WHITE SOX WINNER

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FIELDS

 

JAVY

 

DYE

 

MACDOUGAL

 

JENKS!

[Guest]

And just like that, the young Bobby Jenks has his name in the record books forever.

 

On a side note, the rest of our pen has been outstanding of late.

[Brian]

If Jeff Joniak was announcing, he would say "Bobby Jenks, you are ridiculous!"

[DrunkBomber]

Congrats to Jenks, thats an amazing accomplishment.

[Kalapse]

So next year's pen looks like what right now?

 

CL: Jenks

SU: MacDougal

SU: Thornton?

MR: Logan

MR: Wasserman

MR: Bukvich

MR: Free Agent?

 

With Masset and Aardsma out of options so who knows.

[SoxAce]

Your the man Bobby. Fields, your going to be a monster.

[SoxAce]

MR: Bukvich

 

I miss that puke button, but somehow he's getting people out so maybe I'll warm up even though he is teh sucky.

[witesoxfan]

I am still a Havy Jomer

[southsideirish71]

He might not be throwing 100, but Bobby is becoming a more complete closer. If he ever gets his triple digits again, it just wont be fair to the hitters.

 

Just have yourself a day Josh Fields. Nice job Kid.

 

Nice job Vazquez.

 

And nice job Pen overall.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

the thing i like about bukvich is he's a big man with a fear factor for those batters to think about. he can throw a solid fastball in the low 90's consistnetly, so why not? Thornton and MacDougal are too talented to leave out of the pen. So there's 4 guys with the perenial All Star Bobby Jenks. Believe it or not, I like this Wasserman kid. He's earned his stripes the right way, from the bottom up. So that's 5 and hopefully, KW makes a nice dip in the free agent pool to bring us a proven reliever.

 

Fields is a MONSTER. he's obviously too good to not be playing every day next year. If Pods wants to be a 4th OF, so be it. Fields in Left with Crede at 3B would be ridONKulous.

Edited August 11, 2007 by DonnyDevito

[Kalapse]

the thing i like about bukvich is he's a big man with a fear factor for those batters to think about. he can throw a solid fastball in the low 90's consistnetly, so why not? Thornton and MacDougal are too talented to leave out of the pen. So there's 4 guys with the perenial All Star Bobby Jenks. Believe it or not, I like this Wasserman kid. He's earned his stripes the right way, from the bottom up. So that's 5 and hopefully, KW makes a nice dip in the free agent pool to bring us a proven reliever.

Like who? Just curious who you're thinking about.

 

RELIEF PITCHERS:

1.) Scott Linebrink   31

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2.) Joe Kennedy       29

3.) Joe Beimel        31

4.) Jorge Julio       29

5.) Aaron Fultz       33       '08 TO worth $1.5M or $150K BO

6.) David Riske       31       '08 TO

7.) Byung-Hyun Kim    29

8.) Joel Piniero      29       '08 MO

9.) Trever Miller     35

10.) Luis Vizcaino    33

11.) Joe Borowski     37       '08 TO worth $4M or $250K BO

12.) LaTroy Hawkins   35       '08 MO worth $3.75M or $250K BO

13.) Julian Tavarez   35       [bORAS CLIENT]

14.) Rob. Hernandez   43       '08 TO worth $3.7M or $200K BO

15.) Scott Williamson 32

16.) Mike Myers       37

17.) Ryan Franklin    35

18.) Octavio Dotel    34

19.) Ron Mahay        36

20.) Kerry Wood       31

21.) Jon Lieber       38

22.) Elmer Dessens    37

23.) Chris Reitsma    30      '08 TO worth $2.7M or $700K

24.) Eddie Guardado   37      '08 TO worth $3M

25.) Daren Oliver     37      '08 TO worth $2M or $250K BO

OTHERS: Alfonseca, Carrasco, DeJean, Mesa, Timlin, Witasik, King, Romero, Villone 

[Guest]

I wouldn't mind bringing Vizcaino back or bringing in a player like Scott Williamson.

[max power]

I wouldn't mind seeing david riske back here.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

How long has Dye had the high socks? I just noticed tonight.

