7/25 Games

[danman31]

Charlotte @ Buffalo 6:05 Broadway vs. Sowers

 

Birmingham @ West Tenn 7:05 Wing (Team USA playing at Hoover/Regions Park)

 

Warthogs already won 3-1

Richard 8 IP, 1 R, 3 K, 2 BB, 3 hits

 

Rome @ Kannapolis 6:05 DLS hasn't pitched since the 18th so I would think it's him, but the Kanny games notes say TBD

 

Great Falls @ Orem 8:05

 

Bristol @ Bluefiled 6

[maggsmaggs]

Charlotte @ Buffalo 6:05 Broadway vs. Sowers

 

Birmingham @ West Tenn 7:05 Wing (Team USA playing at Hoover/Regions Park)

 

Warthogs already won 3-1

Richard 8 IP, 1 R, 3 K, 2 BB, 3 hits

 

Rome @ Kannapolis 6:05 DLS hasn't pitched since the 18th so I would think it's him, but the Kanny games notes say TBD

 

Great Falls @ Orem 8:05

 

Bristol @ Bluefiled 6

Could be Edwards, too, since yesterday was his game and it was rained out.

[danman31]

Survey says Rasner haha.

[fathom]

Is DLS ok?

[Heads22]

Broadway with a one hitter thru 4, lookin good for once.

[Rowand44]

Is DLS ok?

Just holding him out so we can trade him for Dunn.

[Flash Tizzle]

Is DLS ok?

He better be.

 

Lord knows many pitchers possessing his ability don't come around very often in this organization.

[danman31]

Charlotte won 5-3

Bourgeois 2-5, 3B, 3 RBI, R, K, SB

Broadway 6 IP, 1 R, 7 K, 4 BB, 3 hits

Masset IP

Aardsma IP, K

 

Kanny lost 12-5

Allen 2-5, 2 2B, 2 RBI, K

Gartrell 2-3, 2 R, BB, CS

Hernandez 0-1, R, 3 BB

Rasner 6 IP, 5 R (3 ER)

[CWSGuy406]

Dan -- Francisco Hernandez was suspended for quite some time this season, right? If so, was it an on-field related or a drug-related suspension?

[whitesoxfan101]

Bristol lost 4-1. Po Yu-Lin threw in that one, 4 innings pitched with 7 hits, 4 runs earned....but no walks, 8 strikeouts, and 3 of the 4 non k outs were on the ground. He's now 3-2 with a 2.92 ERA at Bristol, with 37 hits, only 8 walks, and 40 k's in 37 innings and a 1.41 GO/AO, .257 average against. Frank Rosario threw 4 strong relief innings, 3 hits, 1 walk, 4 k's, no runs, lowering his ERA to 3.86, and has been great his last 5 outings.

 

Birmingham won 13-8. It was actually 13-1 heading to the bottom of the 9th, but a bullpen collapse by Honel (0.1 IP, 5 runs earned) and Bittner (0.1 IP, 2 runs earned) made it look closer before Hernandez got the final out. Ryan Wing improved to 5-4 with a 3.07, going 5 innings and allowing only 2 hits and 1 run (on a solo HR), with 3 walks and 6 k's. In a bizarre feat for the Barons, they exploded on offense, as every starter except Cole Aldridge contributed, and Collaro had *gasp* 2 walks in 1 game!!

 

 

[BearSox]

Broadway has been striking a lot of batters out lately. I think he is probably averaging at least close to 1 K per inning since about June or so. The problem is, for a control pitcher, he hasn't had much control this season. Perhaps he has really been letting it loose and hence why he is issuing more walks.

[whitesoxfan101]

Broadway has been striking a lot of batters out lately. I think he is probably averaging at least close to 1 K per inning since about June or so. The problem is, for a control pitcher, he hasn't had much control this season. Perhaps he has really been letting it loose and hence why he is issuing more walks.

 

His walk AND strikeout totals have been way up lately. Based on what I've seen (I've seen 2 of his starts in the last 6 weeks via MILB), it seems like his 2 seamer has had a LOT more life. Not sure if it's the arm angle or release point or what, but his 2 seamer has been a lot better. Thing is, he doesn't seem to know where it's going at all times, but neither does the hitter, which has led to more k's, more walks, and a lot of pitches. Hopefully he can harness the movement on that 2 seamer though, if he can keep up his recent k splits and get the walk totals down to a modest level, then maybe we have something.

 

First 10 starts: 53 innings, 22 BB, 24 K

Last 10 starts: 60 innings, 36 BB, 50 K

 

The thing is, he allowed 59 hits in each of those 10 start stretches, so his ERA rise has been due to the walks obviously. Just get that walk total down a bit and try and keep the K rate up, and he's at least modestly better and can project to a guy that can help for the big club IMO.

Edited July 26, 2007 by whitesoxfan101

[BearSox]

His walk AND strikeout totals have been way up lately. Based on what I've seen (I've seen 2 of his starts in the last 6 weeks via MILB), it seems like his 2 seamer has had a LOT more life. Not sure if it's the arm angle or release point or what, but his 2 seamer has been a lot better. Thing is, he doesn't seem to know where it's going at all times, but neither does the hitter, which has led to more k's, more walks, and a lot of pitches. Hopefully he can harness the movement on that 2 seamer though, if he can keep up his recent k splits and get the walk totals down to a modest level, then maybe we have something.

