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QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 8, 2009 -> 08:55 PM)
There better not be a sequel. Alan Moore will have them burned alive if they try.

 

 

BTW, lovin' that Silk Spectre II.

 

Alan has already disavowed himself of everything Hollywood does with his creations, so he'd probably see a sequel to any of them as just more confirmation that Hollywood studios don't give a damn about intellectual property.

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V for Vendetta was okay (maybe because I can watch anything Natalie Portman's in), but League of Extraordinary Gentleman was borderline horrible and certainly a disappointment both critically and with the box office as well.

 

Unrealistically, Watchmen was hyped as a contender to 300's records and beyond in the media. 300 was the previous picture from Watchmen's director Zack Snyder and was prominently cited in Watchmen's advertising. However, just because a picture has a massive marketing campaign or a fervent fan base doesn't mean it's going to be a blockbuster. 300 set the March opening benchmark at $70.9 million on around 4,800 screens at 3,103 sites (which included $3.6 million at 62 IMAX venues). While technically 300 was a comic book adaptation like Watchmen, that's where the similarities ended, because 300 was first and foremost promoted as a harrowing, clearly-wrought tale based in history with a then-striking visual style.

 

As visually punchy as Watchmen's marketing tried to be, the movie's story was left obscure to the uninitiated. Considering that style and mystery took precedence over clarity and relatability, Watchmen's opening was swell. Eventually, ads vaguely revealed that someone was killing off superheroes and that the Watchmen had to figure out why. However, the superheroes in question were not previously well known to the general public, making it an uphill battle to earn audience investment, especially given the picture's ensemble nature. Typically, the biggest superhero movies are the ones where the superheroes are already ingrained in the culture, like The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, Superman and X-Men. Watchmen's source material had a following but never reached a high level of cultural saturation. What's more, the advertising presented no heroes to root for and no villains to root against (a potent combination that worked like gangbusters with The Dark Knight); instead raising the question "will they save us or destroy us?"

 

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This is the next movie I have to see:

 

http://www.anvilthestoryofanvil.com/

 

"At 14, Toronto school friends Steve "Lips" Kudlow and Robb Reiner made a pact to rock together forever. Their band, Anvil, went on to become the "demigods of Canadian metal," releasing one of the heaviest albums in metal history, 1982's Metal on Metal. The album influenced a musical generation, including Metallica, Slayer, and Anthrax, that went on to sell millions of records. But Anvil's career took a different path - straight to obscurity."

 

Opens at the Music Box Theatre ( :headbang ) on April 24th, and I will be there!

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QUOTE (The Critic @ Mar 9, 2009 -> 12:11 PM)
This is the next movie I have to see:

 

http://www.anvilthestoryofanvil.com/

 

"At 14, Toronto school friends Steve "Lips" Kudlow and Robb Reiner made a pact to rock together forever. Their band, Anvil, went on to become the "demigods of Canadian metal," releasing one of the heaviest albums in metal history, 1982's Metal on Metal. The album influenced a musical generation, including Metallica, Slayer, and Anthrax, that went on to sell millions of records. But Anvil's career took a different path - straight to obscurity."

 

Opens at the Music Box Theatre ( :headbang ) on April 24th, and I will be there!

 

Music Box was my favorite old Chicago movie house.

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Watchmen thoughts:

 

I personally cannot wait to see Watchmen again. I actually found The Comedian quite likeable because he was so different from anything you’ve ever seen in a hero. Sure, he got too drunk and made a really bad choice amongst others, but what the heck, he’s an as*-kicker with a cigar laughing as he burns Viet-Kong… and even though Grey’s isn’t very good, I did always like the actor.

 

Of course, as with something of this scope and of the content we’re dealing with, there are holes. SSII is so concerned about Manhattan not giving her any attention (when he’s honestly trying to save the world and creating multiple versions of himself to rock her world!), yet when he grows tired of trying to help a group of beings he feels disconnected from, well, he better save them! She was such a terrible actress, it’s too bad they couldn’t find a decent one who was willing to bare all, which I guess was a pre-requisite to casting.

 

Rorschach sees things in black and white. That’s his entire character. Hence, he wanted justice at the end for what had been done, regardless of the outcome. Much like how Dr. Manhattan kills people, its one or the other. You either blow up guts everywhere or you don’t get killed. Ha. Personally I don’t see why the Russians would be so quick to forgive and forget to unite against Dr. Manhattan, when we (and by we I mean America… f*** yeah) had used Dr. Manhattan for our own good and benefit in Vietnam and to rectify other situations involving the US. I would see the Russians blaming us more than helping us. Then again, they are silly Russians soaked in Vodka and Socialism.

 

Normally movies with holes really bother me, but I guess this entire story was so preposterous (glowing blue man shakes JFK’s hand within first 6 minutes) that I totally suspended all disbelief and watched wide-eyed (only squinting when waiting for the sapphire phallus to leave the screen) and just enjoyed it for what is was… I think that’s how you have to watch it.

