claydude14 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What a f***ing game, even with the tainted ending. Phils/Rocks is gonna be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) Crappy call at the end. I feel sorry for Padre fans, but that was a call the ump had to make considering where he was and what it looked like. Great game though, I enjoyed it QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:18 PM) That was clear to me live, that he didn't touch home, piece of crap umpire probably just wanted to go home. And you know he knew it, with that hesitation. Too bad they had to ruin a good game like that Why stop there? Why not make some more baseless accusations about the umpire having money on the game, or really being a Rockies fan deep down and bleeding purple? Or maybe his cousins nephews brothers sisters ex-boyfriend is Matt Holliday and he really liked him when he met him 5 years ago? Edited October 2, 2007 by Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 05:22 AM) Crappy call at the end. I feel sorry for Padre fans, but that was a call the ump had to make considering where he was and what it looked like. Great game though, I enjoyed it Was an awesome game but you could tell the ump knew Barret manged to block him. However, he got scared when he saw Holiday was in no hurry to get back to the plate, so he called him safe. Not sure that was the call he had to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:11 PM) Hoffman blew the Saturday game and now this. He's blown some games in big spotlights lately if you want to count the All Star game. Hoffman was done 2 years ago. I'm surprised he doesn't get ripped every time he takes the hill. Good Lord...he really has nothing. Great game to watch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) I can easily see how in live speed it would appear he got his hand in there using the 3rd base line extended position. He was right on top of it, and should have gotten it right, but he appeared to be looking back over his left shoulder and flat out blew the call and the Padres chances. I don't care for either team, but I hope the Phillies whoop up on the Rockies after that...I'd hate to see the Rockies go far due to a blown call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) Was an awesome game but you could tell the ump knew Barret manged to block him. However, he got scared when he saw Holiday was in no hurry to get back to the plate, so he called him safe. Not sure that was the call he had to make. He was on the other side of the action, and Barrett's foot was blocking what he could see of that part of the plate, so he couldn't really see where Barrett's foot was (whether it was blocking the plate, in the middle of the plate, etc.). Given the quickness of the play, and just the situation in general, I'd probably have made the same call. But being here at home, it's easy to make the call that the ump was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(SouthsideNorthsideFan @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) He was right on top of it, and should have gotten it right, but he appeared to be looking back over his left shoulder and flat out blew the call and the Padres chances. I don't care for either team, but I hope the Phillies whoop up on the Rockies after that...I'd hate to see the Rockies go far due to a blown call. I'd love to see you in that exact same position. Try it some day, let alone at that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:26 PM) He was on the other side of the action, and Barrett's foot was blocking what he could see of that part of the plate, so he couldn't really see where Barrett's foot was (whether it was blocking the plate, in the middle of the plate, etc.). Given the quickness of the play, and just the situation in general, I'd probably have made the same call. But being here at home, it's easy to make the call that the ump was wrong. Well...he missed a lot of strikes too...so not a shocker really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Wanne @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:27 PM) Well...he missed a lot of strikes too...so not a shocker really. I can't disagree. I didn't like the umpiring crew in general, but I can't fault him for that final call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:29 PM) I can't disagree. I didn't like the umpiring crew in general, but I can't fault him for that final call. At least someone gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 05:29 AM) I can't disagree. I didn't like the umpiring crew in general, but I can't fault him for that final call. I'll agree with that. Last call could have gone either way though, obviously. I probably would have made the same call as he did. Oh, and did I just hear right that Frank Thomas is doing some booth work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 No disrespect to felix and krush, but if that crap had happened to the Sox, I doubt you would be as understanding. It was a blown call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Looking at the replay (again), Barrett's foot slides all along the side of home plate after the slide, and ends up behind the plate at the end of the play. Just based off of that, if I were in the situation of the ump, I'd assume that Holliday's hand/arm pushed Barrett's foot back that far, meaning it crossed the plate. Again, I'd make the same call as the ump in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:27 PM) I'd love