 

First 10 starts: 53 innings, 22 BB, 24 K

Last 10 starts: 60 innings, 36 BB, 50 K

 

The thing is, he allowed 59 hits in each of those 10 start stretches, so his ERA rise has been due to the walks obviously. Just get that walk total down a bit and try and keep the K rate up, and he's at least modestly better and can project to a guy that can help for the big club IMO.

thank you for the info my good man.

 

IIRC, in the offseason KW said that Broadway was throwing a 2-seamer similar to Garland's. Perhaps now he feels more comfortable to throw it in game situations.

Edited July 26, 2007 by BearSox

[whitesoxfan101]

thank you for the info my good man.

 

IIRC, in the offseason KW said that Broadway was throwing a 2-seamer similar to Garland's. Perhaps now he feels more comfortable to throw it in game situations.

 

Yep, the splits and what I've seen suggest the last 10 starts has been when he's started to throw it more. And it makes sense with the walks, K's, and ERA going up too, Garland in 2002-2004 had walk totals in the 80's and struggled, whereas in 2005-2007 he's about cut them in half and has been a much better pitcher as a result. The good news is all that suggests that Broadway has hope as an MLB pitcher if he can continue to improve that 2 seamer. The bad news is look how long it took Garland to control it at the MLB level, and keep in mind how much younger of an age Garland got to the MLB and was throwing a 2 seamer.

Edited July 26, 2007 by whitesoxfan101

[danman31]

Dan -- Francisco Hernandez was suspended for quite some time this season, right? If so, was it an on-field related or a drug-related suspension?

He was suspended for 7 days and I thought the first suspension for steroids was 15 days so I'm going to guess no, but I really don't know for sure.

[whitesoxfan101]

Poreda continues to dominate btw....2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 k's, 3 groundouts......not sure if they think he's a SP or RP, but he seems ready for Kanny either way.

[DBAHO]

Some people may have had a little hope for Honel, but his last couple of outings out of the pen have pretty much comfirmed he's done as a prospect.

 

Just another fantastic selection from Duane Shaffer.

[DBAHO]

Poreda continues to dominate btw....2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 k's, 3 groundouts......not sure if they think he's a SP or RP, but he seems ready for Kanny either way.

You'd hope as a SP, otherwise people will start flaming the pick.

 

Either way, I think they're just getting him ready for next season. You have to remember our previous 1st round picks such as Broadway didn't pitch much in the minors after they were drafted that season.

[CWSGuy406]

Poreda continues to dominate btw....2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 k's, 3 groundouts......not sure if they think he's a SP or RP, but he seems ready for Kanny either way.

 

If Poreda eventually made it as a 2006 version of Matt Thorton -- I'm talking dominant lefty setup man -- would people really be that pissed? I mean, I know Porcello was taken immediately afterwords, but I'd have to think that getting a great reliever with the 25th (?) overall pick is better than the 'expected value' of that pick.

[whitesoxfan101]

If Poreda eventually made it as a 2006 version of Matt Thorton -- I'm talking dominant lefty setup man -- would people really be that pissed? I mean, I know Porcello was taken immediately afterwords, but I'd have to think that getting a great reliever with the 25th (?) overall pick is better than the 'expected value' of that pick.

 

Poreda's long term future depends on health and the development of his off speed stuff. Really, he was a "safe" pick in the sense that even if his secondary stuff doesn't develop, he's still a 6'6 lefty with a mid 90's fastball and power sinker that gets a ton of grounders. But yeah, if he develops some secondary pitches, he'll be a starter, if not, relief pitcher. And then of course there is the injury factor, but I'm hoping that doesn't come into play too much.

[whitesoxfan101]

Some people may have had a little hope for Honel, but his last couple of outings out of the pen have pretty much comfirmed he's done as a prospect.

 

Just another fantastic selection from Duane Shaffer.

 

Yeah, well he has 52 walks in 61 innings to go along with only 44 strikeouts, and has a 0.80 GO/AO, not good. At least our 2nd round pick in that draft in the lefty Wing seems to be having a nice bounce back year at B-Ham. I'd think if he can stay healthy he'll be in Charlotte next year, I hope he can keep pitching well.

[DBAHO]

Poreda's long term future depends on health and the development of his off speed stuff. Really, he was a "safe" pick in the sense that even if his secondary stuff doesn't develop, he's still a 6'6 lefty with a mid 90's fastball and power sinker that gets a ton of grounders. But yeah, if he develops some secondary pitches, he'll be a starter, if not, relief pitcher. And then of course there is the injury factor, but I'm hoping that doesn't come into play too much.

That's the key, and the Sox have a pretty good record of teaching those secondary pitches to their SP spects over the past couple of seasons, hence why I think they made the selection with Poreda here.

[BearSox]

Poreda continues to dominate btw....2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 k's, 3 groundouts......not sure if they think he's a SP or RP, but he seems ready for Kanny either way.

not to excited as he is out of college and a first round pick playing the the lower rookie ball level.

[BearSox]

Some people may have had a little hope for Honel, but his last couple of outings out of the pen have pretty much comfirmed he's done as a prospect.

 

Just another fantastic selection from Duane Shaffer.

well, we can chalk that one up to injuries. Before his injuries, he seemed like an elite prospect.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Some people may have had a little hope for Honel, but his last couple of outings out of the pen have pretty much comfirmed he's done as a prospect.

 

Just another fantastic selection from Duane Shaffer.

 

You can't blame him for that one. Honel showed prolonged flashes of dominance in the minors before injuries derailed his career. Shame too, because he looked like he'd be up in Chicago for a while just a few years back