Official College Football Thread

[RockRaines]

I don't think anyone is trying to say that that single play is why they lost the game. But they were not dominated, they played uncharacteristically bad for them which was supported by the sarcastic post that talk about how the high powered illinois offense dominated an exposed an obviously overrated defense. Of course this was not the case as a defensed played the worst they have all season, and the most efficient qb in the big ten threw 3 unforced picks. It happens, upsets happen. Illinois fans should be proud their team played about as perfect as they could play, but its hard to deny they need osu to play horribly to eeck out a win. The blown call, and overall poor officiating was one of those factors but not the factor. Lotf things need to happen for an upset to happen, and it did.

[thedoctor]

in the fourth quarter, i think ohio state was dominated. i think the definition of domination is you know what the other team is going to do and still can't stop them from doing it. that's what happened in the fourth quarter.

 

for the rest of the time, it was a great game, and one that could have gone in the other direction of other variables went in different ways. but, they didn't. illinois played it's best game, ohio state didn't, and that was pretty much that.

 

good luck to osu the rest of the way. beat michigan.

[RockRaines]

in the fourth quarter, i think ohio state was dominated. i think the definition of domination is you know what the other team is going to do and still can't stop them from doing it. that's what happened in the fourth quarter.

 

for the rest of the time, it was a great game, and one that could have gone in the other direction of other variables went in different ways. but, they didn't. illinois played it's best game, ohio state didn't, and that was pretty much that.

 

good luck to osu the rest of the way. beat michigan.

Dude, you are also an OSU fan, why are you wishing "them" good luck.

 

And to be clear, I was joking about the pic. I honestly knew this was a trap game, and it ended up that way. I really thought we were going to end up somewhere around 25-20 in the rankings this year. PLus I made an absolute killing betting on ILL last sat.

[thedoctor]

Dude, you are also an OSU fan, why are you wishing "them" good luck.

 

And to be clear, I was joking about the pic. I honestly knew this was a trap game, and it ended up that way. I really thought we were going to end up somewhere around 25-20 in the rankings this year. PLus I made an absolute killing betting on ILL last sat.

 

i hear ya. i do normally root for osu, but my illinois loyalty comes first and i was in the stadium in orange saturday. this week has me all discombobulated when it comes to my fandoms.

 

and i do know you were joking on posting the video. no worries, there.

[Heads22]

Beat Kansas.

[greasywheels121]

Beat Kansas.

 

And Purdue.

[RockRaines]

i hear ya. i do normally root for osu, but my illinois loyalty comes first and i was in the stadium in orange saturday. this week has me all discombobulated when it comes to my fandoms.

 

and i do know you were joking on posting the video. no worries, there.

Traitor, I hope they dont let your ass in Thurmans anymore.

[Jenksismyhero]

Ok, I'm going to chime in on the OSU-ILL game -

 

To those that think the fumble was an absolute blown call (in that OSU didn't get the ball), please read the rule book:

 

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2006/200...tball_rules.pdf

 

Ball Out of Bounds

ARTICLE 3a. A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundry line.

 

Look at the replay - there's no doubt it was a fumble (I suppose technically then a "blown call") but it would not have mattered. As Dufrene fell he was cleary out of bounds and he touched the ball at about the 1 yard line. Even if Tressel had reviewed the play it would have been Illinois ball at the 1 instead of the 3. And I think its a joke if anyone thinks that touchdown would have made the difference. Illinois won the game in 3 quarters of play. They moved the ball ALL GAME LONG against OSU's "impenetrable" defense. There's no way to tell what would have happened, but you can't argue that Illinois would have suddenly stopped moving the ball. It's ridiculous to, as someone else pointed out, conjecture about the last 58 minutes of a game.

