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yeah, that was started a few years ago when things were grim. iirc, it was one of the regular bear message board posters who started the page, and for awhile it was a popular topic among those posting on that board. looks kind of silly now, though.

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 03:55 PM)
So the question being:

 

Who is more responsible for the Bears success, Jerry or Lovie

 

although i'm a big lovie fan, i'd probably give more credit to angelo. he made a few mistakes early on, but since then he's been pretty much dead-on on the great majority of his acquisitions, whether it's been the draft, trades, or free agency. plus, although ted phillips gets more credit, he at least gets a little love for having the bears be one of the best team's in the league when it comes to managing the cap.

 

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 10:55 AM)
So the question being:

 

Who is more responsible for the Bears success, Jerry or Lovie

 

Jerry for his drafting

 

 

Quality Picks (IMHO)

 

Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 42 Danieal Manning FS Abilene Christian 2 57 Devin Hester DB Miami (Fla.)

5

159 Mark Anderson DE Alabama

 

2005 - Chicago Bears Rd Sel # Player Position School

 

4 106 Kyle Orton QB Purdue

6 181 Chris Harris FS Louisiana-Monroe

 

2004 - Chicago Bears Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 14 Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma 2 47 Tank Johnson DT Washington 3 78 Bernard Berrian WR Fresno State 4 110 Nathan Vasher CB Texas

 

2003 - Chicago Bears Rd

Sel # Player Position School

 

1

22 Rex Grossman QB Florida 2

35 Charles Tillman CB Louisiana-Lafayette 3

68 Lance Briggs OLB Arizona 4

100 Todd Johnson DB Florida 4

116 Ian Scott DT Florida 5

139 Bobby Wade WR Arizona 5

143 Justin Gage WR Missouri

6

191 Joe Odom LB Purdue

 

2002 - Chicago Bears Rd Sel # Player Position

School

4 104 Alex Brown DE

Florida 5 140 Bobby Gray DB

Louisiana Tech

6 199 Adrian Peterson RB

Georgia Southern

 

 

 

 

Failed Picks (IMHO) (only considering rds 1-3)

 

2003 1 14 Michael Haynes DE Penn State

 

2002 1 29 Marc Colombo T Boston College

 

3 72 Roe Williams CB Tuskegee

Jury is still out (IMHO)

3 73 Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma1 4 Cedric Benson RB Texas 2 39 Mark Bradley WR Oklahoma

 

 

 

 

I only listed rds 1-3 in consideration for failed picks and jury still out because you can hurt yourself if you have too many bad picks in those rds. Rds 4-7 is considered a crapshoot by many. But for Jerry, he finds a lot of diamonds in the rough.

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QUOTE(farmteam @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 02:28 PM)
Man, that 04 draft was sweet.

 

The 2003,2004 and 2006 drafts are a HUGE reason for the great position the Bears Franchise is in. Hopefully, Benson proves to be a decent pick at #4 and Grossman keeps improving. I also have high hopes for the 2007 class.

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