to see you in that exact same position. Try it some day, let alone at that speed. Done it. He was out of position and blew the call. Quit defending the call already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:33 PM) Looking at the replay (again), Barrett's foot slides all along the side of home plate after the slide, and ends up behind the plate at the end of the play. Just based off of that, if I were in the situation of the ump, I'd assume that Holliday's hand/arm pushed Barrett's foot back that far, meaning it crossed the plate. Again, I'd make the same call as the ump in this situation. Answer this: Why did he wait till Barrett tagged him to call him safe? You can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:32 PM) Oh, and did I just hear right that Frank Thomas is doing some booth work? Yes. QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:32 PM) No disrespect to felix and krush, but if that crap had happened to the Sox, I doubt you would be as understanding. It was a blown call. Thats why looking at something objectively is much more beneficial. I'd be pissed to hell if that happened to the Sox, because I'd be tied up in my emotions. In this situation, since I don't care about either team and am just watching baseball, I think I can look at it in a more objective, fairer way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:32 PM) No disrespect to felix and krush, but if that crap had happened to the Sox, I doubt you would be as understanding. It was a blown call. Incorrect. QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:33 PM) Looking at the replay (again), Barrett's foot slides all along the side of home plate after the slide, and ends up behind the plate at the end of the play. Just based off of that, if I were in the situation of the ump, I'd assume that Holliday's hand/arm pushed Barrett's foot back that far, meaning it crossed the plate. Again, I'd make the same call as the ump in this situation. Exactly my reasoning, and his I'd presume. QUOTE(SouthsideNorthsideFan @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:33 PM) Done it. He was out of position and blew the call. Quit defending the call already. Did you ump some tball game before? And he wasn't out of position. Shows what you know about umpiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 it's like the AJ dropped 3rd strike, even in slow motion replay, you can't really tell what happens. hell of a game anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:32 PM) No disrespect to felix and krush, but if that crap had happened to the Sox, I doubt you would be as understanding. It was a blown call. I'd be understanding, I'd just be pissed as hell the Sox were put into such a situation by the pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:36 PM) Shows what you know about umpiring. What it shows is you wanted the Rockies to win so you're defending a blown call. It's obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(SouthsideNorthsideFan @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:34 PM) Answer this: Why did he wait till Barrett tagged him to call him safe? You can't. He waited on calling everything all night (from what I saw), it got frustrating, but it was par for the course. He probably waited to make sure that the ball got loose, and all of those sorts of things. I'm not an umpire, and I wasn't there in person. I'm just saying that the call is what I would have made if I were there and in the same place. QUOTE(PlunketChris @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:37 PM) it's like the AJ dropped 3rd strike, even in slow motion replay, you can't really tell what happens. hell of a game anyway. I'll disagree there. I'm pretty sure that he never touched home plate. Edited October 2, 2007 by Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(PlunketChris @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:37 PM) it's like the AJ dropped 3rd strike, even in slow motion replay, you can't really tell what happens. hell of a game anyway. Sorry, this wasn't close compared to that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(SouthsideNorthsideFan @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:38 PM) What it shows is you wanted the Rockies to win so you're defending a blown call. It's obvious. This isn't Jorge Orta in '85 dude, that's a bang bang play, and I don't know if you can call it a blown call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(SouthsideNorthsideFan @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:38 PM) What it shows is you wanted the Rockies to win so you're defending a blown call. It's obvious. If you asked me who I wanted to win this game prior to all this crap, I'd have said the Padres. Group 4 baby! Really though, I was just looking to watch some good baseball, and thats what I got. So bad call or not, I got what I was looking for. Edited October 2, 2007 by Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 11:27 PM) I'd love to see you in that exact same position. Try it some day, let alone at that speed. You must umpire. I did for a couple years. Playing was so much less stressful. Not even close. I had the great fortune of getting plunked with bases loaded and one down in the final inning of a playoff game. I truly think I might have been too scared to actually swing. I know I let the ball hit me. That was easy compared to umpiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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