bigruss Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:49 PM) Though I understand your point, I don't want that. Paulie is one of the few players that makes us proud, even in loss the dude is still a stud, a class act, a leader, and a winner.... We just need to put some friggin people in front of him. I mean i dont really want to trade them, as those two and beurhle give you a very strong core to work with. Its a shame that almost everybody else took a step down from last year (offensively and bullpen) to really hurt this team. They give us reason for hope though, and as you said all three are class acts which makes it all that much more fun to watch them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:48 PM) 13th in scoring, 1st in rebounding, tremendous defender. Ya he's a top 10 player. I don't want to get into a huge NBA debate here, but I'll say it's close. Definitely not top 5. Lebron, Carmelo, Duncan, Kobe, Dirk, Nash, Arenas, Wade, Yao... And he was 17th in scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 That was an amazing play by Dye....hope he's OK. It's weird about how to react towards him now, as I'm not sure if he want him to do good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:54 PM) I don't want to get into a huge NBA debate here Better not or I'll start a debate on who should be the Blackhawks 2nd line center. (indeed it should be and is Toews) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briguy27 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I don't want to get into a huge NBA debate here, but I'll say it's close. Definitely not top 5. Lebron, Carmelo, Duncan, Kobe, Dirk, Nash, Arenas, Wade, Yao... And he was 17th in scoring. I know Dirk was the MVP, but when it comes to playoff time, he chokes. Arenas is good, yes. I wouldn't put Carmelo in the top 5 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:54 PM) I don't want to get into a huge NBA debate here, but I'll say it's close. Definitely not top 5. Lebron, Carmelo, Duncan, Kobe, Dirk, Nash, Arenas, Wade, Yao... And he was 17th in scoring. I hate those pictures of Noah you have, one of the ugliest athletes i know of (although far from jorge cantu), but i do wish he develops into a good playa for the bulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:56 PM) That was an amazing play by Dye....hope he's OK. It's weird about how to react towards him now, as I'm not sure if he want him to do good. I thought you want to resign him and get rid of Pods/Erstad in the offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Come on Chuckles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I wish the slaughter rule was in effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:57 PM) I know Dirk was the MVP, but when it comes to playoff time, he chokes. Arenas is good, yes. I wouldn't put Carmelo in the top 5 yet. I hate Dirk, but he's a damn good player. And he doesn't always choke when it comes to playoffs. He got jobbed in the Finals against Wade (where Wade shot like 25 FT/game) and the beating the Warriors gave him in the playoffs shouldn't be taking into consideration too much because of Nelson and all he knew about the Mavs. :Tries to stop talking about basketball: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(JohnCangelosi @ Aug 1, 2007 -> 12:58 AM) <!--quoteo(post=1481713:date=Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:56 PM:name=fathom)-->QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:56 PM) <!--quotec-->That was an amazing play by Dye....hope he's OK. It's weird about how to react towards him now, as I'm not sure if he want him to do good. I thought you want to resign him and get rid of Pods/Erstad in the offseason? I do, but if he stays hot the rest of the year, he'll get a big contract from someone. I'd rather he stay in the .230 range, hit 25 homers, and we get him at a good rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 two out walks always come back to haunt you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf_soxfan Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Helping other teams get back on track: the 2007 Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:59 PM) I do, but if he stays hot the rest of the year, he'll get a big contract from someone. I'd rather he stay in the .230 range, hit 25 homers, and we get him at a good rate. Yeah - hopefully we can lock him up in the next week or so. Assuming we don't what do you think the max he fetches in the offseason in yrs and dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(sf_soxfan @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:02 PM) Helping other teams get back on track: the 2007 Chicago White Sox We did pretty much begin the resurgence of both the Yankees and Cubs. Who knows which other teams we can provide a late season surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(JohnCangelosi @ Aug 1, 2007 -> 01:04 AM) <!--quoteo(post=1481723:date=Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:59 PM:name=fathom)-->QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:59 PM) <!--quotec-->I do, but if he stays hot the rest of the year, he'll get a big contract from someone. I'd rather he stay in the .230 range, hit 25 homers, and we get him at a good rate. Yeah - hopefully we can lock him up in the next week or so. Assuming we don't what do you think the max he fetches in the offseason in yrs and dollars? No clue, but he's going to want 3 or 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briguy27 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 No clue, but he's going to want 3 or 4 years. And probably around 28 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) And he was 17th in scoring. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?s...amp;season=2007 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:07 PM) No clue, but he's going to want 3 or 4 years. Wonder if he'd take 3 yrs $24 M- I'd make a move on that- but most likely he'll get more somewhere else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:05 PM) We did pretty much begin the resurgence of both the Yankees and Cubs. Who knows which other teams we can provide a late season surge. How about the Brewers... <_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Aug 1, 2007 -> 01:13 AM) How about the Brewers... <_> Finally something we can both agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:08 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?s...amp;season=2007 ? Overall > Qualified. Redd, Allen, Ming, Pierce all left off because of like 7 games they missed so they don't "qualify." See? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Looks like Gavin is throwing his fastball around 89 mph now....shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:15 PM) Overall > Qualified. Redd, Allen, Ming, Pierce all left off because of like 7 games they missed so they don't "qualify." See? Good call, wasn't even looking at that. Regardless you listed 9 guys that was pretty much anyone that could be ahead of him and some that are questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 08:18 PM) Good call, wasn't even looking at that. Regardless you listed 9 guys that was pretty much anyone that could be ahead of him and some that are questionable. Like I said, definitely not top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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