WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'd walk Pence right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yost is a piece of crap. Did he really intentionally walk Berkman earlier to get to CLee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'd put Pence on, dude can easily put one through a pulled in infield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ballgame, death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Wow, that sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Fathom, how many games do you think Yost has cost the Brewers this year? Assuming they had an average manager in his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Where the f*** was that 1-2 pitch to Pence? I can't believe they didn't walk Pence, as he has too much speed to hit into a double play anyways. It's hard to tell how many games a manager has cost a team, but his inability to adjust to his players is as bad this year as Ozzie's was last year. His decision to put Counsell at 3rd in the 7th inning cost them the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 19, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) Where the f*** was that 1-2 pitch to Pence? I can't believe they didn't walk Pence, as he has too much speed to hit into a double play anyways. It's hard to tell how many games a manager has cost a team, but his inability to adjust to his players is as bad this year as Ozzie's was last year. His decision to put Counsell at 3rd in the 7th inning cost them the game. I have no idea why they pitched to Pence. And where was Cordero? The guy has pitched 5 f***ing innings in september. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Matt Wise's ERA after the ASB was over 7 coming into this game. There's so much stuff I want to say right now about what I hope happens, but that would probably get me banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 19, 2007 -> 10:35 PM) Matt Wise's ERA after the ASB was over 7 coming into this game. There's so much stuff I want to say right now about what I hope happens, but that would probably get me banned. You can PM it to me if you wanna get it off your chest and I'll play Dr. Phil for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 03:36 AM) You can PM it to me if you wanna get it off your chest and I'll play Dr. Phil for ya. No no, the poor wife hears it. Let's just say it involves the likes of Ron Santo, Carlos Zambrano, every Cubs fan, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I had no idea this guy, in the Linebrink trade, was doing so well. This just pisses me off even more. WHarris...this has the chance to be the worst type of baseball day possible. Cubs win, Sox win, Brewers lose, Az wins, SD loses, Phils lose. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Am I the only one here that isn't worried one bit about the Cubs making the playoffs? Has anybody really watched this team all year? They are so not built for playoff baseball it isn't even funny. They're not at all fundamentally sound. They don't play great, or even good, defense. They struggle to manufacture runs on a consistent basis. They have no speed outside of Theriot. Does anybody really think a starting staff of Zambrano, who's been hit or miss all year, Lilly, a youngster in Rich Hill, and Jason Marquis is a championship caliber rotation? The only reason we're even still talking about the Cubs is because they're in the most pathetic division in baseball. They would've been out of it weeks ago in any other divison. Trust JFL when he says this: the Cubs will be exposed in a big way come playoff time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 19, 2007 -> 10:47 PM) I had no idea this guy, in the Linebrink trade, was doing so well. This just pisses me off even more. WHarris...this has the chance to be the worst type of baseball day possible. Cubs win, Sox win, Brewers lose, Az wins, SD loses, Phils lose. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8076 I have no clue why you would want the Phillies to make the playoffs, that's the one team the Cubs would beat the crap out of in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Rowand, the Phillies offense would murder the Cubs' pitching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 01:37 AM) Rowand, the Phillies offense would murder the Cubs' pitching staff. Maybe, but the Cubs offense would murder that awful pitching staff of the Phillies. The Cubs would win a series against the Phils in the playoffs(and I think at most the Phils could take one game) but the Cubs wouldn't beat any of the other NL contenders. Obviously that's jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 01:36 AM) I have no clue why you would want the Phillies to make the playoffs, that's the one team the Cubs would beat the crap out of in the playoffs. If the Phillies get in, the Cubs face the Mets while Philly plays Arizona. If San Diego gets in, the Cubs face Arizona while the Mets face San Diego. Pretty simple really. Of course, Philly winning the East doesn't help much; thus, fathom and willie are hoping the Mets win it and Philly wins the Wild Card. Edited September 20, 2007 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 19, 2007 -> 08:47 PM) I had no idea this guy, in the Linebrink trade, was doing so well. This just pisses me off even more. WHarris...this has the chance to be the worst type of baseball day possible. Cubs win, Sox win, Brewers lose, Az wins, SD loses, Phils lose. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8076 Hairston hits a 2 out 3 run walkoff for SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 02:16 AM) If the Phillies get in, the Cubs face the Mets while Philly plays Arizona. If San Diego gets in, the Cubs face Arizona while the Mets face San Diego. Pretty simple really. Of course, Philly winning the East doesn't help much; thus, fathom and willie are hoping the Mets win it and Philly wins the Wild Card. Ya, I'm an idiot. Two plus two is hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 06:18 AM) Am I the only one here that isn't worried one bit about the Cubs making the playoffs? Has anybody really watched this team all year? They are so not built for playoff baseball it isn't even funny. They're not at all fundamentally sound. They don't play great, or even good, defense. They struggle to manufacture runs on a consistent basis. They have no speed outside of Theriot. Does anybody really think a starting staff of Zambrano, who's been hit or miss all year, Lilly, a youngster in Rich Hill, and Jason Marquis is a championship caliber rotation? The only reason we're even still talking about the Cubs is because they're in the most pathetic division in baseball. They would've been out of it weeks ago in any other divison. Trust JFL when he says this: the Cubs will be exposed in a big way come playoff time. One of my worries is that in the playoffs, Marmol would be used 2 innings a game. No one touches him, and he might be the most dominant reliever in baseball right now. I also have no faith at all in the offense of the DBacks or Padres to score enough in an extended series to beat them. It would be real nice if Chris Young, the pitcher, could get back to his dominant self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Another inexcusable play I remembered from last night...Yost let Bush hit in the 7th, even though he wasn't starting the inning. Now, the problem I have is that he let him run on the bases instead of putting in a pr for him (with expanded rosters, this should be a no-brainer). Instead, Bush is unable to score on a 2 out double by Dillon on a play that a speedier base runner likely scores on. Just another play in one of the worst managed games in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 01:18 AM) Am I the only one here that isn't worried one bit about the Cubs making the playoffs? Nobody should be worried about them here; the Sox will not have to face them in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 3-0 Braves woo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 20, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) 3-0 Braves woo Let's go Brewers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 I'm sure glad that Damien Miller is still on the Brewers. His .465 OPS since the ASB has just been so valuable to that team. Michael Rivera has more homers than he does since the ASB in only 3 at-bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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