Official College Football Thread

[WilliamTell]

"Grease the f***ing kicker"

 

 

lol too good. They should fire Meyer and hire this dude, he'd make a great motivational coach.

[IlliniKrush]

U of I is talented, but doesn't have a passing game with Juice is in. Wisconsin hasn't looked good, but to have them as an underdog is absurd.

I don't think we should be favored either. However, billing this matchup as the almighty Badgers vs the craptastic Illini is a joke.

[Soxbadger]

Who said that?

 

The only person here who has said anything like that is whitesoxfan101 a perceived Illini fan who said that Wisconsin is a fraud at 5, eventhough they have the longest winning streak in the nation. I guess my question is, what else can you do besides win the games that are in front of you?

 

No one has said that Wisconsin wont give up a lot of points to Illinios, all Im saying is that the reason I dont think Illinois will win is that they will give up to many points to Wisconsin. Donovan has not thrown for a lot of yards, but his passer rating is outstanding 3rd in the Big 10 in rating.

 

As for my teams problems, what is your deal?

 

One of your fans attacked Wisconsin as a fraud and started spouting nonsense. I merely stood up for my team saying that I think Illinois has given up a few points in its game, and I think that Wisconsin will have a better time scoring than Penn State, and every Illini fan has a little hissy fit?

 

The game is going to be played on Saturday, I have no worry that if Wisconsin needs to score it will score.

 

And not exactly sure how I didnt point out a weakness, I said Illinois might score 30. Wisconsin was one of the better defenses last year, but I am realistic on how they are going to play this year. This year's defense cant tackle, and is far to willing to let teams beat them under neath. If Wisconsin lets Illinois run WR screens to Benn, underneath stuff to Mendenhall, it may be a long day. Wisconsin lb's are faster than PSU, but safeties lack discipline and tend to over pursue. Failure of one tackler often leads to big plays in a scheme that is built to be bend but do not break. Offense is often uninspired. Does not feel urgency until later in the game or after defense has given up big play. Does not put other team away, leaves game to close. Often fails on short yardage plays that should be automatic. Zach Brown will back up PJ Hill not Lance Smith. Donovan locks onto Swann cause they are best friends often overlooking more open receivers (Jefferson most specifically). Offense lacks WR depth, best player is Travis Beckum TE/WR hybrid. PJ Hill can be slow to the hole, a faster quicker lb corps some times can frustrate him. Does not hit the hole with power on every down.

 

There, now we can go back to why every time anyone else in the Big 10 wins its luck, and how Illinois is the best college team in football and how dare I question their defense's ability to stop Wisconsin.

[IlliniKrush]

One of the more high powered offenses in the country.

 

And in your heart of hearts, do you think Wisconsin is the 5th best team in the country? I don't either. We wouldn't have a shot in hell of beating a legit top 5 team Saturday, yet we are (correctly or incorrectly doesn't really matter) favored. Hmm

 

I attacked two specific points you made, both which were ridiculous, call that a hissy fit if you wish.

[zenryan]

lol@ Charley the gator fan.

[Rowand44]

"Grease the f***ing kicker"

 

As funny as that is(and it's pretty funny) I'm sure a lot of us here have been that crazy after a loss by one of our favorite teams.

Edited October 2, 2007 by Rowand44

[NorthSideSox72]

NSS, here ya go, a nice guy made a table showing we've improved in a lot of areas statistically...

 

 

Obviously, some things will change...

Full season 2006 included all the Big 12 games against the toughest opponents - 2007 so far has been powerhouses like Akron and UNI making up half the stats. Let's see how those numbers look at the end of the year.

 

[Chisoxfn]

One of the more high powered offenses in the country.

 

And in your heart of hearts, do you think Wisconsin is the 5th best team in the country? I don't either. We wouldn't have a shot in hell of beating a legit top 5 team Saturday, yet we are (correctly or incorrectly doesn't really matter) favored. Hmm

 

I attacked two specific points you made, both which were ridiculous, call that a hissy fit if you wish.

This is one of those games the odds makers are wrong about (just like they were blindly wrong about the Bears being favorites against the Lions...LOL).

[Soxbadger]

Wisconsin is one of the top 5 teams in the country until proven otherwise.

 

They have not lost a game since last year at Michigan.

 

I do not know what else they can do except win games. I dont see in the standings "style points" and plenty of those teams that are generally stylish, lost this week. When you look at the top 10, how many teams are still there from week 1? Its around 50%.

