WHarris1 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Had to know there was no way Hawaii would lose this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 03:02 AM) Had to know there was no way Hawaii would lose this game They got a little help on that third down call. No penalty, and Washington was in FG range and could start running time off the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 God I f***ing hate everything about Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Well if today taught you anything, it is this: Don't play anybody. Kansas did it and is going to be rewarded with a BCS bid, Ohio State did it and is going to be #1 tomorrow, and Hawaii did it and it is going to send a team that would go 7-5, 8-4 at best in a BCS league to a BCS game without a loss. Gotta love this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Washington with 4 chances to send this to OT.. Stupid first down call. Gotta burn the TO. :12 left, hopefully enough for three plays (maybe not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Fark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 f*** HAWAII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Still dreaming of Roses though, cmon Rose Bowl committee preserve the tradition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 HAHA, that ending is why Hawaii has no buisness in a BCS game. I hope they enjoying their ass widening from whatever vastly superior team they play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 03:17 AM) Still dreaming of Roses though, cmon Rose Bowl committee preserve the tradition It's virtually assured.... Their other choices are ASU (they don't want a Pac 10 conference game), Hawaii (No chance), Kansas (Hawaii of the midwest), WVU (coming off a loss to Wanny). The only danger is if UGa is in the championship. OSU will be one, giving Rose the first replacement pick... and the most lucrative matchup would be LSU-USC, which might be better than the championship game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Ahhhhhhhhhhh I feel like my f***ing head will explode if I get to sit in the Rose Bowl and watch Illinois actually play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) I can't decide what Hawaii win impresses me most vs. FCS Northern Colorado (who went 1-11): 63-6 at 5-7 Louisiana Tech: 45-44 at 2-10 UNLV: 49-14 vs. FCS Charleston Southern (who went 5-6): 66-10 at 1-11 Idaho: 48-10 vs. 2-10 Utah State: 52-37 at 5-7 San Jose State: 42-35 in OT vs. 4-9 New Mexico State: 50-13 vs. 8-4 Fresno State: 37-30 at 6-6 Nevada: 28-26 vs. 10-2 Boise State: 39-27 vs. 4-9 Washington: 35-28 Joliet Catholic would have probably gone 10-2 with that schedule, although I give them credit for escaping against Boise and Fresno, only since they got to play them on the island. The fact this team is in the BCS is a classic reason why the BCS should cease to exist. Edited December 2, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:24 AM) It's virtually assured.... Their other choices are ASU (they don't want a Pac 10 conference game), Hawaii (No chance), Kansas (Hawaii of the midwest), WVU (coming off a loss to Wanny). The only danger is if UGa is in the championship. OSU will be one, giving Rose the first replacement pick... and the most lucrative matchup would be LSU-USC, which might be better than the championship game) Yeah, and UGa is out since they were not even in the SEC Title game. Illinois is in the Rose Bowl, it's just a shame that it has to be sweated out like this due to the joke that is Hawaii (and to a lesser extent, Kansas). Edited December 2, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) What the BCS SHOULD look like (keeping with the rules of course) National Championship-LSU vs. Ohio St. Orange-Va. Tech vs. W. Virginia Sugar-Georgia vs. Missouri Fiesta-Oklahoma vs. Hawaii Rose-USC vs. Illinois It looks like KU is gonna get the nod over Mizzou, which is a joke. I like the old system better, with one less BCS bowl. IMO it's too watered down now. No offense Illini fans, but you guys don't really deserve to be in a BCS bowl with three losses, same with Hawaii. Granted this is a weak year, but still. Edited December 2, 2007 by WhiteSoxfan1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocking Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 No love for Hawai'i, weak. Mainlanders, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 01:58 AM) I'm in favor of a playoff, but an 8 team playoff this year would still have Mizzou on the outside looking in.... It doesn't fix the problem you're complaining about. Mizzou would drop from 1 to outside the top 8? Really? I would hope people have some logic and keep them ahead of Kansas in the polls since there is absolutely no way to justify Kansas. What is the BCS' attraction to Kansas ahead of Missouri anyway? There is no reason they would feel obligated to pick them. Both schools are the same size and have similar history so there is no advantage to picking Kansas financially. I don't see how you can justify Kansas, or why bowls would feel compelled to take them. On the plus side a BCS official said that after beating Kansas, Missouri would probably get in with a loss in the Big 12 game, so we'll see. Funny thing is (and maybe I only see this because of bias) I still think Missouri has a better resume than Ohio State. Mizzou lost to one team and beat the team that Ohio State lost to. Ohio State didn't play anyone all year (Michigan isn't that good, didn't play Wisconsin). I can't argue with them going to the