 

It is interesting that the director would follow the book frame for frame, replicating everything, and then change the ending (which I guess makes the appearance of the weird cat with furry horns pointless) I’m sure I would have bought it, but I’m glad I’ll be reading the story second instead of vice versa.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 09:16 PM)
Anyone see The Visitor? Wondering if there are any scenes with subtitles. Going on another trip for work and don't want to make the mistake of adding a heavily subtitled movie to my Zune again. Made following Miracle at St Anna very difficult.

 

Great movie. No subtitles that I can remember. I might be very late in this response, so sorry.

 

Watchmen was great. I really enjoyed every bit of it. One thing that crossed my mind, though. Were Night (or Nite, not sure) Owl II and Dr. Manhattan supposed to be similar to Batman and Superman? I thought they seemed alike. Night Owl's quick back story seemed to resemble that of Batman, having a rich dad, the bat cave thing, etc. I thought that might have been a reason why they didn't go deep into his past, and sort of just had the character explain it himself. Dr. Manhattan reminded me of Superman just because he was "so much better" than every other superhero.

 

"I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me"

-Instantly one of my favorite movie quotes of all time.

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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 12:24 PM)
"I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me"

-Instantly one of my favorite movie quotes of all time.

 

Jackie Earle Haley was a great cast as Rorschach. Who would have thought that the cute kid from Bad News Bears would grow up to look so insane and disturbed.

 

maybe the reverse can also be true.... keep the faith jason gage... keep the faith.

 

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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 12:38 PM)
Can someone who's read the book tell me how it ended differently than that movie? I won't be reading it.

I'll let you know when I see the film. But that'll be in a couple weeks with some friends coming to town. We plan to go to Imax.

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Can someone who's read the book tell me how it ended differently than that movie? I won't be reading it.

Basically instead of the energy wave bombs or whatever, a giant squid is dropped in NYC and Ozmawhatever tricks the Earth into believing they were being invaded by Aliens and getting them to unite. Richard Nixon then says only someone like Dr. Manhattan could be blamed for this happening.

 

That's according to my Dad and wikipedia, and the movie actually seems to have a better ending. I didn't know in the book Nixon blamed Manhattan, so I was wrong about Snyder "butchering" the ending.

 

Also, the comic ends with Manhattan saying "Nothing ever ends," but in the movie Silk Specrte says it, and I didn't like the dropping off of the book to the Newspaper.

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Great movie. No subtitles that I can remember. I might be very late in this response, so sorry.

 

Watchmen was great. I really enjoyed every bit of it. One thing that crossed my mind, though. Were Night (or Nite, not sure) Owl II and Dr. Manhattan supposed to be similar to Batman and Superman? I thought they seemed alike. Night Owl's quick back story seemed to resemble that of Batman, having a rich dad, the bat cave thing, etc. I thought that might have been a reason why they didn't go deep into his past, and sort of just had the character explain it himself. Dr. Manhattan reminded me of Superman just because he was "so much better" than every other superhero.

 

"I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me"

-Instantly one of my favorite movie quotes of all time.

Since DC created the characters in Watchmen, I'm guessing it was. During the long intro scene you can see some Batman posters on the wall, and when the crowd is rioting you can see someone hanging and lighting fire to a Superman dummy.

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QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 05:55 PM)

Basically instead of the energy wave bombs or whatever, a giant squid is dropped in NYC and Ozmawhatever tricks the Earth into believing they were being invaded by Aliens and getting them to unite. Richard Nixon then says only someone like Dr. Manhattan could be blamed for this happening.

 

That's according to my Dad and wikipedia, and the movie actually seems to have a better ending. I didn't know in the book Nixon blamed Manhattan, so I was wrong about Snyder "butchering" the ending.

 

Also, the comic ends with Manhattan saying "Nothing ever ends," but in the movie Silk Specrte says it, and I didn't like the dropping off of the book to the Newspaper.

 

From what you say, the movie sounds better to me. I have to look up more information, though.

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QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 05:38 PM)
Not sure if this has been posted before but Mickey Rourke has signed on to play the next villain for Ironman 2 ...milkman breathe,just breathe!

 

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.eonline.com/103998-

 

Old news! I am going to look forward to it because I think Iron Man was a great movie, but it's not like I have a man-crush on Rourke. I just felt that his performance was the best this year. Now if they announced that Tom Wilkinson was to have a big role in it, I'd mark out.

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QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 05:57 PM)
Since DC created the characters in Watchmen, I'm guessing it was. During the long intro scene you can see some Batman posters on the wall, and when the crowd is rioting you can see someone hanging and lighting fire to a Superman dummy.

 

So, you're saying I'm a genius?

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