 

To the dominating comment -

 

I don't think Illinois dominated in the true sense of the word, but Rock you're essentially saying Illinois got lucky which is complete crap. Yes the played a perfect game, and yes OSU played uncharacterisically bad. But why did they play so bad? Maybe because they actually went up against a good defensive line that applied pressure all game long? How many times did the QB scramble? Didn't he have a career long run and a career rushing day? That's indicative of Illinois' ability to penetrate the line of scrimmage. Your UNforced comment is true only in the sense that no one stripped a ball - but they were all caused by playing good defense and applying pressure on the QB.

 

And really, though they didn't dominate the entire game (because they did give up 3 td drives of 76 yards), there's no question they dominated the 4th quarter. They held the ball over 13 minutes in one quarter. That's sick. And it's not like they got lucky - they ran down the throat for 260 something yards on a defense who averaged only 65 yards per game on the ground. The team knew they were going to run it yet Juice still got first downs on a 3rd and 10, 3rd and 7 and I believe a 3rd and 5.

 

Ohio State got outplayed, outcoached and simply lost the game to a better team on Saturday, period.

Edited November 14, 2007 by Jenksismybitch

[RockRaines]

I don't think Illinois dominated in the true sense of the word, but Rock you're essentially saying Illinois got lucky which is complete crap. Yes the played a perfect game, and yes OSU played uncharacterisically bad. But why did they play so bad? Maybe because they actually went up against a good defensive line that applied pressure all game long? How many times did the QB scramble? Didn't he have a career long run and a career rushing day? That's indicative of Illinois' ability to penetrate the line of scrimmage. Your UNforced comment is true only in the sense that no one stripped a ball - but they were all caused by playing good defense and applying pressure on the QB.

 

And really, though they didn't dominate the entire game (because they did give up 3 td drives of 76 yards), there's no question they dominated the 4th quarter. They held the ball over 13 minutes in one quarter. That's sick. And it's not like they got lucky - they ran down the throat for 260 something yards on a defense who averaged only 65 yards per game on the ground. The team knew they were going to run it yet Juice still got first downs on a 3rd and 10, 3rd and 7 and I believe a 3rd and 5.

 

Ohio State got outplayed, outcoached and simply lost the game to a better team on Saturday, period.

Oh Jeez. Just when everyone stopped. You really really think ILL is the better team? You really do?

 

Illinois ranks 8th in the Big Ten in total offense. You really think that ILL's powerhouse offense just overwhelmed the best defense in country unlike the 5 better offensive teams in the big ten that OSU beat and beat badly? You think that Ill's defense was just so overpowering for OSU that the QB with the highest rating in the big ten couldnt handle it?

 

Come on man. Ill played about the best they can play and OSU had their worst game of the season. Bar none, they both play their game, OSU wins big. They didnt, and some of the reason is that ILL game planned very well for them, but alot of it was their personal errors and coaching on both ends of the field. Im sorry if you feel that is a negative comment towards ILL, but frankly they won, and they get bragging rights. But I dont think there are many people around the country who will make a mistake and say that the best team won.

[CanOfCorn]

Oh Jeez. Just when everyone stopped. You really really think ILL is the better team? You really do?

 

Illinois ranks 8th in the Big Ten in total offense. You really think that ILL's powerhouse offense just overwhelmed the best defense in country unlike the 5 better offensive teams in the big ten that OSU beat and beat badly? You think that Ill's defense was just so overpowering for OSU that the QB with the highest rating in the big ten couldnt handle it?

 

Come on man. Ill played about the best they can play and OSU had their worst game of the season. Bar none, they both play their game, OSU wins big. They didnt, and some of the reason is that ILL game planned very well for them, but alot of it was their personal errors and coaching on both ends of the field. Im sorry if you feel that is a negative comment towards ILL, but frankly they won, and they get bragging rights. But I dont think there are many people around the country who will make a mistake and say that the best team won.

