shipps Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) Meanwhile, back in the NFL...Wade Phillips is seemingly going to be looking over his shoulder at his OC for the next year, if he even is retained at all. Garrett is staying in Dallas, turning down the Falcons and the Ravens. IMO, this will only serve to make both of the teams he has spurned better in the long run. Wow,no one wants that Atlanta job.I know there has been alot of negativity coming out of there the past year or so but I dont think it is that bad of a job.All the bad revolved around Vick and the coach quiting on the team and that is over now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(shipps @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 09:56 AM) Wow,no one wants that Atlanta job.I know there has been alot of negativity coming out of there the past year or so but I dont think it is that bad of a job.All the bad revolved around Vick and the coach quiting on the team and that is over now. If I was Garrett, I wouldn't want that job either...because I'd be expected to do something I can't do in that position...be the magical super coach who turns that organization totally around next year. Atlanta needs to grab someone from a good program with some skill at coaching, someone who isn't just the hot coach of the month, someone who won't bail on them if things go poorly for 2 years, and just commit to completely rebuild around him. Set up a system with a quality GM and coach combination, tell the coach he's going to be there for at least 4 years no matter how much he loses, and tell that pair of people that it's their job to rebuild that organization from the bottom up. Find a QB that fits, clear some of their bad contracts, trade a few people for draft picks if anyone is movable, and just expect to lose for 2-3 years. Jason Garrett would be horrible in that role, because if you hire Jason Garrett, you're hiring the guy who you expect to be your quick fix. There is no quick fix in Atlanta. They have to commit to losing for a few years while they rebuild, and there's no other way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 12:04 PM) If I was Garrett, I wouldn't want that job either...because I'd be expected to do something I can't do in that position...be the magical super coach who turns that organization totally around next year. Atlanta needs to grab someone from a good program with some skill at coaching, someone who isn't just the hot coach of the month, someone who won't bail on them if things go poorly for 2 years, and just commit to completely rebuild around him. Set up a system with a quality GM and coach combination, tell the coach he's going to be there for at least 4 years no matter how much he loses, and tell that pair of people that it's their job to rebuild that organization from the bottom up. Find a QB that fits, clear some of their bad contracts, trade a few people for draft picks if anyone is movable, and just expect to lose for 2-3 years. Jason Garrett would be horrible in that role, because if you hire Jason Garrett, you're hiring the guy who you expect to be your quick fix. There is no quick fix in Atlanta. They have to commit to losing for a few years while they rebuild, and there's no other way around it. Ya,I looked at their current roster just to confirm that it will probably be a few years until they can win.There isnt any real talent there so it will be a few years.Even considering alot teams now a days can go from worst to first.Garrett made the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 12:04 PM) If I was Garrett, I wouldn't want that job either...because I'd be expected to do something I can't do in that position...be the magical super coach who turns that organization totally around next year. Atlanta needs to grab someone from a good program with some skill at coaching, someone who isn't just the hot coach of the month, someone who won't bail on them if things go poorly for 2 years, and just commit to completely rebuild around him. Set up a system with a quality GM and coach combination, tell the coach he's going to be there for at least 4 years no matter how much he loses, and tell that pair of people that it's their job to rebuild that organization from the bottom up. Find a QB that fits, clear some of their bad contracts, trade a few people for draft picks if anyone is movable, and just expect to lose for 2-3 years. Jason Garrett would be horrible in that role, because if you hire Jason Garrett, you're hiring the guy who you expect to be your quick fix. There is no quick fix in Atlanta. They have to commit to losing for a few years while they rebuild, and there's no other way around it. Someone like Jim Mora Jr.