[Balta1701]

I wouldn't mind seeing david riske back here.

I would much rather see some mix of Aardsma, Masset, Haeger, or something like that. Quite a bit more talent in those guys than in Riske, just need to develop them. And quite a bit cheaper.

 

And...imagine if Riske goes Type A again this year like he did last year, and somehow we wind up with the 16th pick because of a few more down-the-stretch wins. Would you give up the 16th pick in the draft for Riske? I sure wouldn't.

[EvilJester99]

Glad to see the bullpen really starting to turn it around...among others

[max power]

And...imagine if Riske goes Type A again this year like he did last year, and somehow we wind up with the 16th pick because of a few more down-the-stretch wins. Would you give up the 16th pick in the draft for Riske? I sure wouldn't.

No, I definitely wouldn't.

[DBAHO]

I miss that puke button, but somehow he's getting people out so maybe I'll warm up even though he is teh sucky.

It might be a fluke considering his history, but anyone who has a 3.16 ERA in our pen probably deserves a place in this bullpen considering how bad it's been this season.

 

Still with a WHIP of 1.48 and a BAA of .265, I doubt it's sustainable, especially when he doesn't K a lot of hitters either.

[EvilJester99]

I wouldn't mind actually taking a shot on Latroy Hawkins....if he could regain that form he has with Minny or close to it,he would be a big improvment. Plus he would only have to worry about being a set up man instead of anything else.

[Frankensteiner]

I look at the Mariners and think: Smoke & Mirrors. Outside of Ichiro, I can't even find one above average player. Maybe Jose Guillen? Even King Felix hasn't been all that good (1.40 WHIP).

[TheBigHurt]

Josh F***ING Fields.

Edited August 11, 2007 by TheBigHurt

[ShoeLessRob]

I look at the Mariners and think: Smoke & Mirrors. Outside of Ichiro, I can't even find one above average player. Maybe Jose Guillen? Even King Felix hasn't been all that good (1.40 WHIP).

Beltre, Vidro, Bloomquist, and like you said Guillen are all putting up solid numbers. Then even Johjima and a few others still have high averages with bleh OBP.

[Kalapse]

I look at the Mariners and think: Smoke & Mirrors. Outside of Ichiro, I can't even find one above average player. Maybe Jose Guillen? Even King Felix hasn't been all that good (1.40 WHIP).

Hernandez' ERA is 3.97, if you don't think he's having a good year then I can't imagine what you think of Garland. JJ Putz is probably the best closer in the game right now, Sherrill has been the best setup man in the AL this side of Okajima and the rest of the pen has been stout. On the offensive side I'd certainly call Adrian Beltre's .813 OPS above average especially when you factor in his outstanding defense, Yuniesky Betancourt has been close to league average offensively while playing quite possibly the best defense at short in the game, Johjima is one of the best offensive catchers you're going to find and Jose Guillen has been damn good this year.

 

It's a pretty talented roster that plays some outstanding defense, has a great bullpen and gets some good, timely hitting.

[Frankensteiner]

Beltre, Vidro, Bloomquist, and like you said Guillen are all putting up solid numbers. Then even Johjima and a few others still have high averages with bleh OBP.

 

Only 3 guys have OPS numbers over .800, and it's not by much. Ichiro (.830), Beltre (.814), and Guillen (.814). That's really the mark for good hitters in my eyes.

 

By comparison, Cleveland has 5, Detroit 5, NYY 6, Boston 5. And these teams all have multiple players way above the .800 mark (and not to mention starting pitchers that are much better than the Mariner SPs). I just don't get how Seattle is getting all these wins because they are clearly inferior to the other contenders in individual statistics.

[whitesoxfan101]

Really fun game to watch. I can't decide what the hell I want us to do about Dye this winter, but damn you beast Josh Fields. Also, 2nd straight 7 inning, 3 run outing for Javy. The importance of that is both outings were against very good teams, and Javy didn't have his best stuff in either outing, yet pitched good games both times. That is a great sign, if he can keep finding ways to get outs when he stuff ISN'T there, he's a solid #3, if not borderline #2 starter.