whitesoxfan101 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) I honestly think if after Owens reached on the gift dropped 3rd strike, Ozzie could have called time, went out on the field, told Borowski and Martinez that Owens was running on the 1st pitch, and he'd have STILL stolen 2nd base pretty easily. It's bad enough to give a pitcher as bad as Joe Borowski a free out, but AT LEAST take the easy stolen base off the worst defensive catcher in the game before you do it. That way, the bunt gets Owens to 3rd and Thome's just missed it flyout to right field ties the game. What a concept!! I mean come on, Owens stole 2nd on the first pitch earlier, Pods stole 2nd on the 1st pitch earlier, they both were safe by a mile, AND that was off Jack Westbrook, who has a far, far better pickoff move than Joe Blow. Ozzie should be glad we suck and that the newspaper writers here never ask him a tough question, because that was epic work in the bottom of the 9th last night. Edited August 8, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 *sigh* It amazes me how smart we all are around here. We'd be 162+11=173-0 EVERY YEAR with the brain power we have here at soxtalk. Then baseball would be boring because we'd win every single game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 And Victor Martinez has improved dramatically in throwing out basestealers this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 A runner in scoring position with Thome, Konerko, and Pierzynski coming up vs. a very hittable closer. All three failed to drive in the run. That's where the fault lies. If Owens had been caught stealing it would have been another complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan77 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 They scored 1 run against a guy who has an ERA in the 5's before the start of the game.. hitting in a hitters park... To blame one play for lack of hitting is just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I know I'm gonna get strafed for this but again last night it happened. Does Thome ever drive people in in the clutch? This is getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxPride56 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 10:31 AM) I know I'm gonna get strafed for this but again last night it happened. Does Thome ever drive people in in the clutch? This is getting old. I am with you man! His act is getting pretty old. But there is nothing like the solo home run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 09:31 AM) I know I'm gonna get strafed for this but again last night it happened. Does Thome ever drive people in in the clutch? This is getting old. If you get strafed, it's the straffers that will look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Frankly I thought that we executed perfectly with the middle of the order coming up. If he got thrown out trying to steal would you have created the thread for Ozzie sending him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 03:31 PM) I know I'm gonna get strafed for this but again last night it happened. Does Thome ever drive people in in the clutch? This is getting old. I haven't seen it much except for the first couple months last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 03:39 PM) Frankly I thought that we executed perfectly with the middle of the order coming up. If he got thrown out trying to steal would you have created the thread for Ozzie sending him? Exactly. I get sick of all this MMQB s*** around here. Out of all of them, there might have been about twice that it was legit this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 09:40 AM) Exactly. I get sick of all this MMQB s*** around here. Out of all of them, there might have been about twice that it was legit this season. Have you tried a stronger dose of Midol...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) Have you they tried a stronger dose of Midol...? Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Heck...watching that 9th inning yesterday...I'm still having trouble believing that a saw a Sox player get down a successful Sac. bunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxPride56 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(juddling @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 10:46 AM) Heck...watching that 9th inning yesterday...I'm still having trouble believing that a saw a Sox player get down a successful Sac. bunt. LOL, thats true. That wasn't the first time Josh has done that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 09:46 AM) Fixed that for you. It's ok if you do it. If I do it there'd be a b**** fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 03:53 PM) It's ok if you do it. If I do it there'd be a b**** fest. That's because you know everything. Ms. know-it-all. (This post is not green). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 10:39 AM) Frankly I thought that we executed perfectly with the middle of the order coming up. If he got thrown out trying to steal would you have created the thread for Ozzie sending him? Of course he would have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(SoxPride56 @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 10:36 AM) I am with you man! His act is getting pretty old. But there is nothing like the solo home run. Thome is second in the AL in OBP and he hits with power. Yeah, his act is getting really old. They need to bring in someone who never gets on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I kind of agree with whitesoxfan101 on this one though. I would have had Owens running as well on Martinez. Sox already had two SB on him and IIRC neither throw was close to getting the runner. Plus the fact it was a night where the Sox hitters weren't hitting a 'hittable' pitcher in Westbrook. They only manage two hits all night...if Owens could get 2B. They could have tied the game without a hit. just a couple sac flies and it's a new ball game. I think the odds were in the Sox favor when it came to stealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) Thome is second in the AL in OBP and he hits with power. Yeah, his act is getting really old. They need to bring in someone who never gets on base. What is is OBP with runners in scoring position compared to with no runners on? Can someone help me out with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(juddling @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 03:57 PM) I kind of agree with whitesoxfan101 on this one though. I would have had Owens running as well on Martinez. Sox already had two SB on him and IIRC neither throw was close to getting the runner. Plus the fact it was a night where the Sox hitters weren't hitting a 'hittable' pitcher in Westbrook. They only manage two hits all night...if Owens could get 2B. They could have tied the game without a hit. just a couple sac flies and it's a new ball game. I think the odds were in the Sox favor when it came to stealing. You can guess all night long, but if they pitch out and nail his ass, we would see threads about why "GUILLEN DIDN'T SACRIFICE OMG LOLZ!1!!1!!!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) you're right (though it wouldn't be a post from me)....but personally i think Ozzie screwed the pooch on this one Edited August 8, 2007 by juddling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 QUOTE(juddling @ Aug 8, 2007 -> 09:57 AM) I kind of agree with whitesoxfan101 on this one though. I would have had Owens running as well on Martinez. Sox already had two SB on him and IIRC neither throw was close to getting the runner. Plus the fact it was a night where the Sox hitters weren't hitting a 'hittable' pitcher in Westbrook. They only manage two hits all night...if Owens could get 2B. They could have tied the game without a hit. just a couple sac flies and it's a new ball game. I think the odds were in the Sox favor when it came to stealing. And if he'd gotten caught there would have been holy hell to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Ozzie makes the call, but I also wondered why he didn't try and steal before bunting, especially considering how bad the hitters looked all night. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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