 

Id rather be disrespected by a fan group that has 1 loss, than have 1 loss.

 

/shrugs

 

You attacked 2 specific points?

 

You said Illinois does not give up a lot of points, I showed how in almost every game they gave up more than the average to the other team.

 

You said Wisconsin does not have a high powered offense, I asked when was the last time a team outscored them this year.

 

Isnt that the point of winning football games, not to put up tons of yards and lose. But to win?

 

I really thought thats what football was about, but when you talk to Illini fans it seems that:

 

All winning is luck, the only reason Illini are not 12-0 each season is that they dont have the luck of OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin. 12-0 is the luckiest thing ever, nothing about skill.

 

Hopefully Wisconsin brought their magic horse shoe, because they sure dont have talented players.

[thedoctor]

Wisconsin is one of the top 5 teams in the country until proven otherwise.

 

They have not lost a game since last year at Michigan.

 

I do not know what else they can do except win games. I dont see in the standings "style points" and plenty of those teams that are generally stylish, lost this week. When you look at the top 10, how many teams are still there from week 1? Its around 50%.

 

Id rather be disrespected by a fan group that has 1 loss, than have 1 loss.

 

/shrugs

 

You attacked 2 specific points?

 

You said Illinois does not give up a lot of points, I showed how in almost every game they gave up more than the average to the other team.

 

You said Wisconsin does not have a high powered offense, I asked when was the last time a team outscored them this year.

 

Isnt that the point of winning football games, not to put up tons of yards and lose. But to win?

 

I really thought thats what football was about, but when you talk to Illini fans it seems that:

 

All winning is luck, the only reason Illini are not 12-0 each season is that they dont have the luck of OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin. 12-0 is the luckiest thing ever, nothing about skill.

 

Hopefully Wisconsin brought their magic horse shoe, because they sure dont have talented players.

 

whoa. ease up there man. i think it was one person, not "illini fans" who made the luck argument (which i wholly disagree with, btw).

 

at the same time, if you're going to say a wins a win and that's all that matters, you can't try to debunk and illinois win by saying that morelli "could have won the game." he didn't. whether or not it was his ineptitude or illinois's defensive excellence is besides the point. as you say, a win is a win.

 

either way, i expect saturday's game to be a good one.

 

[Soxbadger]

Sorry I know that not all Illini fans are the same way, but it is just tiring.

 

I never said anything against Illini beating PSU, except for, why is PSU a good team, and who have they beaten? They turned it over a bunch of times (5 maybe) and still were with in striking distance at the end of the game. Its not like Illinois has pounded every team they have played. Now Wisconsin comes in, who was ranked 6th pre-season versus PSU at 18, and there is no way Wisconsin can match up with Illinois?

 

Its just unreal.

 

Wisconsin is the 5th ranked team in the nation, Illinois is unranked. If Illinois wins, they will be rushing the field, acting like its the biggest thing ever. If Wisconsin wins, it merely means that our season is not ruined.

 

I guess thats the basic point, is that you can talk all the trash in the world, but at the end of the day Wisconsin is supposed to win this game and it would be a huge disappointment if they dont.

 

Illinios may win, but to act like Wisconsin has no chance and is not one of the top 10 teams over the last 2 years is pretty ridiculous. All you can do is win the games that you play, and I believe that Wisconsin has won more games in the last 2-3 seasons than any other Big 10 team (if not only OSU is ahead). And I think that should earn your team respect.

 

Hell I give Illinois more respect as a 4-1 unranked team than Illinois fans give Wisconsin as a 5-0 top 5 team.

 

Its not like the experts couldnt rank Illinois higher and Wisconsin lower, there must be some reason why they keep thinking Wisconsin is pretty good.

 

And the line is the way it is because Wisconsin has not covered 1 time this entire year, so Las Vegas is trying to entice betting on the Badger side.

[Felix]

Wisconsin is the 5th ranked team in the nation, Illinois is unranked.

Sure, but there's no chance in hell they're the 5th best team in the nation. They've struggled in almost all of their games this year against crappy opponents, I can't wait for the Badgers to get exposed, hopefully by the Illini this weekend.

[Soxbadger]

You know what, your right.

 

Because they have not fully clicked, yet still have won every game, they are going to get exposed.

 

There is no possible way that as the season progresses that our 2 new starting safeties will begin to play better, and that our new starting QB will start to read defense's better and hit more open receivers.