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) Someone like Jim Mora Jr.? In a vacuum...yes, he would have been the ideal kind of guy to bring in for this exact situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Very happy on Garrett. I think Phillips is probably gone at the end of his 3 year deal unless he wins a superbowl. In Jason's mind, it was probably too early for him to become a head coach. He's only been an offensive co-ordinator for 1 season, and Dallas is pretty much his dream job. Even though it's probably illegal, Jerry Jones has probably told him the job will be his in a couple of seasons. And both jobs weren't really that appealing. Atlanta has argubly the worst collection of talent in the NFL. That will be a long rebuild. The Ravens have an aging defense, and an offense in a flux, with Boller / McGahee etc., and Ogden likely to retire. They're not very happy in B-More about this, but really it isn't a top notch job as they're claiming it to be, just because they went 13-3 a season ago. Things have changed a bit since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A's fan Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 02:08 PM) Very happy on Garrett. I think Phillips is probably gone at the end of his 3 year deal unless he wins a superbowl. In Jason's mind, it was probably too early for him to become a head coach. He's only been an offensive co-ordinator for 1 season, and Dallas is pretty much his dream job. Even though it's probably illegal, Jerry Jones has probably told him the job will be his in a couple of seasons. And both jobs weren't really that appealing. Atlanta has argubly the worst collection of talent in the NFL. That will be a long rebuild. The Ravens have an aging defense, and an offense in a flux, with Boller / McGahee etc., and Ogden likely to retire. They're not very happy in B-More about this, but really it isn't a top notch job as they're claiming it to be, just because they went 13-3 a season ago. Things have changed a bit since then. I agree with the fact Garett will be the guy soon maybe after next season however I dont think B-moore is that bad of a job except the QB situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE(A's fan @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 07:09 PM) I agree with the fact Garett will be the guy soon maybe after next season however I dont think B-moore is that bad of a job except the QB situation. The problem in B-More is that they're a team that is getting old but who's owner thinks seemingly that they'll be ready to compete again next year, just like last year, if they just find the right coach. If the owner isn't willing to face up to the situation and admit that his roster is getting old and you can't simply plug holes, then whoever you put in there is going to be caught in a trap; they're expected to win right now, to be the miracle coach who fixes everything, and they'll get blamed if the pieces don't all fall into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Former linemen Dana Stubblefield just went down in the Balco case, pleading guilty to perjury. Almost was considering putting this in one of the MLB threads, because it certainly plays into some other person charged with perjury in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Nineteen Eighty-two Heisman Trophy winner and former NFL runningback Herschel Walker announces that he has multiple personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Tim DiPiero, agent for Patriots receiver Randy Moss, emailed the following tonight regarding the situation regarding his client: My communications with Mr. McGill began last Wednesday. He told me that Randy had intentionally hurt his client’s hand and wouldn’t take her to the hospital and that if Randy didn’t pay up, he would go public and file suit in Florida for battery. He gave me until 3 pm Friday to let him know. He demanded that I not come up with “something like $50,000 or $75,000,” but something with “six figures.” He had told me that the x-rays on her hand or finger were negative. I explained that it was my understanding that what occurred was the result of a horseplay-type accident and Randy was sorry it had occurred and he would pay for her medical bills and pain and suffering and that I would prefer to turn this over to his homeowners’ insurance coverage as we normally do with accidents. He said he was not interested in insurance or what her injuries were. He said he was evaluating the claim based on what Randy stood to lose. He threatened that Randy would suffer large amounts of money in future salaries and endorsements and what he claimed would be game suspensions. He also threatened that his client had lots of “dirt” on him. Making such threats is clearly unethical, and in my opinion, criminal. When I tried to ascertain the extent of her injuries, he said that he didn’t know and that it didn’t matter as I just needed to make an offer big enough that she would take it. I sought the assistance of a skilled attorney and friend, Joe Friedberg of Minneapolis, who contacted a friend of his, Richard Sharpstein in Miami, to assist me. Each of them tried to talk to McGill and they both experienced the same attempts to shake down Randy. In fact, he tried to intimidate me by telling me that I would be blamed if the suit got filed. He said in a threatening tone that “it behooved me” to make a big offer and he told me, “don’t blow it.” On Friday afternoon, I contacted the FBI and the US Attorneys’ Offices here in Charleston about his threats. McGill claimed to be driving to the courthouse to file the complaint. I asked if by six figures, he meant $100,000 and he told me to quit “nickel and diming” him. The filing time passed on Friday and he was upset that he had not filed before the Patriot game on Saturday. He kept pushing me to make a big offer. We asked him for a figure and after refusing for awhile, he gave us one, “$500,000, take it or leave it.” People who know me in West Virginia know that I have had a long relationship with Randy and that I care a great deal about him. His success this year on