title game, but they still didn't prove a thing this year. Oh well, stupid BCS this year. No one should be national champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 I just want IU to go to the Champs Sports or Insight Bowl. And with everything that happened today, that's all but assured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 04:39 AM) Mizzou would drop from 1 to outside the top 8? Really? I would hope people have some logic and keep them ahead of Kansas in the polls since there is absolutely no way to justify Kansas. What is the BCS' attraction to Kansas ahead of Missouri anyway? There is no reason they would feel obligated to pick them. Both schools are the same size and have similar history so there is no advantage to picking Kansas financially. I don't see how you can justify Kansas, or why bowls would feel compelled to take them. On the plus side a BCS official said that after beating Kansas, Missouri would probably get in with a loss in the Big 12 game, so we'll see. Funny thing is (and maybe I only see this because of bias) I still think Missouri has a better resume than Ohio State. Mizzou lost to one team and beat the team that Ohio State lost to. Ohio State didn't play anyone all year (Michigan isn't that good, didn't play Wisconsin). I can't argue with them going to the title game, but they still didn't prove a thing this year. Oh well, stupid BCS this year. No one should be national champs. I am still holding out hope for the possibility that logic rules out and Mizzou drops, but not behind Kansas. I really think Kansas will drop this week, too. Let's just hope the committee realizes what a travesty it would be to pick Kansas over Mizzou when Kansas played nobody, Mizzou lost to one team who defensively is as talented as any team in the country minus USC and the biggest fact that Mizzou BEAT Kansas. Let's just pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:24 AM) It's virtually assured.... Their other choices are ASU (they don't want a Pac 10 conference game), Hawaii (No chance), Kansas (Hawaii of the midwest), WVU (coming off a loss to Wanny). The only danger is if UGa is in the championship. OSU will be one, giving Rose the first replacement pick... and the most lucrative matchup would be LSU-USC, which might be better than the championship game) What's preventing the Rose Bowl from picking Georgia instead of Illinois?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm not a Hawaii fan by any means, but how can Kansas be ranked higher than Hawaii? At least Hawaii beat the top 20 team they played (Boise State). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Guys let's remember one thing about the BCS. It's sole purpose when it was created was to put the two best teams in the Championship game, that's it. It was never designed to make sure the #6 team gets rewarded with a BCS bowl appearance. They have tweaked the system in the past years to help make it more balanced and to give the non-BCS schools a chance to be involved (and keep the government out of it), but the bottom line is those matchups are not the main purpose of the BCS. While some may argue, I think after everything that has happened, that OSU and LSU are the two most deserving teams. There are no great teams this year. None. So you take the best two of the survivors of a really strange season. The season was nuts, but I think the BCS worked again. There are no real strong arguments out there for any teams other than LSU and OSU to be in the title game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 10:51 AM) What's preventing the Rose Bowl from picking Georgia instead of Illinois?? Tradition, power and money. I would be SHOCKED if the Rose picked an equally qualified Georgia team over Illinois. Yeah, Georgia lost 2, Illinois lost three. Illinois has the best win of anyone in the country, a win AT the home of the for sure lock team for the NC. Personally though, I don't see why Oklahoma can't jump to the NC game. They won their conference championship, have played well, just pounded the #1 team. They have two bad losses, just like LSU has two bad losses to Kentucky and Arkansas. Don't give me this crap about them beating 6 ranked teams - we all know the SEC was overrated and ranked based on reputation, not what was on the field. Moreover, they needed last second trick plays and overtime to win some of those. Georgia in the NC game would be a joke - a team that not only didn't win their conference championship but also a team that didn't win their own division. Honestly I'd like to see Virginia Tech against OSU too. Something different. I'm so tired of OSU and LSU. We just saw that what, two years ago? This is why the system is so messed up. Too many teams to choose from, and someone is going to get screwed. If we had an 8 team playoff, we could rank the top 8 teams that deserve to be there and have them play it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Illinois to the Rose Bowl? I don't know about that one but there is not a lot of other options I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 The pasadena trip will probably put me in the poor house, but I feel like I have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm not saying that the Rose won't pick Illinois, but a Georgia - USC matchup is a lot more intriguing than Illinois - USC. I think when all is said and done, the Rose will stick with tradition, but there is nothing forcing them to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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