 

Wisconsin is not even one of the top 25 teams in the nation, who cares that they have not been beaten in 14 games, thats just all luck.

 

You know what, Id rather be 5-0 and not be one of the best teams in the nation compared to all the other great teams in the nation that never struggle and never lose a game.

 

The odd part is, of the pre-season top 10, only 3 teams did not lose in the first month:

 

USC, LSU, and

 

Wisconsin.

 

But hey, every team always wins, there should be no respect given for 5-0. No respect for being able to give up -3 turn overs against Iowa and still win, give up more turn overs against MSU and still win.

 

I dont get why Illinois, who has beaten no one outside of PSU (who has beaten no one this year) is all mighty, yet Wisconsin who has not even lost a game in almost a year, is one of the worst teams in college football.

 

How is it possible to win 14 games in a row and not get any respect?

 

Its not like Wisconsin is going to the horseshoe, or big house, or even playing Iowa who they never beat:

 

2002: 20-37 (Illinois lone win)

2003: 38-20

2004: 24-7

2005: 41-24

2006: 30-24

 

Wisconsin- 5-1 over that period, never being held to under 20 points.

 

Wisconsin is: 51-19 over that stretch

 

Illinois is: 17-46

 

If Illinois wins this game, it is one of the biggest victories in the last 5 years for them.

 

If Wisconsin loses this game, it will ruin their season.

 

Thats where the programs are, and while Illinois may win, there is really no reason to believe that they are even close to the same tier as Wisconsin. 5 games does not make a season.

[Heads22]

Full season 2006 included all the Big 12 games against the toughest opponents - 2007 so far has been powerhouses like Akron and UNI making up half the stats. Let's see how those numbers look at the end of the year.

 

 

I think that the development of the offensive line, one completely devoid of talent, as well as the defense, missing one of the top 15 tacklers nationally from last year in the person of Tyrone McKenzie, shows something.

[Felix]

You know what, your right.

 

Because they have not fully clicked, yet still have won every game, they are going to get exposed.

 

There is no possible way that as the season progresses that our 2 new starting safeties will begin to play better, and that our new starting QB will start to read defense's better and hit more open receivers.

 

Wisconsin is not even one of the top 25 teams in the nation, who cares that they have not been beaten in 14 games, thats just all luck.

 

You know what, Id rather be 5-0 and not be one of the best teams in the nation compared to all the other great teams in the nation that never struggle and never lose a game.

 

The odd part is, of the pre-season top 10, only 3 teams did not lose in the first month:

 

USC, LSU, and

 

Wisconsin.

 

But hey, every team always wins, there should be no respect given for 5-0. No respect for being able to give up -3 turn overs against Iowa and still win, give up more turn overs against MSU and still win.

 

I dont get why Illinois, who has beaten no one outside of PSU (who has beaten no one this year) is all mighty, yet Wisconsin who has not even lost a game in almost a year, is one of the worst teams in college football.

 

How is it possible to win 14 games in a row and not get any respect?

 

Its not like Wisconsin is going to the horseshoe, or big house, or even playing Iowa who they never beat:

 

2002: 20-37 (Illinois lone win)

2003: 38-20

2004: 24-7

2005: 41-24

2006: 30-24

 

Wisconsin- 5-1 over that period, never being held to under 20 points.

 

Wisconsin is: 51-19 over that stretch

 

Illinois is: 17-46

 

If Illinois wins this game, it is one of the biggest victories in the last 5 years for them.

 

If Wisconsin loses this game, it will ruin their season.

 

Thats where the programs are, and while Illinois may win, there is really no reason to believe that they are even close to the same tier as Wisconsin. 5 games does not make a season.

At least you didn't tell me the Gophers suck, which is what my roommate who likes the Badgers usually does.

 

Anywho, I just think the Badgers aren't the fifth best team in the nation, I don't even like the Illini.

Edited October 2, 2007 by Felix

[IlliniKrush]

You said Illinois does not give up a lot of points, I showed how in almost every game they gave up more than the average to the other team.

 

Using an 'average' to compare who gave up what points? 20 points it not a lot to those teams. Plus, you were ignorant about the Mizzou game and referencing the defense. Man, we really got lit up by Penn St and Indiana, right? You claim to have watched many Illini games this year, yet don't think the defense is worth a damn?

