fathom Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 (edited) Nothing like seeing highlights of the Cubs game on captions, and all you see is how it says "close call showed the Cubs got a huge break". I did happen to see the announcers say that if the Cubs won the World Series, it would be one of the three biggest moments in sports history. Edited August 4, 2007 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 06:48 PM) Nothing like seeing highlights of the Cubs game on captions, and all you see is how it says "close call showed the Cubs got a huge break". I did happen to see the announcers say that if the Cubs won the World Series, it would be one of the three biggest moments in sports history. Cubs win! Red Sox win! and what the f*** would be the other one? Probably something with Tiger Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briguy27 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 (edited) When I go to the Twins and Mariners game @ Safeco Field on August 13, I'm going to see quite the pitchers' duel- Cy Santana and King Felix. Just thought I'd throw that out that I bought the tickets back in early June, and it comes out they I will see 1 great pitcher, and 1 that could win multiple Cy Young's in 3-5 years. Edited August 5, 2007 by briguy27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Aaron Rowand hates some of you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 06:07 PM) Zito came out of the bullpen today, pitching one inning...... Prolly just extra work. Dear Cubs, Beat the Mets. I'd like to see Glavine get antsy, and I want to see the Mets lose more, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 AKA it will benefit the Braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) Absolutely. Phillies too. Edited August 6, 2007 by Gregory Pratt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 BMac's era is now better than Danks'. Brandon has really gotten his s*** together, starting to pitch the way that a lot of us thought he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) BMac's era is now better than Danks'. Brandon has really gotten his s*** together, starting to pitch the way that a lot of us thought he would. still worse than Vazquez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 12:11 AM) still worse than Vazquez Ya, I think I lost that battle. Couldn't be happier to be wrong. Edited August 6, 2007 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) BMac's era is now better than Danks'. Brandon has really gotten his s*** together, starting to pitch the way that a lot of us thought he would. /buys Rangers BMac jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/08/06/...llectible-ever/ Padres left-hander David Wells is a baseball collector of sorts and one of his prize possessions just grew a lot more valuable. Wells has an old, grainy, yellowing baseball that he purchased for $7,000 with a Babe Ruth signature scrawled across the sweet spot. Since the purchase, he had Hank Aaron sign the ball during a Padres trip to Atlanta, and on Sunday, he added the name of Barry Bonds in the left fielder's unmistakable script. That may give Wells the only ball that has the signatures of the top three all-time Major League home run hitters on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 He needs to get ARod's sig on that ASAP before he leaves baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hasn't Wells had nasty things to say about Bonds, or am I mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 03:45 PM) Hasn't Wells had nasty things to say about Bonds, or am I mistaken? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12902314/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Yeah. Well, collecting's nice. I've always liked Wells. He's a HOFer in my book. Not first ballot, but fifteenth or so. Veteran's committee, definite, and he'll eventually get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 03:47 PM) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12902314/ He backtracked. http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/04/12/...ed-barry-bonds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) He's a HOFer in my book. ... If Wells gets into the Hall, they better change the name to "Hall of Pretty Good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 03:20 PM) ... If Wells gets into the Hall, they better change the name to "Hall of Pretty Good". There are plenty of guys like him in the Hall. Jamie Moyer is a guy I'd put in there after a couple of decades, too. Don't know if you've ever gone through the Hall and its members, but it isn't just the Sandy Koufaxs and the Babe Ruths of the baseball world in there. There are guys in there who are "very good" but not "ALL TIME GREATEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" players, and they should be in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) 235 wins over 21 seasons with a career ERA over 4 and a mediocre ERA+ of 108? I have to disagree. Has he been a great 3ish starter his entire career? Hell yeah. Hall of Fame worthy? Not in my book. And Moyer has even less of a case. In fact, I do not believe a pitcher with an ERA north of 4 has even been inducted. Edited August 7, 2007 by WHarris1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 07:29 PM) 235 wins over 21 seasons with a career ERA over 4 and a mediocre ERA+ of 108? I have to disagree. Has he been a great 3ish starter his entire career? Hell yeah. Hall of Fame worthy? Not in my book. And Moyer has even less of a case. In fact, I do not believe a pitcher with an ERA north of 4 has even been inducted. Correct. Only 7 pitchers have been inducted with an era higher than 3 and a half, and zero with an era over 4. Wells was a good pitcher but Hall of Famer he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 BJ Upton is quite insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 06:40 PM) Correct. Only 7 pitchers have been inducted with an era higher than 3 and a half, and zero with an era over 4. Wells was a good pitcher but Hall of Famer he is not. Who are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 09:39 PM) Who are they? Dennis Eckersley Burleigh Grimes Jesse Haines Waite Hoyt Ted Lyons Herb Pennock Early Wynn None are over 3.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 7, 2007 -> 12:22 AM) Don't know if you've ever gone through the Hall and its members, but it isn't just the Sandy Koufaxs and the Babe Ruths of the baseball world in there. You don't know if I've ever gone through the Hall and its members? David Wells has a career ERA+ of 108. That's doesn't even qualify as "very good". He doesn't have a very good peak. Put him side-by-side with another great pitcher of his time, Greg Maddux. Maddux has nine seasons better than Wells' best season (1995 -- 200+ innings of a 141 ERA+). On David Wells' Most Similar Players' list, not even half are (or will be) Hall of Famers. Wells doesn't get in on either of Bill James' HoF Monitor or HoF Standards. Need I keep going? Wells isn't a Hall of Famer. I appreciate the huge laugh you just gave me, though, by saying that Jamie Moyer is a Hall of Famer. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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