Dick Allen Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 It appears years and years of failure have finally caught up with Mr. Shaffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Yes...now Greg Walker must come next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 There was a rumor of this going around yesterday. Is it actually official? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Finally our scapegoat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Now, who's going to pick our Matt Bush, Bryan Bullington or Kris Benson ? Damn the luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggliopipe Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Good riddance. Our player development could use a shot in the arm, maybe this will help. Hopefully the entire scouting department is given different points of emphasis to look at in prospects (athleticism, etc.) coming from a new director of scouting. If they weren't happy with his performance, why was he still around for the draft though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 QUOTE(maggliopipe @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 01:15 PM) Good riddance. Our player development could use a shot in the arm, maybe this will help. Hopefully the entire scouting department is given different points of emphasis to look at in prospects (athleticism, etc.) coming from a new director of scouting. If they weren't happy with his performance, why was he still around for the draft though? Maybe they kept him around to give him one last chance or a final shot to try and draft legit prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/news/264338.html It's official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and you can take you can take Mark johnson,Jeff Liefer, Jason Stumm, Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter,Kip Wells, Jason Dellaro, Chris Clemons, Scott Chrisman,Kris honel,Royce Ring,Brian Anderson, Kyle McCullough, and Aaron Poreda with you. I say dish out some money and get the scouting director from the Braves or the Twins QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 04:40 PM) Rumor is they pulled Flash out of UIC and he is now our head scouting director. Flash can't be reached for comment, as he has flown himself down to the jungles of Latin America, trying to find the next Liriano. Tell him to find the next Jose Reyes while he is at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 01:43 PM) Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and you can take you can take Mark johnson,Jeff Liefer, Jason Stumm, Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter,Kip Wells, Jason Dellaro, Chris Clemons, Scott Chrisman,Kris honel,Royce Ring,Brian Anderson, Kyle McCullough, and Aaron Poreda with you. I say dish out some money and get the scouting director from the Braves or the Twins Get the old Expos scouts if their avaible, they drafted some great players. Edited June 22, 2007 by sayitaintso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggliopipe Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 02:21 PM) Maybe they kept him around to give him one last chance or a final shot to try and draft legit prospects. Well, maybe, but I don't think enough time has elapsed to evaluate this class. And I thought KW was 'taking the reins' on this draft anyway. Which is another reason that makes me question why he wasn't booted sooner. I guess if this draft class sucks then can still use Shaffer as a scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I heard about this yesterday and I'll add some more info about it. Shaffer apparently had some off-color comments to and about KW, and apparently was doing some other unprofessional things. Interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 "Shaffer, at the helm when the White Sox drafted such stalwarts as Jack McDowell (1987), Joe Crede (1996) and Mark Buehrle (1998)" Hahah, give me a f***ing break....how can you even count Buehrle as a 'good draft' when he went where he did. And lets not forget the YEARS of futility as the scout head. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29thandPoplar Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Not a surprise. Shaffer was basically put on notice over the winter and KW wants Dave Wilder in that spot. We'll see what ends up happening but I do expect them to bring in someone from outside the org. in some capacity, not necessarily Dir. of Scouting but in some position of significant input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 02:12 PM) I heard about this yesterday and I'll add some more info about it. Shaffer apparently had some off-color comments to and about KW, and apparently was doing some other unprofessional things. Interesting stuff. That's not really info...that's a tease! Got anything more specific? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I know it is, as that's all I've gotten out of it so far as well, but I'll press on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 There better be many, many more firings before this year is out. Nobody should be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) There better be many, many more firings before this year is out. Nobody should be safe. This team has not had a below .500 season since 1999. Since 1990, they finished in 1st or 2nd place 14 out of 17 years with one world championship (the other three years in third place). Minnesota can't claim that, Detroit can't claim that and Cleveland, even with their division titles and no WS Championships, can't claim that kind of record. We have had a great run. You should be proud of this organization. They have always been competitive. There needs to be changes made in scouting and the players on the field, but not the mass firings you are hoping for. Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. Edited June 22, 2007 by RibbieRubarb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 At least there is some good news today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 06:05 PM) At least there is some good news today. Better news would be that he owes back pay for some of the miserable draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 11:01 PM) This team has not had a below .500 season since 1999. Since 1990, they finished in 1st or 2nd place 14 out of 17 years with one world championship (the other three years in third place). Minnesota can't claim that, Detroit can't claim that and Cleveland, even with their division titles and no WS Championships, can't claim that kind of record. We have had a great run. You should be proud of this organization. They have always been competitive. There needs to be changes made in scouting and the players on the field, but not the mass firings you are hoping for. Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 We had/have scouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 06:01 PM) This team has not had a below .500 season since 1999. Since 1990, they finished in 1st or 2nd place 14 out of 17 years with one world championship (the other three years in third place). Minnesota can't claim that, Detroit can't claim that and Cleveland, even with their division titles and no WS Championships, can't claim that kind of record. We have had a great run. You should be proud of this organization. They have always been competitive. There needs to be changes made in scouting and the players on the field, but not the mass firings you are hoping for. Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. We've made the playoffs 3 years out of 18 including this year, so once every 6 years. We've won one postseason game or more twice in 18 years, so once every 9. If you enjoy the mediocrity we've had most years (decent, but not good enough) that is your problem sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 11:40 AM) Rumor is they pulled Flash out of UIC and he is now our head scouting director. Flash can't be reached for comment, as he has flown himself down to the jungles of Latin America, trying to find the next Liriano. OMG. Greatest thing I read, all time, all my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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