knightni Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 It's only 11 days til roster expansion. Perhaps they will keep 12 pitchers and send a hitter down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Speculation in I think the Sun-Times was that Gonzalez would go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 This is so exciting! Is it too late to get an Ozzie Plan?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 12:52 AM) A 38 year old LOOGY who can't get out left hand hitters anymore who evidently no contending teams wanted for league minimum. This really is a ridiculous signing. It makes a lot of sense when you look at this--- http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5650 Thornton could be moved for a decent player, and be replaced with Myers, if Myers does decent. He's a had a track record vs. lefties over his career--moreso than Thornton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 08:26 AM) It makes a lot of sense when you look at this--- http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5650 Thornton could be moved for a decent player, and be replaced with Myers, if Myers does decent. He's a had a track record vs. lefties over his career--moreso than Thornton. The guy just got released and apparently no contenders even want him. If the Sox released Thornton, a contender would grab him in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) Thornton to Myers would be a horrible downgrade. Edited August 20, 2007 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 They got him just in time. His new movie comes out August 31st. The Sox will clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 02:00 PM) The guy just got released and apparently no contenders even want him. If the Sox released Thornton, a contender would grab him in a heartbeat. The key is, can Myers show the good stuff he's had the last few years. If so, the sox could trade Thornton for a solid contributor in the offseason [ala what the sox tried to do with Cotts]. With Logan already replacing Thornton in the 7th, 8th innings, vs. lefties and righties, Thornton could be moved. If Thornton can't get lefties out, he certainly won't be the sox LOGGY. Better to get some value for Matt now if the sox think he's been solved by the league. [Which in a radio interview, he said guys this year are swinging at his pitches, when last year they were waiting for him to throw a strike due to rep for wildness]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(WHITESOXRANDY @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 10:52 AM) They got him just in time. His new movie comes out August 31st. The Sox will clean up. But they really need Jason Voorhees for the perfect double plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 09:07 AM) But they really need Jason Voorhees for the perfect double plays. Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Sacrifice bunt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Why????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 01:40 AM) lefties are hitting .212 against Logan this year with 14 hits and 15 k's in 18 innings and only 1 home run. Myers did have a 2.66 ERA in 41 innings for NY yes, but he's 38 and the only reason this is happening is he's from around here. Also, lefties hit .312 against Myers in 18 innings and righties hit .182 in 22 innings, and lefties hit him better last year too. This singing is almost as confusing as those numbers, we already have our LOOGY in Boone (although he's not used right by Ozzie) and Myers is old and not even getting lefties out anymore. What we need is the true lefty that gets everybody out, and with the way Matt Thornton has looked this season, we don't have him yet. Those numbers are confusing for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hope his # is in the T Shirt shop tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 This signing is purely for Brooks and his cast of creative geniuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Pro rated major league minimum for the rest of 2007 with no buyout. Practically a free look see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Gonzalez is the one going down, confirmed. Now how good of a deal does this look? B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 You would think we had the best bullpen in the world or something...and please don't give me the "we have a LOOGY" crap...if he gets righties out, use him against righties. Shocking, I know. It's so hard to compute... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 04:55 PM) You would think we had the best bullpen in the world or something...and please don't give me the "we have a LOOGY" crap...if he gets righties out, use him against righties. Shocking, I know. It's so hard to compute... If he was given a right handed throwing arm, sure he would get a lot of righties out for the whitesox. However he throws from the left side, which means that he will come in to face a lefty. Ozzie usually does matchups based on appendage matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 03:07 PM) If he was given a right handed throwing arm, sure he would get a lot of righties out for the whitesox. However he throws from the left side, which means that he will come in to face a lefty. Ozzie usually does matchups based on appendage matchups. Well, historically, that's been the role he's been best at, and in all honesty, can't everyone agree that a Loogy is more valuable than a roogy to a team? We may as well give him a shot trying to get a few lefties out. That's what we'd want him to do anyway. If he can't do that well any more, there's no reason to hold onto him as a Roogy; we have other guys who can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I was reading that during his career Myers has held lefties to a .216 average. Granted it's been higher the last two seasons. Also, it was nothing physical causing the problems. Supposedly release point issues combined with the most effective place to plant his left leg on the pitching rubber. Those things can be fixed, the Yankees this year didn't have the patience to deal with it. It's a good chance to take a look at this guy to see if he can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I don't mind the move at all. As Beck said, if Myers can pitch well and get back to that 06 Yankee form, it gives us options in regards to Thornton, who could be dealt to help bring in a SS for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 05:44 PM) I don't mind the move at all. As Beck said, if Myers can pitch well and get back to that 06 Yankee form, it gives us options in regards to Thornton, who could be dealt to help bring in a SS for example. But what does Myers performance the rest of this season have to do with how he will perform next year? I'd rather get some young guy up who could use some experience and invite Myers to spring training. Swapping out Thornton for Myers does not strengthen the bullpen IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Well Ozzie said before the game, that Myers hasnt been to good against lefties this year, but he has been over his career. He will be brought in to face lefties(as a loogy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 We're going to use him like we should be using him -- lefty specialist like he's always been doing," manager Ozzie Guillen said. "We're going to take a look at him to see what he can do for us this year, hopefully next year and see what he can help us. ...just like I am sure a lot of us thought. Ozzie...please just listen to the damn numbers once he starts giving up hits to lefties again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock4Life Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 i don't mind the deal because i don't think we really have anyone in the minors that can take any type of bulpen role in '08. plus it gives us the first go at this guy for '08. sure it costs us $50k extra and maybe some pitches from boone but i am ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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