 

However, let's use your logic, and say "What does it matter as long as you have more points than the other team. We would have given up less if we had to, we just didn't need to because we scored enough." Or some bulls*** like that.

 

You said Wisconsin does not have a high powered offense, I asked when was the last time a team outscored them this year.

 

Holy crap, are you serious with this? So, in theory, a team that has won every game 3-0 this year could have one of the highest powered offenses in the nation because, well, who has outscored them this year? No one. What brutal logic to defend Wisky as being a great offense. Iowa and their pathetic offense didn't outscore you, so during that game your offense was high powered. HA!

 

 

Now you are just painting a bulls***, stupid picture of Wisky isn't a top 25 team when it's unnecessary. I'm just saying I don't think they are the 5th best team. Hell if they were they wouldn't be a dog in the almighty Memorial Stadium. You are as big a homer as I've seen in some time. But hey, at least you're consistent. It's the same song and dance routine every time with terrible logic.

Edited October 2, 2007 by IlliniKrush

[Soxbadger]

Here are my 2 posts, before you came in and started to write your own argument for me. Notice I never once say "Illinois defense", you just keep creating that argument. Im not going to stoop to personal insults, because I dont think thats necessary.

 

I would be really shocked if Illinois wins.

 

I can see them putting up 30 points, but I really dont see how Illinois can stop Wisconsin from putting up 40 in that scenario. The reason that Wisconsin plays close games is that they play ball control and run the ball. They dont go out there and just start airing it out trying to put up a huge lead.

 

But then again I guess its cool to be disrespectful to the team with the longest winning streak in the nation?

 

Because thats just luck right? Its not about being good winning 14 games in a row, its all about being lucky.

 

College football is about winning every game, its not about style points, its not about how it gets done, its about at the end of the day still being undefeated. In each of the games this season Wisconsin has walked onto the field as the more talented team, and in each game they have walked off the field with a victory.

 

Call me old fashioned, but last I checked Wisconsin was 5-0

 

 

Last year in Madison was a 1 half aberration.

 

As for better opponents I think that needs to be played out, PSU and MSU are going to be about equal when it all plays out, and teams like Iowa, etc play up for Wisconsin, beating a top 10 team is a make or break game, so generally Wisconsin is seeing teams play at their peak.

 

Its not that I dont think Illinois is talented, I just dont see them being as talented as Wisconsin. Penn State was ranked high, but why?

 

It was nothing more than the belief that Morelli would take the next step with the defense and that they would therefore be a potential Big 10 contender.

 

Morelli could have won that game, he made costly mistakes at in opportune times.

 

I think Wisconsin is a bad match up for Illinois because Wisconsin has one of the the most high powered offense's in the nation and Illinois really has given up a good amount of points in almost every game.

 

 

http://blogs.jsonline.com/badgers/archive/...e-underdog.aspx

 

I guess I share good company then:

 

"I think that is ludicrous," Zook said Tuesday when asked about the early betting line. "I think that's probably somebody from Wisconsin trying to get them upset or get them fired up."

 

"I don't think there is any way possible a team like us could be favored over a team like Wisconsin," Zook said.

 

So yes Ron Zook and I are huge Wisconsin homer's because both of us agree that Wisconsin should be favored, and should win this game.

 

Yes it is possible that Illinois will win, but I never said otherwise. In every one of my posts I have stated the same thing, I think it will be close but that Illinois will not be able to stop Wisconsin with as much consistency as Wisconsin will stop Illinois.

 

That is so far fetched, that your own coach believes it.

 

This thread is a joke, and shows why many fans believe that Illini are unbearable when it comes to talking about sports. Most of you guys I respect and really enjoy talking with, but when it comes to the Illini it immediately is an insult or something about how the other person is ignorant, etc etc.

 

A lot of times your points would be heard better if you didnt resort to that type of stuff, its not like anywhere Ive disresected Illinois. I said that they might score 30, that seems like a pretty big compliment to a team that prior to this year was not beating anyone.

 

/shrugs

Edited October 3, 2007 by Soxbadger

[IlliniKrush]

I really wish you would stop posting about anything Wisconsin. You do the same thing with basketball. Most Illini fans on here are extremely objective. You add nothing but bulls*** to the thread and have nothing to back it up. Then, you change your argument/point at every turn when confronted on it. You are a huge homer, it's not possible for you to look at Wisconsin objectively. You write off last year's close game as a one half abberation and that's that even though Illinois hung in with a ton of teams last year just like that. You talk about how Morelli should have won the game, yet talk about how Wisky only needed to score more points than the other team, and the only reason the Iowa game was close was because Iowa played so well because they were amped up (which clearly wasn't the case, that Saturday night game was a s***show), etc. I don't know what you've seen from Wisky this year to make you think they are a GREAT team, outside of not losing. However, they've only played 2 decent opponents, both at home, and barely won both. Bottom line correct? Sure. But if you were impressed by both performances...wow.

