fathom Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) Why didn't the refs challenge that catch near the end zone? Sure seemed like he didn't catch it cleanly. Edited September 11, 2007 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) 22 seconds, 2 timeouts remaining, SF just socred so it's 20-17 SF in the 4th. Matt Leinart has to lead his team either to FG range or a TD. Can the great Matt Leinart do it? EDIT: He just threw a pick. What a comeback for the 49ers. Edited September 11, 2007 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 What a good finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) So... does Eli Manning have a separated shoulder? Yes or No. ESPN isn't even sure although Chris Mortenson is but the Giants front office isn't. EDIT: Orlando Pace's shoulder injury apperantly career threatening. (probably career ending) Edited September 11, 2007 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 01:06 AM) So... does Eli Manning have a separated shoulder? Yes or No. ESPN isn't even sure although Chris Mortenson is but the Giants front office isn't. EDIT: Orlando Pace's shoulder injury apperantly career threatening. (probably career ending) I think it's safest to say slightly separated shoulder; that's what I believe ESPN said. And that'd be terrible about Pace; what a horrendous way to see a Hall of Fame career end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:13 AM) Yay for having both Lee Evans and Larry Fitz on my fantasy squad, and losing by 6 points this week Underf***ingachievers. Fitz, Evans and D Jax in one of my leagues. I still won this week by 40ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:10 PM) Lovie Smith is a perfectly fine football coach but I'm not a big fan. I don't think he's good at making adjustments and I'm a much bigger fan of other coaches. It's nothing big and personal though, but leave it to RockRaines to crack if someone doesn't like a good-but-not-great Chicago coach. yeah, its hard to support one of the best coaches in the league who has lived up to almost everything he has set out to do from the outset. No matter he rebuilt the team the way he wanted it and got us to the superbowl in 3 years. No matter his team had one of the highest scoring offenses and best defenses in the league last season. No matter his team has improved steadily over his tenure. No matter he is not only one of the most respected coaches in the league, but that his team has a better image than most in the NFL. No matter all of that. Hes not great until he......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 09:08 AM) yeah, its hard to support one of the best coaches in the league who has lived up to almost everything he has set out to do from the outset. No matter he rebuilt the team the way he wanted it and got us to the superbowl in 3 years. No matter his team had one of the highest scoring offenses and best defenses in the league last season. No matter his team has improved steadily over his tenure. No matter he is not only one of the most respected coaches in the league, but that his team has a better image than most in the NFL. No matter all of that. Hes not great until he......................... ....wins the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:07 PM) ....wins the Super Bowl. Besides maybe one other coach, Lovie has to be considered the best or one of the best in the league hands down. Respective to their sports, he is head and shoulders above Ozzie, even with Ozzie's ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:09 PM) Besides maybe one other coach, Lovie has to be considered the best or one of the best in the league hands down. Respective to their sports, he is head and shoulders above Ozzie, even with Ozzie's ring. What? Only one other Coach is better than him? Who the hell is that? Belichick? And then no one? Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 FoxSports.com reports that the Browns have traded Charlie Frye to the Seahawks. From starter to deposed in two days. Frye was once seen as the future of the Browns franchise, but never showed good decision making. The Browns are doing Frye a favor by giving him a fresh start with a great quarterback coach. Look for Frye to eventually replace Seneca Wallace as Matt Hasselbeck's backup. Derek Anderson looks like the favorite to start in Cleveland until Brady Quinn is ready. Sep. 11 - 12:19 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:44 PM) What? Only one other Coach is better than him? Who the hell is that? Belichick? And then no one? Give me a break. Who then? Lovie is one of the top coaches in the NFL hands down. Besides the results that he brings, the wins, and also the coaching awards, what else do you need to see to determine that he is one of the best in the NFL. most everyone else involved with the NFL agrees with me and he has a coach of the year award to prove it. He followed that up by taking his team to the super bowl the following season. Im beginning to think that you may go through life always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side as you arent happy with any coach or management running ANY chicago team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:56 PM) Who then? Lovie is one of the top coaches in the NFL hands down. Besides the results that he brings, the wins, and also the coaching awards, what else do you need to see to determine that he is one of the best in the NFL. most everyone else involved with the NFL agrees with me and he has a coach of the year award to prove it. He followed that up by taking his team to the super bowl the following season. Im beginning to think that you may go through life always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side as you arent happy with any coach or management running ANY chicago team. What part of "he's a good-but-not-great" coach don't you understand? I'm happy enough with him as coach but wish we had someone like Bill Belichick. I'd take a few others over him as well. Dungy. You just can't handle the mildest of criticisms of your lord and savior Chicago sportsmen because anytime anyone criticizes anyone in Chicago you go, "Oh, oh, he's so good, how dare you!" Jesus Christ, I acknowledge that he's good, say he's not great. Agree to disagree and leave it alone. (PS: Coach of the Year doesn't mean he's acknowledged as one of the best. People understand he is one of the better coaches in football but Coach of the Year doesn't mean you're one of the best. Just that you deserved it for being good when you werne't expected to be or for taking your team further than some thought it would go.