WCSox Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 10:07 AM) You still can offer a player arbitration and basically put if he accepts it than you work out a one year deal with him (that goes through an arbitrator). Maddux did this a couple times. You can also accept arbitration and than sign a one year deal with the club (as to go past the arbitration process). The reason the Sox offer arb is to ensure that they get draft picks for Dye who signs elsewhere. However, you do run the risk of Dye accepting arbitration and coming back to Chicago for a year. My question is will the White Sox be timid in the FA market because they offer Dye arb (if in fact they don't deal him). God, I would love to find a way to get Kemp in some sort of package involving Dye and prospects or Dye and a reliever or Dye and a starter. God, get me Kemp as one of our 3 outfielders next year. Didn't know that. I'm assuming that most established vets don't accept arbitration offers. I don't think that JD accepts it either, especially with his skills in clear decline. No reason for him to risk having another sub-par season and losing millions on the FA market afterwards. My feeling is that he'll sign a three-year deal at about $24 million elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I don't think there is a need to extend JD's deal. He's going to try and command some market value anyway but with a bad year that he has had I don't see the need to bring him back. I hope we'll see someone like an Aaron Rowand or Torii Hunter, but I can't stand JD's defense in right field. It's not attrocious, but he's definitely slowed down and seems to be a bit out of gas. If the Sox move Contreras and a few other high priced folks, I wouldn't mind seeing some prospects step up to the plate in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(WCSox @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 10:19 AM) Didn't know that. I'm assuming that most established vets don't accept arbitration offers. I don't think that JD accepts it either, especially with his skills in clear decline. No reason for him to risk having another sub-par season and losing millions on the FA market afterwards. My feeling is that he'll sign a three-year deal at about $24 million elsewhere. I agree on the 3yr 24 deal and I think it will be with the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I think Dye gets 8-10 a year easy and likely for 3-4 years. I just don't think its here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 10:15 AM) So seasons of... Looooooooooooooooooove Measure in love... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 10:27 AM) I just don't think its here Hell, I HOPE it's not here. He was a phenominal signing three years ago, but he won't have worth half of whatever deal he accepts from here on out. We'll gladly take the draft picks, even if JD foolishly accepts arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you are watching old footage from 2001 when you say "pretty good defense". So you're saying his defense wasn't good in 2005 and 2006? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 12:40 PM) So you're saying his defense wasn't good in 2005 and 2006? It was average to slightly above average in 2005. In 2006 he decided to fill his shoes with cement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 12:52 PM) It was average to slightly above average in 2005. In 2006 he decided to fill his shoes with cement. I think even in 2006 he was an average fielder out there, with an above average arm. He always looked slower than he actually was - big loping strides. The cement didn't seem to really show up until this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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