and off the field has been something those of us who are close to him have enjoyed immensely. The private, glowing reports I have received from folks in the Patriots organization about his daily work ethic and rapport with everyone there made us ecstatic for him, given the difficulties he’s had. The Patriot family has come to know him as we do. With this big game coming up and with the media frenzy that I figured would follow, as it has, I admit that I thought about advising Randy to just pay the $500,000. I knew that Randy, given all the positives this year, would not want this situation to hurt the Patriots, especially now, and to be a distraction for his teammates and would pay much more than he should for the sake of the team. Because I’m too close to the situation, I had to listen to the advice of Mr. Friedberg and Mr. Sharpstein who advised me, correctly, that to pay such an outrageous amount was not the right thing to do. We tried to meet with Mr. McGill on Monday, but he refused to do so. I still didn’t want Randy to face all this craziness, and naturally we wanted to settle this thing and were willing to pay an exorbitant amount to do so, so when he asked for an offer on Monday, we said, something to the effect, “you said six figures, how about $100,000?” He said it had to be $500,000 or nothing. We told him to forget it. He had his client file the domestic petition the next day. I don’t want to add to the media frenzy, but I must respond to Mr. McGill’s recent inaccurate statement. I want the U. S. Attorneys Offices in Miami and Charleston, the Prosecuting Attorney of Dade County and the Florida State Bar, whoever has jurisdiction over Mr. McGill’s conduct, to know that I am ready to meet with any and all of them and to testify regarding the blatant threats and attempts to extort money from my client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 i love it! -14 degrees with the wind chill at lambeau for kickoff, let's see some football! GO PACK GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) i love it! -14 degrees with the wind chill at lambeau for kickoff, let's see some football! GO PACK GO Yeah, really can't get much better, add in some snow and that would be nice haha. I really hope the Pack come out right away with their five set of wrs and throw on them the whole first drive just to send a message to the Giants banged up secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Both GB or NY will beat the Patriots if they play like this in SB. Is it just me or does this crowd suck in NE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) Both GB or NY will beat the Patriots if they play like this in SB. Is it just me or does this crowd suck in NE. they are on their cell phones booking super bowl tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Whoops! I slept through the AFC title game, looks like I miss the alleged blow out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Steve's prediction was 10x worse than mine. Least I could say mine through the Colts beating the Pats or a SD upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Jacobs just plowed over Woodson. That looked awesome on the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jan 14, 2008 -> 11:12 AM) but still... thats two big losses and to beat indy on the road was a defining game for the chargers. assuming they get LT and Rivers back... an upset is brewing in foxboro. book it. QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 05:18 PM) Steve's prediction was 10x worse than mine. Least I could say mine through the Colts beating the Pats or a SD upset. In Steve's defense, his prediction hinged on LT playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 07:06 PM) In Steve's defense, his prediction hinged on LT playing. Technically, he did play (got hurt later) but probably wouldn't have been that much of a difference. Point is, it takes balls and is a mistake (not smart) to bet against NE. Pratt's been saying that from the get-go. It looks like only Farve (mind you GB and NY are still playing now) stands in Brady's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 07:19 PM) Technically, he did play (got hurt later) but probably wouldn't have been that much of a difference. 2 carries for 5 yards certainly isnt much. Point is, it takes balls and is a mistake (not smart) to bet against NE. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 07:19 PM) Technically, he did play (got hurt later) but probably wouldn't have been that much of a difference. Point is, it takes balls and is a mistake (not smart) to bet against NE. Pratt's been saying that from the get-go. It looks like only Farve (mind you GB and NY are still playing now) stands in Brady's way. Bull. San Diego covered the spread today. (and I know what you mean, but I'm of course just talking about actual betting, with the spread and all that fun stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Two Observations: It appears Eli has finally become a man today. Al Harris needs to do less talking and more covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 McQuarters is garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Third Observation The screen has failed at least 5 times, probably closer to 10 for the Packers. Maybe it is time to try something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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