Brian Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 What was the play with Hinske? Gameday just says single on bunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 And just like that, Contreras has a horrible start. There goes any possible trade value for him. Just DL his albatross contract, and fire Ozzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 is that ozzie or dusty baker as our manager....keep napping oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxchick1224 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Hawk is right(never say that much) but we did it to ourselves! But come on NO OUTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Wow, this is quite the meltdown here. I've never seen Hawk criticize a manager like he is right now. more details please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 what does AJ do when ozzie is talking to contreras in spanish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 07:55 PM) What was the play with Hinske? Gameday just says single on bunt. Hinske bunts it foul with the shift on and the left side open. And our PATHETIC manager says take the free hit and leaves the shift on, and he gets a free bunt single on the 2nd pitch. All that so you can shift a loser like Erik Hinske. That's maybe the dumbest managerial move I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 that be hilarious if ortiz bunted now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 21, 2007 -> 12:56 AM) more details please. Hinske showed bunt, and didn't do it. Then, the Sox stayed in a shift where Fields was at SS, and Uribe behind 2nd base. Hawk/DJ were going nuts about how Hinske will just lay down a bunt, and then he did with ease down the 3rd base line. Hawk/DJ were saying right away how bad that is, and that we deserve everything that happens this inning. The camera was focused on Ozzie during this rant. And now, Contreras has given up at least 5 runs for seemingly his 20th start in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoopsThompson Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 OH NO OZZIE MADE A MISTAKE FIRE HIM EVERYTHING IS HIS FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Hinske bunts it foul with the shift on and the left side open. And our PATHETIC manager says take the free hit and leaves the shift on, and he gets a free bunt single on the 2nd pitch. All that so you can shift a loser like Erik Hinske. That's maybe the dumbest managerial move I have ever seen. That's pretty bad. Would Crede have made the play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 JD's is really going up recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 LoL at shifting for Hinske at all. The guy is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Between this game and that Royals game a few weeks back, we've really hurt any chance we had to free up 20 million for the worst pitcher in baseball, in terms of losses, since the ASB last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxchick1224 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Too bad Jose has really no trade value after that inning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 08:00 PM) Between this game and that Royals game a few weeks back, we've really hurt any chance we had to free up 20 million for the worst pitcher in baseball, in terms of losses, since the ASB last year. As weak as the market is for pitching to trade for, I still think we can unload Jose on someone. We may not get much, but who cares. Just get him outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Between this game and that Royals game a few weeks back, we've really hurt any chance we had to free up 20 million for the worst pitcher in baseball, in terms of losses, since the ASB last year. Do the number of losses a pitcher has really matter when he on a crap team? Contreras isn't helping his own causes, but if Hawk Harrelson is ripping your managerial decisions, it says a lot on what has been going on since ASB 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 21, 2007 -> 01:02 AM) As weak as the market is for pitching to trade for, I still think we can unload Jose on someone. We may not get much, but who cares. Just get him outta here. I wish we weren't hearing quotes from teams in the market for starting pitchers like "there's nothing out there that's an improvement". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 08:05 PM) I wish we weren't hearing quotes from teams in the market for starting pitchers like "there's nothing out there that's an improvement". I think/hope teams get desperate around the 31st. Like El Duque telling Minaya to go after Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 At this point, I don't care if we get Jeff Berry back for Jose. They just need to get rid of that 20 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 08:00 PM) Between this game and that Royals game a few weeks back, we've really hurt any chance we had to free up 20 million for the worst pitcher in baseball, in terms of losses, since the ASB last year. 7/14/06 - 7/15/07: 9-20, 5.35 ERA, 1.46 WHIP, 5.6 K/9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 08:05 PM) I wish we weren't hearing quotes from teams in the market for starting pitchers like "there's nothing out there that's an improvement". One problem is our manager doesn't care about trade value for his starting pitchers. Who knows, perhaps if the bullpen was stronger he'd be willing to remove Contreras earlier. But since such a scenario doesn't exist, all Guillen can do is leave out Contreras to pitch, eat innings, and ultimately limit the amount of relievers used before Jenks. Edited July 21, 2007 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 09:11 PM) 7/14/06 - 7/15/07: 9-20, 5.35 ERA, 1.46 WHIP, 5.6 K/9 Jesus Christ, thats absolutely ridiculous for that contract he has. Great job on that one KW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 The scouts at this game aren't going to be ripping Count. He hasn't pitched a bad game at all, if not for his dumbass manager, this could be a different story to say the least. He's he decent stuff in these 6 innings too. And NOW the shift isn't on, and hey the great Hinske makes an out!! Too late Ozzie. Dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jul 21, 2007 -> 01:13 AM) Jesus Christ, thats absolutely ridiculous for that contract he has. Great job on that one KW. Maybe he should stand in front of the dugout, say he takes the blame for the contract......and then do absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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