Brian Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 HBK vs. Angle WM 21 Forget which ECW show, but the 4 way for the TV title with Jericho, Douglas, Pitbull #2, and Scorpio, I believe. Savage vs. Dynamite Kid from the 1st ever PPV. Some people will flame me, but the Last Man Standing Match with Orton vs. HHH at No Mercy was exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 He did it! He did it!! HHH actually put over a younger talent to help elevate them!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ Dec 16, 2007 -> 08:24 PM) The funny thing for me about seeing the old AWA again on the DVD doc Vince released was that it kind of killed the romance for me in a way, because the matches are SO slow and really kind of dull.....kind of like an Orton match these days.....(just wanted to set the Ortonites on fire there.... ) It was great to see the guys I watched growing up, and I still really enjoyed the Bockwinkel & Heenan promos, but the wrestling itself was a letdown for me. Yeah, during that time period the matches we're slower paced, and look at how those guys walk today. How do you think some of today's wrestlers will be in 20 years? The thing that always made the 80's great to me was the crowds. Watch any 80's show from mostly any promotion, and watch how the crowd goes ape **** for the smallest thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Wrestling back in the day was more ring psychology than risks and athleticism. There is no realism to it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 03:27 AM) He did it! He did it!! HHH actually put over a younger talent to help elevate them!!! Unforuntaly, that talent is Jeff Hardy and he will be getting a title shot. Ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 16, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) Wrestling back in the day was more ring psychology than risks and athleticism. There is no realism to it anymore. Ring psychology has its place with the new risks being taken -- it's the fine art of selling the big spots and pacing them appropriately that seems to be the problem. A giant 45 flips over the top rope corkscrew senton hits and 10 secs. later, both men are up ready to fight more. And a few questions: In Japan, if they do a Japanese arm drag or a Japanese stranglehold, do the announcers just call it a "arm drag" or a "stranglehold? Does the same go for the use of European uppercuts in European wrestling? Or a Russian leg sweep in Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Edge becomes World Heavyweight Champ of SD with the assistance of an Edge impersonator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Dec 16, 2007 -> 09:42 PM) Edge becomes World Heavyweight Champ of SD with the assistance of an Edge impersonator. What? Did they pull a Kurt/Eric Angle deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 16, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) Wrestling back in the day was more ring psychology than risks and athleticism. There is no realism to it anymore. I sorta can see that, it ties into my theory. To me the issue with crowds is they don't care about the wrestlers, outside of the top guys, and they don't have a major emotional attachment in whether or not the guys win or they lose. Someone find on youtube or the Flair DVD when Ric, Arn, and Ole, broke Dusty's ankle in like 1985, watch that angle and the crowd. Dusty came in to the cage to assist Flair from getting a 2 on 1 beatdown at the hands of the Russians. Flair and the horseman turn on Dusty and I'm telling you LITERALLY, the fans moved the guard rail to the cage itself and we're shaking the cage. Unreal heat. I think the lack of crowd energy like that goes back to just the over exposure of guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Yay for Edge being WHC again. I just never want to see him wear that hooded rated R superstar jumper he was wearing on Smackdown the other day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Just thinking about the "grateful make-out" surely upcoming between Edge and Vickie Guerrero is giving me the heebie-jeebies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 01:16 AM) Just thinking about the "grateful make-out" surely upcoming between Edge and Vickie Guerrero is giving me the heebie-jeebies. Now wouldn't it be great if Edge pulled the evil heel card and turned on Vickie after winning -- playing her feelings so he could get his title shot quicker and now that he got it, he doesn't need her any longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 05:15 AM) Now wouldn't it be great if Edge pulled the evil heel card and turned on Vickie after winning -- playing her feelings so he could get his title shot quicker and now that he got it, he doesn't need her any longer? That would indeed be great, but I'm sure that would make Edge a face (since people rightfully hate Vickie Guerrero) and keeping him with her continues to confound and upset people and keeps Edge a heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Can anyone explain the JBL interference angle to me? How was the Orton/Jericho match overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 09:43 AM) Can anyone explain the JBL interference angle to me? How was the Orton/Jericho match overall? JBL's back must be feeling well enough to allow him some (at least) part-time wrestling, so they're easing him into a feud with Y2J. The angle, as far as TV goes, began when Jericho was thrown into the SmackDown announce table and he shoved JBL away to get back to Orton. JBL took offense and big-booted him to cause the DQ. I think that will be a very entertaining feud mic-wise, but not so much in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 10:09 AM) JBL's back must be feeling well enough to allow him some (at least) part-time wrestling, so they're easing him into a feud with Y2J. The angle, as far as TV goes, began when Jericho was thrown into the SmackDown announce table and he shoved JBL away to get back to Orton. JBL took offense and big-booted him to cause the DQ. I think that will be a very entertaining feud mic-wise, but not so much in the ring. Hopefully JBL has been working out. The last time i saw JBL he looked like a beached whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 10:16 AM) Hopefully JBL has been working out. The last time i saw JBL he looked like a beached whale He looked a little thick but OK when the APA did their thing on the anniversary Raw show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 TNA script for the January 3rd episode of Impact has leaked online. The link to the .pdf file is included in this news blurb: http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007_/arti.../1197913404.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I felt the Orton/Jericho match was a pretty good match, it was just ruined by the JBL run-in in my opinion. Hopefully something decent is made of this, starting tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 More WM24 Rumors... Vinny Mac wants a Batista/HHH main event because it's safe and proven, the USA network wants Orton/Batista because it would be something fresh. Either way it's rumored that both sides want Batista on Raw and perhaps even to be the man walking away with the title after 'Mania. CM Punk v. MVP on ECW, Tuesday night...i'll actually tune in for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 QUOTE(The Critic @ Dec 18, 2007 -> 02:29 AM) That would indeed be great, but I'm sure that would make Edge a face (since people rightfully hate Vickie Guerrero) and keeping him with her continues to confound and upset people and keeps Edge a heel. I think after everything that Edge has pulled though, he's never going to be a face in this business again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 06:40 PM) I think after everything that Edge has pulled though, he's never going to be a face in this business again though. I have to disagree. In wrestling, almost nobody can't be turned - once Hulk Hogan successfully turned heel, I felt like just about anyone can flip back and forth. I think people like Edge, and his heel heat isn't the Jeff Jarrett brand of "get off my TV screen" heat. If Vince wanted to turn Edge good, I think he'd have no problem at all being a "cool face". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Emo Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 08:22 PM) Emo Vince Vince + My Chemical Romance hoodie + black eyeliner and fingernail polish = RAYTINGZ!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 What was the purpose of that crack Jericho made about Joey Styles' relevance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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