 

Illinois shouldn't be favored, but them being favored speaks volumes as to how 'good' Wisconsin is, or is perceived to be. Wisconsin doesn't have one of the more high powered offenses in the nation, end of discussion. BTW, 14 straight wins has NOTHING to do with how good of a team you are right here, right now. Really, only the past 5 games mean anything. Do we look at Illinois' Big Ten record as being 4-30 in the last 34 (I think that's what it is?) or do we look at it as 2-0 this year? Because a 4-30 Big Ten record really, really, really, really sucks. However I don't believe this season's Illinois squad really, really, really, really sucks.

 

I don't even think we'll win Saturday. BTW, where did Zook say he thought Wisky would win Saturday? Please show me. You are putting words in his mouth over who he thinks should be on what side of the betting line. This is getting hilarious now.

Edited October 3, 2007 by IlliniKrush

[thedoctor]

man, to hell with the game saturday. i think we should just let krush and badger brawl. way to bring it, fellas! you got your gameday form on tuesday. mass kudos.

[WHarris1]

Seriously is it f***ing Saturday yet? holy s*** i cant wait to get down there again

Edited October 3, 2007 by WHarris1

[RockRaines]

Neither OSU or Wisco should be ranked that highly, at all. None of the teams in the big ten are very "good." Buts thats the way that the rankings have shaken out so far, but they wont end up that way.

 

s***, Purdue may end up winning the Big Ten for all we know.

[Jenksismyhero]

Neither OSU or Wisco should be ranked that highly, at all. None of the teams in the big ten are very "good." Buts thats the way that the rankings have shaken out so far, but they wont end up that way.

 

s***, Purdue may end up winning the Big Ten for all we know.

 

 

Except that OSU is good. They beat a Washington team, at Washington, with relative ease, the same Washington team that nearly beat USC. I guess then you could say that USC isn't very good, but with that logic no one in college football will be good.

 

This is the problem with polls. There should be no polls until week 5 or 6 - sometime in the middle of the season when the cupcake games are over and everyone starts conference play.

[RockRaines]

Except that OSU is good. They beat a Washington team, at Washington, with relative ease, the same Washington team that nearly beat USC. I guess then you could say that USC isn't very good, but with that logic no one in college football will be good.

 

This is the problem with polls. There should be no polls until week 5 or 6 - sometime in the middle of the season when the cupcake games are over and everyone starts conference play.

Remember this is coming from an OSU fan. The victory over Wash was a better win than most people thought, but its a different game than an in-conference match up with USC. Our defense is actually better than some people think as our yards per point is better than any of the teams since 2002 that we have had. OUr offense is decent with a good running game and two good receivers with a wild card in Ray Small. Little known fact is that this team ALREADY has more plays over 20 yards than the 2006 buckeyes team had with its explosive offense. With all that said, I still dont think that we are as good as the #4 team in the nation. The big ten is a bit down this year IMO, and OSU had to basically reload half their starters, including 8 first team all big ten players.

 

But watch out in a few years when Beanie Wells gets to run behind the much hyped young offensive line. Add Saine to that list and you have a ridiculous potential for a dominant running game.

Edited October 3, 2007 by RockRaines

[Jenksismyhero]

And for the Wisky - Illini talk, here's my opinion (from an Illini fan).

 

Wisky is overrated. Period. A #5 team in the nation should be stomping all over people on the field. At this point Wisky has barely survived games, at home, against mediocre teams. Michigan State is an average team. Iowa is an average team. Now, having said that, they are no cupcake. They're a good football team. Probably one of the better teams in the Big Ten. But lets call a spade a spade; they are not one of the top 5 teams in the country.

 

As for Illinois, I'm excited, but I'm guarded. As much as I enjoyed the Penn St victory, Penn St really lost that game more than Illinois won it. I know the defense "stepped up" and made some big plays, but some terrible QB play cost Penn St the game. The offense was completely shut down in the 2nd half and Penn St could not be stopped. Take away one or two of the fantastic interceptions (by vontae and leman) and Illinois loses. Even going back to the Indiana game if a play or two turns out differently we don't win that game either. The team is obviously much improved and you can tell that the mentality of the program has changed from "oh god these guys in div 1 are big" to "we can hang with anyone."

