Wanne Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 How friggin embarrassing. I'm officially embarrassed of this team now for the first time ever. Thanks Kenny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I think a lot of people here are happy about it. Not me. I don't really give a s*** about a top ten draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yea, but this team is really close and expects to compete next year. /sarcasm This entire organization is in shambles. As bad as it was this year, Javy, Jenks and Buehrle have been amazing this year. Garland, most often, has been very good. Even with 3 starting pitchers pitching lights out most of the year, this team is still one of the 5 worst in baseball. We haven't won over 4 games in a row all season no matter who was playing/healthy. Our top average hitter is (Of all people) Darrin Erstad. Minnesota and Detroit have faced injuries but manage to avoid last place. This team is loaded with marginal baseball players with a few aging stars sprinkled in. Kenny may try to patch it together with a couple of support players or maybe he'll go out and sign yet another aging 'superstar', but I see no chance the White Sox get back to the top next year. And I don't know if I want to watch pretty much this same plodding team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie's Accent Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Not happy but at least there is no false sense of security from management's perspective. No way they can say "we were close, we just need a few minor changes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(Ozzie's Accent @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 08:42 AM) Not happy but at least there is no false sense of security from management's perspective. No way they can say "we were close, we just need a few minor changes." That is exactly what they are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 hopefully we continue to tank and get the 1st pick in the draft. We can get the best non-boras prospect in the draft! Seriously though, if we get the 1st pick in the draft and we pass on someone like Pedro Alveras, I'll be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 That's ok, we have so many championship pieces in place for next year. /green Just ask Kenny Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I'm kinda over it because we've been bad for so long at this point. But the amazing thing to me is how far we fell from 2005, so fast. With most of the core team intact. I've been used to at least being in second until we inevitably slide in August or September but... dead last? Wow. You wonder how we ever pulled it off in the first place, as crappy as we've been since last July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(max power @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 06:14 AM) I think a lot of people here are happy about it. Not me. I don't really give a s*** about a top ten draft pick. At this point if you are going to suck, at least get a superstar out of it. The last time we sucked like this we picked up Ventura, McDowell and Big Frank. That seemed to work out for us. Those were top ten picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I watched the historical loss last night on WGN. Tired of hearing Hawk carry on about how our hitter "just missed it," or how the young player is going to be a real bnig league star as he gives up 9 hits and some walks in 6 innings or strikes out and a young reliever comes in to blow it again. Puzzling year because we have so much talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 What do you expect from Hawk the Homer? What I wouldn't give to have Stoney & DJ in that booth. What a year this has been though. Worst I can remember in recent history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Well, maybe a dead last finish and a top 5 pick in the draft will get SOMEBODY'S attention. I want no false hope for next year, none. It is awfully embarassing though, so it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 10:58 AM) At this point if you are going to suck, at least get a superstar out of it. The last time we sucked like this we picked up Ventura, McDowell and Big Frank. That seemed to work out for us. Those were top ten picks. I hate the losing ways of the 2007 campaign and can't help but want them to win every time they play, but you make a good point in those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(max power @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 05:14 AM) I think a lot of people here are happy about it. Not me. I don't really give a s*** about a top ten draft pick. I don't think any one is "happy" about it. But, if the Sox are going to suck then they might as well REALLY suck and get a really good high pick. Who would be happy with a 80 win season? Or a 77 win season? I still follow the team and hate every loss and love every win, but with each loss I still think....hmmmm, closer to a really good pick, which will be much better for the Sox (and us) in the long haul. And , while this is embarrassing to be so bad, trust me it's been way worse and more embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 07:57 AM) Yea, but this team is really close and expects to compete next year. /sarcasm This entire organization is in shambles. As bad as it was this year, Javy, Jenks and Buehrle have been amazing this year. Garland, most often, has been very good. Even with 3 starting pitchers pitching lights out most of the year, this team is still one of the 5 worst in baseball. We haven't won over 4 games in a row all season no matter who was playing/healthy. Our top average hitter is (Of all people) Darrin Erstad. Minnesota and Detroit have faced injuries but manage to avoid last place. This team is loaded with marginal baseball players with a few aging stars sprinkled in. Kenny may try to patch it together with a couple of support players or maybe he'll go out and sign yet another aging 'superstar', but I see no chance the White Sox get back to the top next year. And I don't know if I want to watch pretty much this same plodding team next year. I get the impression people still don't realize how many factors will have to come together next season just for us to compete. Yes, "compete" -- a completely subjective term. For us to realisticaly contend for a championship, which is ultimately the goal of baseball, we'll need the stars to align. As with any team looking ahead to October, two of the three divisions of a team need to be stellar: starting rotation, bullpen, offense. I could forsee our rotation possibly coming together, but what's discouraing is even with a decent rotation (such as this season) we're still in last place. You put it together nicely -- this White Sox ballclub isn't talented. It's a collection of marginal talent in a division with more talented teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 07:58 AM) At this point if you are going to suck, at least get a superstar out of it. The last time we sucked like this we picked up Ventura, McDowell and Big Frank. That seemed to work out for us. Those were top ten picks. It took several years of us sucking to get those picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(WCSox @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) It took several years of us sucking to get those picks. Welcome to 2007-2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I also could care less about draft picks. Look who the Royals signed this year. Is there any guarantee a high school kid is going to hit in the bigs??? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 06:03 PM) I also could care less about draft picks. Look who the Royals signed this year. Is there any guarantee a high school kid is going to hit in the bigs??? No way. No but there's a damn good chance that 2 years from now David Price will have great trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) Now on pace for 71 wins and the lowest winning percentage since 1989. Hoorah Beer. Edited August 20, 2007 by RME JICO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I hate that many of the pre-season prognosticators had us winning 72 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 This team is pretty darn bad. This begs the question. What's the worst team in "modern" Sox history? Please name the team and give me names of some players on that team. I wonder if at this point of the season this team could beat that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 24, 2007 -> 11:00 PM) This team is pretty darn bad. This begs the question. What's the worst team in "modern" Sox history? Please name the team and give me names of some players on that team. I wonder if at this point of the season this team could beat that team. Depends on your definition of "modern" history... The 1932 Sox were 49-102 The 1948 Sox were 51-101 The 1970 Sox were 56-106 The 1976 team was 64-97 which was probably the worst most recent team... That team was: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/1976.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Thanks Soxfan. That 76 team was horrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 24, 2007 -> 11:04 PM) Thanks Soxfan. That 76 team was horrid. But, '77 was pretty darn good so maybe there's hope for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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