many people in baseball who are about to gamble on it because he's had a few good starts in the IL his fourth year in AAA. Thanks for displaying your knowledge of baseball. No GM would consider a top 5 draft pick who was a top 10 prospect in the game 2 years ago with no injuries a bust. Every GM would also love to take a chance on the guy. I'm not getting into the argument of whether he is ready or not, but he has shown some Major League success in the past (3.49 ERA in 28.1 IP in 2004) and his AAA numbers this year are the best of his career in a hitters' park. Don't call this guy a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) Thanks for displaying your knowledge of baseball. No GM would consider a top 5 draft pick who was a top 10 prospect in the game 2 years ago with no injuries a bust. Every GM would also love to take a chance on the guy. I'm not getting into the argument of whether he is ready or not, but he has shown some Major League success in the past (3.49 ERA in 28.1 IP in 2004) and his AAA numbers this year are the best of his career in a hitters' park. Don't call this guy a bust. He's been a massive bust so far....that doesn't mean that label has to stick though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 06:56 PM) He's been a massive bust so far....that doesn't mean that label has to stick though. Konerko was a bust as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 07:01 PM) Konerko was a bust as well. Konerko didn't spend parts of 4 seasons in AAA. Lasorda traded him to Cincinatti because he needed a closer and was concerned about Konerko's hip. The Reds traded him for an up and comer who they used to get Ken Griffey Jr. Floyd was dumped by Philadelphia, using the courtesy line, "all he needs is a change of scenery". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) Thanks for displaying your knowledge of baseball. No GM would consider a top 5 draft pick who was a top 10 prospect in the game 2 years ago with no injuries a bust. Every GM would also love to take a chance on the guy. I'm not getting into the argument of whether he is ready or not, but he has shown some Major League success in the past (3.49 ERA in 28.1 IP in 2004) and his AAA numbers this year are the best of his career in a hitters' park. Don't call this guy a bust. There's a reason the Phillies thought they'd completely ripped us off with the Garcia deal and it isn't because they thought Gio was a load of crap (although I'm not sure they exactly coveted him after his year). There's a reason nobody else ever picked him up, either, and as for you saying, "No GM would consider a top 5 draft pick who was a top 10 prospect in the game 2 years ago with no injuries a bust" that's not true. Gillick thought so and I'm sure there are plenty of other people who think so. The consensus was, "Floyd is a bust" through much of baseball until KW picked him up and I still think he's not good. I know I'm not alone, either, and I'll call him a bust until he proves otherwise. Oh, and as for your numbers -- how selective. 28.1 good IP in 2004. 2004? What about his horrible, horrible run last year? His AAA numbers this year are all right but it's his fourth time in AAA and he's in the terrible IL. I'm not impressed. For what it's worth, I don't think he's ready yet and I know I'm not alone. There are other people here who've said it's not a good idea to bring him up just yet. Give him some time to get used to his success this year. I look forward to his starts for the White Sox, whenever they come, because I want to know whether or not I was right or wrong. I think I know, but I want to know for sure. QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 07:12 PM) Konerko didn't spend parts of 4 seasons in AAA. Lasorda traded him to Cincinatti because he needed a closer and was concerned about Konerko's hip. The Reds traded him for an up and comer who they used to get Ken Griffey Jr. Floyd was dumped by Philadelphia, using the courtesy line, "all he needs is a change of scenery". Why thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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