 

So on to Saturday. Illinois wins if the play calling is in a 1-3 option ratio. Every third play must have the option. It's an unstoppable play. No defense in the country can stop either Juice, Mendenhall or Benn over the course of the game. Secondly, Juice can't have a crappy game. I'll be honest in that i'm beginning to lose faith in the kid. He's Sexy Rexy of the Illini except for the fact that he can run. He has shown a great ability to escape pressure and make a play, but he doesn't have much touch on his throws nor any accuracy to make ordinary throws (except for the outs and slants). Therefore he must manage the game and not screw it up for the rest of the team. Thirdly, the defense has to contine to play the "bend not break" style it has all season. It's going to give up yards but it needs to continue to make the big plays to stop drives. This is my biggest concern. If there's one positive about Wisky - their offense doesn't make too many stupid mistakes. It's their defense that is holding them back.

 

As much as I love where the Illini are headed, I see them losing this game in a shoot out. Something like 30-34 Wisky. Illinois won't be able to stop the offense all day and Illinois' offense will go cold in the 2nd half (mainly due to some piss poor play calling, like in the Penn St game where we decided "hey this option play where we average about 15 yards per play is boring us, lets switch to pass plays that we can't do).

[Soxbadger]

Illinikrush,

 

I dont even know where to begin, youve stretched my argument to parts that I never have even said.

 

I said that I thought the game would be high scoring and that in the end Illinois would most likely not be able to stop Wisconsin as consistently as Wisconsin can stop Illinois.

 

How the hell is that being a homer?

 

That is just watching the games and having a feeling for what is going to go on. I feel that Wisconsin has one of the best offenses, and could score many more points, but most of the time they are just happy grinding it out and playing time of possession. You can disagree on Wisconsin being one of the top offense's, there is no problem with that, the season will play out, one of us will be right, and one of us will be wrong.

 

The problem I have is that when you come in here and start trying to personally insult me and constantly misquote me to try and make my argument weaker, it is just annoying. I dont mind talking about football and really I dont think that Wisconsin will win this game no questions asked.

 

I never said Wisconsin is a GREAT team, I said that they were deserving of the 5 ranking because they have done nothing to lose that ranking. By the end of the season if they still are undefeated they will have been a GREAT team regardless of how close these games were, because no one will care. If they are not a great team, then they will lose a few games to OSU, PSU, Michigan, Illinois, etc, and these games will show that Wisconsin was just beating on weaker teams.

 

But at 5 games into the season, its impossible to really say any of those things, so I guess I just go based on this:

 

Like it or not, the past does matter. Its not like this Illini team is not playing players from last year, or the year before. And its not like Wisconsin is playing a brand new team, the fact that Wisconsin has consistently won more games and played in more pressure situations will help them on Saturday. Experience does matter, hence why all things being equal I would take the program who over the last 5 years has been head and shoulders better, who was ranked in the top 10 to start the season, who hasnt lost in almost a year.

 

I guess those are my homer reasons as to why I think that Wisconsin will win in a close one.

 

/lol

 

And I said that about Zook to show that he agrees that Illinois should not be favored. And you keep harping on why Wisconsin must be bad because they arent favored, when even your coach disagrees with that statement.

 

Jenks,

 

I think even more important for Illinois is to run WR screen to Benn and other plays that get your most talented players into open space. Against MSU, Wisconsin put on the worst tackling performance that I have ever seen, and it has happened in other games where a LB has had to run down a RB because of blown tackles in the secondary. Wisconsin does not play press coverage, they give generally 10 yards, if they play this way against Illinois it is going to be a long day on defense. Wisconsin has not really seen the option this year, I always have hated it as a fan because I used to dislike Nebraska, but I also know that its pretty tough to stop. Wisconsin has shown little discipline, so that is some what scary. Wisconsin has faster LB's than PSU, but they are not as strong or polished, so not sure whether thats a good thing or bad thing.

 

What I would love to see out of Wisconsin (and they wont) is for them to come out in a 4-6, with cb's pressed and a lb or safety shading Benn. I would want to force Illinois to beat Wisconsin through the air, especially down field.