sox4lifeinPA Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Aug 18, 2007 -> 01:07 PM) yeah I should sue Vanna White, the Hubble Telescope, and the Statue of Liberty strictly because France gave it to us. btw, where's Gregory Pratt when you need him to complain about wasting tax payer dollars??!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Aug 18, 2007 -> 10:39 AM) s***, I gots beef's with half the people on this list, too. dag, son, I need to sue. DEFENDANT: Sox4lifeinPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 17, 2007 -> 06:00 AM) I heard that also. I don't know if he will be, but I hope he will be. That would be so great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I saw on Real Sports today that when they want to train a new dog how to kill they go into neighborhoods and steal peoples dogs and either injure them so they cant fight back or duct tape their mouths shut and let the pitbulls kill them. These people truly are pieces of s*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Aug 18, 2007 -> 12:14 PM) btw, where's Gregory Pratt when you need him to complain about wasting tax payer dollars??!?! Living life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Shouldnt something be announced today about Vicks intentions? I swear I read somewhere that today was the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Aug 17, 2007 -> 07:28 PM) The problem for Vick may be, accepting any sort of plea bargain may result in the end of his NFL career. So eventhough the risk will vastly incrase, a trial may be the best option because; a) the Falcons will have to pay him for the duration of the trial (potentially if he accepts a plea and goes to jail they could void teh contract) so if the trial drags a few years (think R Kelly) he may get the full value of his contract and at that point whatever happens happens, B) eventhough things may look grim trials are not exactly a sure thing for the govt in high profile cases, if anything the govt has generally not done so well in high profile cases (vicks money really evens the playing field usually prosecution has basically unlimited resources and that drainst eh average defendant, vick can fight for years with the best money can buy). Whenever a govt case rests on "flipper" witnesses, it is inherently weak. The witnesses who saw vick commit the crimes are not going to be the type of people that you would generally believe. Vicks defense team will attack them and the fact that they are testifying to save their own ass, so it will play off to the jury that the only reason vick is being implicated is because by fingering him the witnesses are themselves getting out of their own crime, which is a very powerful incentive to perhaps exaggerate Vick's involvement. because if there was no Mike Vick in this case, there is no way in hell the govt is cutting deals with the other defendants. I can definitely see vick being able to beat a guilty rap, especially because his lawyers should be amazing at picking jurors and all it will take is one to just not want to convict. And I think that vick is most likely guilty, but at the trial it might go differently. I believe the "flippers" receieved no benefit to testifying and there was no leniancy given to them although I could be wrong. It seems the case is pretty concrete. It is possible that the Vick defense is hoping for an O.J. Simpson ruling. Also the State of Virginia is seeking to bring suit for the killing of 8 dogs. The prison term on this related to the cruelty of animals is 5 years PER dog. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 07:04 AM) Shouldnt something be announced today about Vicks intentions? I swear I read somewhere that today was the day The grand jury is reconvening today to consider additional charges, i.e. RICO violations, against Mr. Vick. He absolutely needs to take a plea deal before the Grand Jury returns additional indictments against him, otherwise he'll spend the next 20 years of his life in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) CNN.com has a story that the feds offer is 18-36 months, he's trying to get it to less than a year http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/20/vick/index.html edit is the link Edited August 20, 2007 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) Huh? There is no such thing as a plea deal where the defendant is not given leniency. Otherwise what would be the point of the plea? http://www.boston.com/sports/articles/2007...ck_funded_ring/ The plea deal requires Taylor to testify against Vick and his two remaining codefendants if called upon to do so. Taylor cannot get a stiffer sentence or face any new charges based on any new information he provides, according to terms of the agreement. Additional charges are possible, however, against Vick and the other two. Federal prosecutors have said a superseding indictment will be issued in August. And isnt it true Mr. Taylor that in return for your testimony against Mr Vick today that you would not be charged with any subsequent crimes? That you would not be charged personally for the murder of any of the dogs? That you will be facing a maximum penalty of 5 years versus in excess of 20? (Last one would be objected to but the point would remain) These guys are getting sweetheart deals, because I dont really see them as any more innocent or guilty than Vick, the difference is no one cares about Mr Taylor, but Mr Vick is a big fish. I generally dont care about witness flipping if it is in a case to get a larger more dangerous target, but I really dont think that the streets are any better if Vick is convicted versus the other 3, its not like he is the head of the Chicago Outfit. And OJ Simpson style verdict is much more common than you think, almost every judge has a bunch of stories where the defendants were guilty as sin but for one reason or another the jury was unwilling to convict. Edited August 20, 2007 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Michael Vick to plead guilty., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) According to ESPN Vick has reached a plea agreement with the feds. Damn you Balta! lol Edited August 20, 2007 by Sonik22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Enjoy the rear end widening in the clink, #7. Good riddance too, hopefully he never plays in the NFL again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) I heard Michael Vick is going to play Football in prison, he will come in a tight end and come out a wide receiver. Edited August 20, 2007 by rangercal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 07:12 PM) I heard Michael Vick is going to play Football in prison, he will come in a tight end and come out a wide receiver. *rimshot* Now where did you hear that, because you're not smart enough to come up with that on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) *rimshot* Now where did you hear that, because you're not smart enough to come up with that on your own. haha, actually I heard it a long time ago. I just replaced OJ Simpson with Michael Vick. It's like a new joke every 14 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 01:48 PM) Enjoy the rear end widening in the clink, #7. Good riddance too, hopefully he never plays in the NFL again. Vick is pretty freaking big, not sure who is going to hold him down...It's not like he's going to a maximum security place where the guys that could take him would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The third longest yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 This Ray Buchanan interview is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 03:46 PM) This Ray Buchanan interview is insane. I heard the very end of it. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 04:47 PM) I heard the very end of it. What did he say? A lot of it was about Vick basically being innocent, and all of this is really being done to make an example out of him. It was pretty ridiculous, and he had some crazy lines about feeling bad for Vick because he has to go from eating filet mignon everyday to bologna sandwiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) A lot of it was about Vick basically being innocent, and all of this is really being done to make an example out of him. It was pretty ridiculous, and he had some crazy lines about feeling bad for Vick because he has to go from eating filet mignon everyday to bologna sandwiches. I like bologna sandwiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 01:54 PM) I like bologna sandwiches. I do a fairly mean bologna/grilled cheese combo sometimes that I enjoy thoroughly. Man, I could go for one of them right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 04:55 PM) I do a fairly mean bologna/grilled cheese combo sometimes that I enjoy thoroughly. Man, I could go for one of them right now. Regular bologna, chicken bologna, beef bologna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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