 

Illinois has played OSU tough the past, what, 5 years? There is no way that OSU wins big. They would probably win, but not big. What happened last year? 17-10. That's what. Sorry Rock, but I honestly think that OSU would have won, but they would have squeeked by, like they have in the past. Some teams have a nemesis, a team they find it very hard to beat, and for OSU, it's Illinois.

[Jenksismyhero]

No no, I said best team on Saturday - I'd give the edge to OSU in a best of 5 series, but only slightly. They played them well last year too, against a better OSU team. Again, I think you underestimate how good Illinois' defense played. It's not like OSU just made stupid mistakes - they were forced into making mistakes and when they needed to make a stop they couldn't. And Illinois has a top 5 rushing attack in the country. They smacked around the top rushing defense for 4 quarters.

 

I know that most OSU fans think they got screwed and think Illinosi got lucky. I'm just glad the national perception was, yeah, you can consider it an upset because an unranked team beat the #1 team at home. But OSU didn't lose the game, OSU wasn't looking ahead to Michigan - they flat out got beat.

[RockRaines]

Illinois has played OSU tough the past, what, 5 years? There is no way that OSU wins big. They would probably win, but not big. What happened last year? 17-10. That's what. Sorry Rock, but I honestly think that OSU would have won, but they would have squeeked by, like they have in the past. Some teams have a nemesis, a team they find it very hard to beat, and for OSU, it's Illinois.

Ok, I agree on the wins big, in fact I wasnt aware I was typing that. Considering I bet on ILL, and won pretty big, I obviously didnt think that way. But they are the better team, and flat out got beat. It happens, and in no way am I trying to discredit the performance by ILL.

Edited November 14, 2007 by RockRaines

[Jenksismyhero]

lol, and with that said OSU better beat UM because I want ILL in a new years day bowl.

[RockRaines]

lol, and with that said OSU better beat UM because I want ILL in a new years day bowl.

On that topic, did anyone see the Michigan v OSU documentary on HBO last night. It was amazingly done, but left out a great chunk of some of the late 90's teams highlights and coaching stories. Lloyd Carr wasnt even mentioned. Great show though, had me in goosebumps.

[thedoctor]

On that topic, did anyone see the Michigan v OSU documentary on HBO last night. It was amazingly done, but left out a great chunk of some of the late 90's teams highlights and coaching stories. Lloyd Carr wasnt even mentioned. Great show though, had me in goosebumps.

 

i actually did a little job-related production work on that documentary here in columbus prior to last year's osu-meatchicken game. you had a sense that they were on to something really good.

 

i haven't seen it yet, but those who do have great praise for how it turned out.

[Heads22]

Two Hawk football players under investigation for sexual assault.

[Nokona]

Two Hawk football players under investigation for sexual assault.

 

Everson and Satterfield have not dressed and Ferentz has said they are not in "good standing" for a month now.

[Heads22]

I messed up. It's actually three, and the rumor is that DJK might be one of the guys involved.

[danman31]

[danman31]

Dennis Dixon is out @ Arizona. He ran for a long TD on the first drive, but got hurt in Oregon's 3rd drive. ESPN is saying something knee and he's out for the game. I'm thinking (and Flutie said this too) that he's out for more than this game if they are declaring him out already.

 

11-10 Oregon (they went for 2 and got it on first TD)

 

Go Wildcats, though I feel bad now.

[IlliniKrush]

I turned it on for one play, and their backup qb threw a pick 6. Thanks for the injury update dan, i was just going to ask wtf happened.

[IlliniKrush]

31-11 Zona 5:30 2nd quarter

 

Big 12, your table is ready.

[Rowand44]

Zona's students are morons.

[Heads22]

There's gonna be a lot of Iowa State fans on Saturday.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Really sucks that an injury looks like it might have decided the Heisman and the National Title game... I'm no Oregon fan, but you hate to see things end up that way.

 

So what's the Pac-10 tie breaker like? Winner of ASU/USC to the Rose Bowl... Or is it ASU or OU to the Rose bowl since USC has been there most recently?