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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 03:36 PM)
He is a FA after next year, has averaged 18 wins and will just make silly money after next year.

They have tried to trade him how many times.

He is your best trading chip.

For me, he is a sinkerballer and that plays well here. He is someone that I would keep. But you cant fault he is the highest upside of mucho high end specs.

so what? we can afford to have big $$ pitchers like Buehrle and Garland. Then, have your Danks and Gio who make nothing and then Vaz or another guy. But when you have two guys like Mark and Jon who never miss a start, why would you not resign them or keep them? Mark, offer the $$ KW and see what he says. If he says no, trade his ass. But Garland should be kept.

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QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:33 PM)
Why we we trade our Garland? He is signed cheaply (for the market) and he actually goes out there and pitches well. I don't care who you get, the player that comes back will not pitch like Garland.

 

I think we're getting close to saying "screw it" for this year and next basically, and going through a huge rebuilding process. It wouldn't shock me at all if we have 2 rookie starting pitchers in the rotation next year. I also think we'll re-sign Erstad, and Rowand will be brought into CF. In my opinion, KW probably feels like bringing in Rowand will negate a lot of the fan outrage when Buehrle, Garland, and Dye are gone.

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QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 03:39 PM)
so what? we can afford to have big $$ pitchers like Buehrle and Garland. Then, have your Danks and Gio who make nothing and then Vaz or another guy. But when you have two guys like Mark and Jon who never miss a start, why would you not resign them or keep them? Mark, offer the $$ KW and see what he says. If he says no, trade his ass. But Garland should be kept.

 

How many times has Garland been in trade talks. He is nearly traded each offseason.

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Well, if we trade everyone and become the Marlins, I wouldn't cry. If the Sox are gonna lose, I'd rather watcha young, fast team than the older stiffs we have now.

Do we trust KW to get the best prospects or younger players though?

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 03:41 PM)
How many times has Garland been in trade talks. He is nearly traded each offseason.

you'd be surpised how many guys are talked about in serious deals like that. It just so happens that garland was named by Levine.

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QUOTE(Brian @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:42 PM)
Well, if we trade everyone and become the Marlins, I wouldn't cry. If the Sox are gonna lose, I'd rather watcha young, fast team than the older stiffs we have now.

Do we trust KW to get the best prospects or younger players though?

 

I don't trust KW or Ozzie if we go into full rebuilding mode. You need a lot more patience, and a lot less arrogance.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:45 PM)
Ozzie had his hands/arms up in the air and was shaking back and forth mocking someone or something. It was pretty funny. Anyone who says Ozzie's the reason this team is so stiff. Their collective ages are the reason.

 

And how is this more accurate than anything I say about Ozzie? Obviously, it's all a matter of opinion.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:48 PM)
Well, the difference is, someone Ks against Zambrano and you blame Ozzie. I'm just saying it was funny to see Ozzie doing that. Shows Guillen isn't just going through the motions, unlike this team.

 

When did I blame Ozzie for someone striking out?

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