The Critic Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Dec 20, 2009 -> 04:48 AM) If Bret is indeed on the Jan 4th Raw I think that the Monday night wars might never happen.. There is NOTHING that TNA can do to rival Bret Hart on RAW and whatever kind of confrontation we could see with McMahon, HHH, or HBK.. I think that TNAs ratings might be pretty low if this is the case.. I think TNA might get a tiny spike in ratings for Hogan's first show, but it will be small and temporary. I just don't think there is enough interest in a second brand for TNA to be anything but a "minor major league". They took WWE's best wrestler (Kurt Angle) and all those other OLD familiar faces and none of them made an Impact!, so I can't see how Hollywood Hasbeen, The Whole F'n Unemployment Line, or The Nature Fossil will fare any better. They may at first just from curiosity, but what can you really do long-term with an unreliable pothead and two geriatrics? TNA is grasping at straws right now, and turning into "wCw version 2.0" doesn't seem like a successful path to me. The funny thing is, I thought TNA was finally figuring out a solid business model - hire a few "names" the casual fan might know and stock the roster with the best of the independent feds and international guys. The thing people forget about the heyday of the Monday Night Wars is that wCw had a GREAT midcard and that's what brought in the wrestling fans and kept the interest of the casual fans who tuned in for the nWo. TNA has too many ego guys and not enough camera time for all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 In a perfect world, Angle would return to Raw on 1/4...or Velvet Sky could debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 20, 2009 -> 12:54 PM) In a perfect world, Angle would return to Raw on 1/4...or Velvet Sky could debut. I don't know which would make me happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 BTW, is TNA permanently moving to Monday or is this a one week thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I believe it is a permanent move to reignite the Monday Night Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 20, 2009 -> 07:43 PM) I believe it is a permanent move to reignite the Monday Night Wars I dig the idea of having the option to go back and forth again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I read that Spike would prefer TNA on Mondays, and TNA wants to do a once-a-month Monday night special while holding their Thursday night slot. Figures TNA would suggest the dumbest possible option. Pick one or the other - either fight WWE on Mondays or stay on Thursdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 20, 2009 -> 09:09 PM) I read that Spike would prefer TNA on Mondays, and TNA wants to do a once-a-month Monday night special while holding their Thursday night slot. Figures TNA would suggest the dumbest possible option. Pick one or the other - either fight WWE on Mondays or stay on Thursdays. TNA wants to do Monday's. Spike has said if the rating is good they will move them there. If the rating is bad then Spike has said they my let TNA do Monday Night Specials anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 20, 2009 -> 07:43 PM) I believe it is a permanent move to reignite the Monday Night Wars For now it is a one week only deal. There are rumors that there is a deal in place to move them to Monday's full time but that's just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 20, 2009 -> 06:59 AM) I think TNA might get a tiny spike in ratings for Hogan's first show, but it will be small and temporary. I just don't think there is enough interest in a second brand for TNA to be anything but a "minor major league". They took WWE's best wrestler (Kurt Angle) and all those other OLD familiar faces and none of them made an Impact!, so I can't see how Hollywood Hasbeen, The Whole F'n Unemployment Line, or The Nature Fossil will fare any better. They may at first just from curiosity, but what can you really do long-term with an unreliable pothead and two geriatrics? TNA is grasping at straws right now, and turning into "wCw version 2.0" doesn't seem like a successful path to me. The funny thing is, I thought TNA was finally figuring out a solid business model - hire a few "names" the casual fan might know and stock the roster with the best of the independent feds and international guys. The thing people forget about the heyday of the Monday Night Wars is that wCw had a GREAT midcard and that's what brought in the wrestling fans and kept the interest of the casual fans who tuned in for the nWo. TNA has too many ego guys and not enough camera time for all of them. The thing people forget is that when WCW moved to Monday night they already had their own huge audience on WCW Saturday Night. They we're getting a 2.0 on that show, so when they moved to Monday's the fans came with them. The booking is the problem for TNA, they've had 7 years of crap. It's going to take a long time for them to build their own audience. Those WCW fans who just liked Crockett and old school wrasslin are gone. Vince has gotten everyone to accept what wrestling should be and how it should look from a production standpoint, now TNA has to cultivate their own fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I find it uncomfortable to watch Johnny Damon host RAW. I am embarrassed for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 21, 2009 -> 09:40 PM) I find it uncomfortable to watch Johnny Damon host RAW. I am embarrassed for him From what I watched, he was horrible on the mic. Hell, the whole show has been awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 RAW tonight basicailly typified how much WWE and Wrestling in general has gone downhill from a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Dec 21, 2009 -> 11:53 PM) From what I watched, he was horrible on the mic. Hell, the whole show has been awful. He was reading off cards for the vids and it was really obvious and bad. Not WWE RAW hosting material for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 12:46 AM) RAW tonight basically typified how much WWE and Wrestling in general has gone downhill from a decade ago. Agree. That Little People's Court bit was embarrassingly bad. Hornswoggle in general is done. Not funny at all in any scenario. For me, Santino is the only sure thing as far as bringing the funny, unless they stick him with Hornswoggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Santino is money. Every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 You think Damon was bad? Wait til Timbaland next week. "I'm RICKY BOBBY!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 09:24 AM) Santino is money. Every time. It pains me to say this, but Santino hasn't been money in quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) It pains me to say this, but Santino hasn't been money in quite some time. I love every time Santino gets on the mic. He was the only redeemable moment of the Slammys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 One more straw is grasped: source: www.pwtorch.com According to multiple sources within TNA, Scott Hall is expected to appear on the live episode of iMPACT! opposite Raw on January 4, 2010. Hall is expected to reform an Outsiders/nWo reunion with Kevin Nash and Sean Waltman, but without the WCW labels due to World Wrestling Entertainment owning the trademarks. Some within the company are assuming that Hulk Hogan will also be part of the nWo reunion. Hall last appeared in TNA two years ago, briefly feuding with The Angle Alliance (Kurt Angle, AJ Styles and Tomko). Hall was scheduled to partner with Nash and Samoa at the December 2007 pay-per-view, Turning Point, but Hall no-showed the event. During the live show, Joe cut a heated promo on Hall while Nash stood in the background. The incident went on to be the backstory for the lengthy feud between Nash and Joe. Despite Hall’s poor track record with the company, recent reports regarding his behavior at independent shows have been positive. In a recent Twitter post, Nash vouched for Hall with the following: “Talked to Scott on Monday (December 7) and he sounded great!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 What, we are gonna be surprised that Hogan goes back to the well that made him a lot of money without Vince? As soon as Hogan signed I knew the NWO was coming. I wonder what lame acryonym they come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 24, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) What, we are gonna be surprised that Hogan goes back to the well that made him a lot of money without Vince? As soon as Hogan signed I knew the NWO was coming. I wonder what lame acryonym they come up with Don't get me wrong, I'm not surprised in the least. I just think it's a desperate move that is destined to fail. It's funny how TNA washes their hands of Hall, and then takes Nash's word that Hall "SOUNDS GREAT!!" I'm sure I'll flip back and forth like most people on the 4th, but the AARPWO is not what I'll stay tuned for. Oh, I saw a great nickname for Hogan on another board - Hindenburg Hogan! I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Will a younger audience remember The Outsiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 24, 2009 -> 10:15 AM) Will a younger audience remember The Outsiders? Since they probably only know Hogan as Brooke's Dad, I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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