Rex Hudler Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Rex, sorry for getting so wound up about the deal. You have the right to your opinion. Im just really excited. Sorry again. It's okay and no need to be sorry, but just try and look at this objectively and not fall in love with Everett's two big seasons. His production in other years is honestly not much more than I think we could expect from a Harris/Rowand combo. Look at it this way... If you were a team that just traded for Mark Buehrle and you looked at his numbers for this year and didn't know him and his performances like we do, you might just think you got robbed. If you looked into his numbers and saw his last 5 starts, you might just change your mind. Now reverse that situation. What if Buehrle started off hot like he is now and then his last 5 or 10 outings are what has caused his overall numbers to be where there are now. Would you feel good or bad? Now what if Buehrle had a shaky year last year too and was removed 2 years from his actual numbers from the past few years. I know we are talking apples and oranges here, but with some intelligence, I believe it is a fair example. I just don't think Everett measures up. In Alomar's case, I like him more for his "numbers". I like his D, I think his presence on the field will help everyone and if he hits average to good for Robby Alomar, I think we have a guy who could help the team. Am I making any sense here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 It's okay and no need to be sorry, but just try and look at this objectively and not fall in love with Everett's two big seasons. His production in other years is honestly not much more than I think we could expect from a Harris/Rowand combo. Look at it this way... If you were a team that just traded for Mark Buehrle and you looked at his numbers for this year and didn't know him and his performances like we do, you might just think you got robbed. If you looked into his numbers and saw his last 5 starts, you might just change your mind. Now reverse that situation. What if Buehrle started off hot like he is now and then his last 5 or 10 outings are what has caused his overall numbers to be where there are now. Would you feel good or bad? Now what if Buehrle had a shaky year last year too and was removed 2 years from his actual numbers from the past few years. I know we are talking apples and oranges here, but with some intelligence, I believe it is a fair example. I just don't think Everett measures up. In Alomar's case, I like him more for his "numbers". I like his D, I think his presence on the field will help everyone and if he hits average to good for Robby Alomar, I think we have a guy who could help the team. Am I making any sense here?? Dude im not even sure this is a good deal. I dont have the facts. However, i do KNOW its an upgrade at CF, and we got 2 lefty bats we SORELY need. TO me its our only chance. Everything i hated about this team has been eliminated in the past few weeks. Does that mean its going to work out? No, but i think our chances are greatly improved. Sooner or later, Jimenez and Rowand/harris in our lineup would have killed us. I just think our chances are better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Gammons also said that the Sox traded for Russ Ortiz, and we all know how that went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 After watching BBTN, how Gammons said "Neal Cotts is in this trade blah" he was assuming. He's just guessing guys, don't worry just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 After watching BBTN, how Gammons said "Neal Cotts is in this trade blah" he was assuming. He's just guessing guys, don't worry just yet. That is kind of what I guessed as well. With the pools of minor leaguers texas is going to choose from, it sounds like cotts may be involved if texas only takes two players, but not if they take three. That is also just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 The Rangers have a pool of five players to choose three guys. Here is who I THINK is in that pool: Rauch Malone Cotts Munoz West Well, this is me talking out of my ass, but who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 That is kind of what I guessed as well. With the pools of minor leaguers texas is going to choose from, it sounds like cotts may be involved if texas only takes two players, but not if they take three. That is also just a guess. Guess we'll find out in about 15-20 minutes. texas-Anaheim game is in the 9th. Man I love how KW is taking some big risks, but if Wing, Honel or Cotts goes, I'll explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I took this off the Barons web site. Hope it brings us luck in saving Mr. Cotts. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Sorry for pegging my post count, but this pool thing just doesn't sound right to me. The AP is citing a "baseball source" (AHEM GAMMONS AHEM) is saying the Rangers may select 2-3 for Everett. I don't believe a WORD Gammons says, ever, so I'm skeptical. I'm assuming we're going to see Rauch, a bum, and a top-tier prospect go by tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Folks I'm glad we are trying to win the pennant, but you know the Rangers are going to get some prime minor leaguers. KW is not giving up stiffs. Do you think we've become a team like the Yankees that is going to be acquiring most of our starters from other teams in the future? Cause I can guarantee you the Rangers are getting Rauch or Cotts and we will have given up some prime talent today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 You're guaranteeing they gave up Rauch and/or Cotts? How do you know? Is it just a guess? I could be wrong, but I heard differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 You're guaranteeing they gave up Rauch and/or Cotts? How do you know? Is it just a guess? I could be wrong, but I heard differently. for everett? NO f***ING WAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I've heard that one pitcher is from Charlotte, one is a bum, and the other is from Winston-Salem. Don't quote me on that, this is what I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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