Texsox Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 No shortage of guys that could be reassigned. If PK's shoulder wtarts to hurt some more perhaps he could spend some time rehabing and see what shakes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 That's a nice short term solution and maybe give some time for things to shake out. However Rios should be gone, and Glover following Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 I think the trade is stupid. Ring is much too good of a prospect for a guy who will be lucky to get 25 hits between now and 9-30-03. Just what I was afraid of. They out-negoiated KW. First they ask for Cotts, knowing we won't give in, so they come down to Ring and KW jumps on it like a tall dog. Because he is now united with his big brother. Who cares? Now we have Jiminez sitting on the bench b****ing. Why didn't we trade him for Alomar. That would make some sense. I hope Ring has a big time career with the Mets. Outsmarted by the Mets. Unbelievable. No mater what we were going to give up one of our good pitchers. So I don't know why you are complaining. Do you want to hang on to a guy who is in the minors and hasn't showed anything in the majors. Or do you want to get a Hall Famer at a postion of need. I say #2. Plus be happy KW just traded away 2 minor league Relievers not even staters but relievers. And IMO Ring wasn't any better than Marte and he is already in the majors proving him self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 The Trib is reporting another player in the deal. Anyone ever heard of Salvo? The White Sox have acquired second baseman Robby Alomar from the New York Mets for three minor league prospects. Pitchers Royce Ring, the top Sox draft pick in 2002, and Edwin Almonte and infielder Andrew Salvo went to the Mets. More details to come. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 The problem is, he's not playing like a Hall of Famer anymore. If we had Cal Ripken on our team now, would we claim to have a HOF at 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 No mater what we were going to give up one of our good pitchers. So I don't know why you are complaining. Do you want to hang on to a guy who is in the minors and hasn't showed anything in the majors. Or do you want to get a Hall Famer at a postion of need. I say #2. Plus be happy KW just traded away 2 minor league Relievers not even staters but relievers. And IMO Ring wasn't any better than Marte and he is already in the majors proving him self. I think the masses would agree with you. The Mets are waving the white flag and we're buying not selling. That is a f***ing great feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 No mater what we were going to give up one of our good pitchers. So I don't know why you are complaining. Do you want to hang on to a guy who is in the minors and hasn't showed anything in the majors. Or do you want to get a Hall Famer at a postion of need. I say #2. Plus be happy KW just traded away 2 minor league Relievers not even staters but relievers. And IMO Ring wasn't any better than Marte and he is already in the majors proving him self. And I'd like to add to that I think that Ginter and Wright could very well be better out of the pen than Ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 The problem is, he's not playing like a Hall of Famer anymore. If we had Cal Ripken on our team now, would we claim to have a HOF at 3rd? Still he improves our defense and leadoff postion. I think with his brother and out of the New York spotlight he will be a much better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Ya, Rios will probly be one that bites the dust here soon. That at bat sunday was enough for me Last night did nothing to endear him to me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Still he improves our defense and leadoff postion. I think with his brother and out of the New York spotlight he will be a much better player. He also began his decline the day he went to the Mets and the NL. I am willing to take a chance that this could be a rebirth for Alomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 alomar stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 He better produce fast. A one-year rental for Ring AND Almonte? f***ing terrible trade, fellas...IF he doesn't produce now and/or we don't re-sign him, which we won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 NOW who do we have as a future closer? We trade Valentine to the A's and Ring to the Mets....who do we have??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 NOW who do we have as a future closer? We trade Valentine to the A's and Ring to the Mets....who do we have??? Danny Wright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Never say we can't resign him. It seems Sandy likes Chicago, and he could help up keep Robbie after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 I think I mentioned before that he was hitting about .245 at Shea and he's still hitting over .300 vs righties. He's a career .310 hitter at the Cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 As you mentioned UNS, he is a great hitter at the Cell. Awesome pick-up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 NOW who do we have as a future closer? We trade Valentine to the A's and Ring to the Mets....who do we have??? Ginter and Danny Wright. I really think Danny could be a great closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Koch is still very young. He can't be older than 28. Plus Wright has the stuff to be a great closer. Also if Almonte was any good he would have been up here 2 to 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Ring, Almonte, and Andy Salvo for Alomar? Stolen! Kudos to KW, great trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 alomar's defense is a plus right away, but only if he picks it up hitting-wise will this trade be worthwile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 In any trade the team that got "the guy", in this case Alomar, gave up more than all the other teams that were interested. Did we give up 150% more? 100% more? 25% more? I'm betting our offer was just about the same but the Mets might have tried to: accomodate a future HoF, moved him from the NL, dealt him to a contender. I'm a little worried at how happy Met's fans are to see him go. He may have been the poster child for the team's lack of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 alomar's defense is a plus right away, but only if he picks it up hitting-wise will this trade be worthwile. Really good point. Even if he ONLY hits his current .266 he is a 10 point improvement on Jimenez and a 70 pt improvement on Harris. And that is before you factor in that his D blows away anyone we have. Plus he has been in the playoffs and pennant races how many time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 People dont understand that we just got ROBERTO f***IN ALOMAR! Let that sink in really quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Look, I'm not buying into this trade yet. We have lost Ring and Valentine...two future stud closers not to mention Biddle. Are we really going to rely on Koch for the next 3-5 years? They have Benetiz on the block also. Why couldn't we throw in another prospect for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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