LVSoxFan Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 We all have talked about firing Walker for almost all season. I was curious: so you get his job. What do you fix in our hitters? What are they not doing that they should be doing? I'm talking more about the regulars and not the new guys because we don't even know if the new guys can even hit, period. But we all know hitting's a problem and that's been covered at length. There's a lot of smart baseball people here; pretend you're a scout and have watched the Sox all season--what's your report? (Only because I don't know a ton about baseball but have learned a ton here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 They were interviewing Walker during the game yesterday and he talked about how the approach was to take Wakefield the other way, so everyone who says he preaches swinging hard and trying to pull the ball into the seats is just wrong. The only way to fix this offense is to sprinkle a few new hitters into it. Today, 5 batters in a row, Uribe, Richar, Gonzalez, Owens, Fields. That's just brutal. The highest batting average among the 5 is .242. You get through Thome, Konerko, AJ, and Dye, you have almost a 2 inning breather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 06:29 PM) Today, 5 batters in a row, Uribe, Richar, Gonzalez, Owens, Fields. That's just brutal. The highest batting average among the 5 is .242. You get through Thome, Konerko, AJ, and Dye, you have almost a 2 inning breather. That's exactly what I first noticed when I saw the lineup. That's not good, that's AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Preach patience at the plate. The Sox are last in the league in OBP. Guys are just too anxious to try and get a hit and wont talk a BB. Perfect example was the other day vs Wakefield. The guy was effectively wild with Sox hitters chasing his pitches all over the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I would focus with the batters to go with the pitch. Just because a ball is outside doesn't mean you have to pull it. If the ball is away, hit it oppo. If it is down the middle, hit it to center or the gaps. If the ball is inside, pull it. I wouldn't want hitters to focus on always going the other way or pulling the ball, but rather hit the ball where it is pitched. I would also focus on shorter quicker swings and swinging for line drives instead of the fences. And most importantly I'd focus on patience and plate discipline. We can't have batters swinging at ball 4 and/or looking at strike 3 down the middle. We need the batters to be able to work the pitch count and have a good idea of the strike zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 07:50 PM) I would focus with the batters to go with the pitch. Just because a ball is outside doesn't mean you have to pull it. If the ball is away, hit it oppo. If it is down the middle, hit it to center or the gaps. If the ball is inside, pull it. I wouldn't want hitters to focus on always going the other way or pulling the ball, but rather hit the ball where it is pitched. I would also focus on shorter quicker swings and swinging for line drives instead of the fences. And most importantly I'd focus on patience and plate discipline. We can't have batters swinging at ball 4 and/or looking at strike 3 down the middle. We need the batters to be able to work the pitch count and have a good idea of the strike zone. This would pretty much be my approach. Study the pitcher more, go with the pitch, stop swinging for the fences whether it's opposite field, CF or pulling the ball. Shorten the swing up big time. Take pitches for once. Teach hitters how to hit anything other than a fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I resign in protest of the players given me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 LOL Gregory! Yeah, I guess you could go that way too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I'm not sure a new hitting coach would help this anemic offense. We're now hitting .244 which is the lowest in the entire major leagues. It's quite the accomplishment to be hitting lower than every National League team since they all carry an automatic out at the bottom of their order. Thank goodness Tampa Bay has one of the worst pitching staffs in modern history with their 5.75 ERA or whatever they have, preventing us from finishing last in both statistical categories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 The problem with focusing on 'plate discipline' and worknig the count is waaaaaay too many times you see our batters take a bp fastball right down the middle for strike one, then look like a granny swinging at a splitter in the dirt for strike 2. Konerko and Pods just stand there staring at perfect pitches to hit all the time, and then whiff on the next offering, which is never as good to hit. How about teaching them that if the first pitch is a down the middle strike, and in your zone, hit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I tell you what I would do. I'd make them watch that Series on ESPN "Bronx is Burning" or whatever it's called. I noticed in the highlights of the 1977 Series and playoff Series against the Royals, the Yankees were bashing the baseball WHERE IT WAS PITCHED. What a novel concept. Lefties spraying the ball where it is pitched. Other Yankee righties bashing line drive singles up the midde and to right field. In this awful season, all the Sox do with men on base is pop up. No moving of runners, no hitting it where it's pitched. At least the games I've seen on TV that has been a common thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchstretch Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 that's what is so infuriating..... The 05 team was absolutely amazing at opposite field hitting (mostly Gooch and PK, who couldn't do it to save their lives this year), and working pitchers into deep counts. How in the world with the same players and coaching staff could they become the worst in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 One full game of bunting only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Ahh, get some new hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Going with the pitch sounds great and all. Until you have a pitcher that wants you to pull the ball, or hit it to the 2B. Greg Maddux would love a lineup of predictable hitters like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 This is really what I would do... Not go to a board of fans who are ripping on me constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf_soxfan Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I was thinking about that yesterday. After Edwin Jackson (and his 6 era) had limited the team to paltry 3 hits through 6, or whatever it was, i was screaming at the computer that they should just all friggin' bunt. Every last one of them. Take the humiliation to an all new low and have a practice session during a game. I can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 01:01 AM) I resign in protest of the players given me. LOL! My co-workers are looking at me funny when i burst out laughing on that one! Before a series starts, I would go over the scouting reports of the opposing staff and before batting practice, get my hitters together and let them know what to expect in the series. From those reports, I'd stress to my guys to be either aggressive or passive in the count and especially focus on what kind of junk they throw. If it's a soft-tosser that throws junk on the outside corner, I'd tell my batting practice coach to throw slow stuff outside so they can shoot it the other away. If it's a nasty curveballer or a Santana type guy with a wicked changeup/slider, I'd tell my guys to look for heat early in the count. I dunno if Walker does that already but if he is, they must be tuning him out or something this yr because I'm tired of seeing our guys go up there with little to no gameplan on that night's pitcher, except for Thome and Paulie. Edited August 29, 2007 by Allsox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogfood22 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I'd tell the players that whoever hits the ball up the middle or to the opposite field the most gets to sleep with Scott Podsednik's wife. If that didn't work I'd hit golfballs at them while they were taking batting practice. BTW, this does not apply to JD, Thome, PK, or Fields. They can pull the ball as much as they'd like to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 QUOTE(Dogfood22 @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 05:06 PM) I'd tell the players that whoever hits the ball up the middle or to the opposite field the most gets to sleep with Scott Podsednik's wife. I'd rather nail Adam Archuleta's girlfriend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 03:09 PM) I'd rather nail Adam Archuleta's girlfriend. Aren't you under arrest? Edited August 29, 2007 by Balta1701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) Aren't you under arrest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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