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:58 PM) What part of "he's a good-but-not-great" coach don't you understand? I'm happy enough with him as coach but wish we had someone like Bill Belichick. I'd take a few others over him as well. Dungy. You just can't handle the mildest of criticisms of your lord and savior Chicago sportsmen because anytime anyone criticizes anyone in Chicago you go, "Oh, oh, he's so good, how dare you!" Jesus Christ, I acknowledge that he's good, say he's not great. Agree to disagree and leave it alone. (PS: Coach of the Year doesn't mean he's acknowledged as one of the best. People understand he is one of the better coaches in football but Coach of the Year doesn't mean you're one of the best. Just that you deserved it for being good when you werne't expected to be or for taking your team further than some thought it would go.) Hahahaha. Leave it to you to say agree to disagree when all you ever do is disagree with everything said on this site. You arent happy with any coach, gm or owners of any team in chicago. No coach is considered great unless they are in another city. We can agree to disagree if you like. But there arent many people who are familiar with sports that will disagree with Lovie Smith being one of the top coaches in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 01:05 PM) Hahahaha. Leave it to you to say agree to disagree when all you ever do is disagree with everything said on this site. You arent happy with any coach, gm or owners of any team in chicago. No coach is considered great unless they are in another city. We can agree to disagree if you like. But there arent many people who are familiar with sports that will disagree with Lovie Smith being one of the top coaches in the NFL. Did I say he wasn't one of the better or top coaches? I say he's good but not great. Leave it to you to slurp management here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 01:05 PM) Hahahaha. Leave it to you to say agree to disagree when all you ever do is disagree with everything said on this site. You arent happy with any coach, gm or owners of any team in chicago. No coach is considered great unless they are in another city. We can agree to disagree if you like. But there arent many people who are familiar with sports that will disagree with Lovie Smith being one of the top coaches in the NFL. Oh, and I think Scott Skiles is a great coach. Ozzie, too, but all I ever do is hate everybody in Chciago1111 Edited September 11, 2007 by Gregory Pratt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 05:44 PM) What? Only one other Coach is better than him? Who the hell is that? Belichick? And then no one? Give me a break. Hey, that's just Rock being Rock. Lovie is the most successful coach from the Dungy tree (thus far, anyway), but I wouldn't go as far as to call him a Top 10 coach in the NFL. He just happens to work with the most brilliant defensive scout in all of football. Meatheads will point to the W/L record, no doubt, but in the end, dude is just not of the Belichick/Billick/Shanahan/Dungy/Gibbs/Reid/Fox/etc caliber. I have love for Lovie, though. While he might have some Dusty-like qualities, his football philosophy is sound, and he's excellent with young players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 01:10 PM) Hey, that's just Rock being Rock. Lovie is the most successful coach from the Dungy tree (thus far, anyway), but I wouldn't go as far as to call him a Top 10 coach in the NFL. He just happens to work with the most brilliant defensive scout in all of football. Meatheads will point to the W/L record, no doubt, but in the end, dude is just not of the Belichick/Billick/Shanahan/Dungy/Gibbs/Reid/Fox/etc caliber. I have love for Lovie, though. While he might have some Dusty-like qualities, his football philosophy is sound, and he's excellent with young players. WHAT DOES HE NEED TO DO TO PROVE HE'S A TOP ONE OR TWO COACH TO YOU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Wow, wonder what this means for Seneca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 05:56 PM) Im beginning to think that you may go through life always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side as you arent happy with any coach or management running ANY chicago team. Pratt is the biggest Ozzie fan I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 02:19 PM) Wow, wonder what this means for Seneca. Seneca Wallace is moving to Wide Receiver. That's why Seattle accepted this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Sonik22 @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 02:43 PM) Seneca Wallace is moving to Wide Receiver. That's why Seattle accepted this trade. seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Looks like Kevin Everett is going to walk again. Absolutely fantastic news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) Pratt is the biggest Ozzie fan I know. Yeah. I love Ozzie. I've even compared him to LaRussa in the best way, rather than the worst. I defend just about everything about him that's defensible, and I've bashed his moves here and there, when I feel they're warranted. I've raised Qs about him. I don't blindly support him. But I love Ozzie, man, he's awesome. Guess I only like John Schuerholz and Bill Belichick. You know, for all the s*** I get for Schuerholz, and will get for Belichick, I am usually the first and most ardent defender of Ozzie when someone says, "Dumb move" and I pop in and say, "Not really." I've always been the first to defend him from the "HE HATES YOUNG PLAYERS!" nonsense. But hey...saying Lovie is good-not-great, man, what the f***? I hate Chicago. I may as well be Mariotti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 04:52 PM) Looks like Kevin Everett is going to walk again. Absolutely fantastic news. Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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