Linnwood Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Unf***ing believable. Three strikeouts in-a-row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 3 strikeouts. How f***ing pathetic our hitters are. The best hitting coach in baseball cant teach our guys how to make contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Jenks never should of had to come in the game. Bukvich is just the lesser of 3 evils with Aardsma and MacDougal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 What a pathetic team. The next 48 hours aren't going to be fun for this organization. If anything, maybe blowing this game was a positive, as people won't believe this team is turning the corner. I wonder if Ozzie will blame Fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnwood Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Goodbye Mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz615 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Sad,again the O's WAS 0-18 when trailing after 8 inn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Wow, what a deflating loss when Buehrle leaves in the 8th up 6-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> totally especially since hes been one of the best closers in the league this season. But yeah, good point On what are you basing that statement? He has no velocity anymore and really doesn't have much to go with. Everytime I see him on the mound he's giving up a lot of hits. Edited July 3, 2007 by TheBigHurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:02 PM) Why? Because his WHIP and BAA have never been better in his career? If he were consistently at 93-95 mph since 2005 it'd be different. But considering his past injury history and a continuous drop in velocity season to season (not to mention his second half struggles last year), I just can't assume it'll suddenly stop entering 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I was watching ESPN and we were winning and then all of sudden it's another blown game by the bullpen. This is worse than 1977 I think. What the heck is wrong with this group? I am just plain lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:07 PM) On what are you basing that statement? He has no velocity anymore and really doesn't have much to go with. Everytime I see him on the mound he's giving up a lot of hits. Funny. This is the lowest his WHIP has ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 03:08 AM) If he were consistently at 93-95 mph since 2005 it'd be different. But considering his past injury history and a continuous drop in velocity season to season (not to mention his second half struggles last year), I just can't assume it'll suddenly stop entering 2008. And the fact that he can't even be relied on to go 2 innings or in a tie game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 People must think this is the Corey Patterson the Cubs had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:08 PM) If he were consistently at 93-95 mph since 2005 it'd be different. But considering his past injury history and a continuous drop in velocity season to season (not to mention his second half struggles last year), I just can't assume it'll suddenly stop entering 2008. Ah, so ignore his actual performance and stats whatsoever, and consider his velocity drop and an injury that happened years ago, and THAT makes him ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:05 PM) I agree but he has a history of not being good in the second of back to back games This season he's pitched in back to back games 10 times. Out of the 10 second games pitched, he's had 2 bad outings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) This bullpen is a absolute friggin joke.....Thanks for all the memories Mark. Even though personally I would rather see you resigned. Edited July 3, 2007 by EvilJester99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:04 PM) I'm scared though that they might think he can start at 2b or SS next year. Oh, I wouldn't worry. Ozzie clearly likes play Gonzalez in the OF. he has this fixation with playing people out of their natural position. Maybe because the Toby Hall experiment turned out so well. I do worry about the starting MI being Vizquel/Eckstein and Richar next season. Actually, I don't worry about about it. I anticipate it and almost want to see it happen just to witness how bad things can get. Edited July 3, 2007 by hitlesswonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:07 PM) On what are you basing that statement? He has no velocity anymore and really doesn't have much to go with. Everytime I see him on the mound he's giving up a lot of hits. Maybe you're just watching the wrong games because out of 35 games pitched this year he's allowed multiple hits in only 8 of them. And he's still throwing 94 MPH, to say he has no velocity is ridiculous. He just doesn't have that good 98-100 MPH heat anymore which made his straight fastball a whole lot more effective. Even with his diminished ability he's still incredibly effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 This just in: Ken Williams gives Ryan Bukvich extention with a NTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, so ignore his actual performance and stats whatsoever, and consider his velocity drop and an injury that happened years ago, and THAT makes him ineffective. My memory MIGHT be misinforming me here, but put THAT blown save with another he had recently (I MIGHT be wrong, though). In any case, yeah, he gives up hits and has no velocity. Realistically, what pitches does he really have to use effectively, at least compared to before, and his past performances? I'm amazed as hell he has this many saves so far. Edited July 3, 2007 by TheBigHurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:08 PM) If he were consistently at 93-95 mph since 2005 it'd be different. But considering his past injury history and a continuous drop in velocity season to season (not to mention his second half struggles last year), I just can't assume it'll suddenly stop entering 2008. I think trading Jenks would be a good move. Not based on the fiasco tonight. Just becuase his stuff is steadily declining, the Sox won't compete in the next 3 years, and he would fetch a bunch in trade. Keeping him around serves no purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:13 PM) Maybe you're just watching the wrong games because out of 35 games pitched this year he's allowed multiple hits in only 8 of them. And he's still throwing 94 MPH, to say he has no velocity is ridiculous. He just doesn't have that good 98-100 MPH heat anymore which made his straight fastball a whole lot more effective. Even with his diminished ability he's still incredibly effective. For a comparison. K-Rod has pitched in 35 games this year as well and has allowed multiple hits in 9 of them. Also K-Rod has allowed multiple walks in 3 games this year while Jenks has only done it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29thandPoplar Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And the fact that he can't even be relied on to go 2 innings or in a tie game. Aren't you the one who wanted him to come in for a tie game earlier this year and blamed Guillen for not doing it? You are tough to follow. Yesterday you wanted the Sox to give Buehrle the no trade, today you say it doesn't matter, that you don't care and maybe they'll be a better team without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 03:13 AM) This just in: Ken Williams gives Ryan Bukvich extention with a NTC Funny about this guy. He was absolutely horrible at first when brought up and then gets better. He was so much better in fact that I believe it was just yesterday when Ozzie said Bukvich was so ggod he was now the set up man rather than McDougal. He then goes out and blows it as well as Jenks letting it go for the third or 4th time this year. I don't want to criticize Jenks so much as wonder where his control and speed went. Without the high end fast ball to set up the rest of his pitches he is bound to get smacked around at inopurtune times. Edited July 3, 2007 by elrockinMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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