9/3 Games

[danman31]

Charlotte lost 2-1

Haeger 7 IP, 2 R (1 ER), 9 K, 2 BB, 6 hits

Vasquez IP, 2 K

Aardsma IP, K

Charlotte finishes the season 63-80.

 

Barons won their finale 6-2

Getz 2-4, 3-run HR, BB

Egbert 6 IP, 1 R, 3 K, 0 BB, 5 hits

Oneli IP, 2 K

Barons finish 2nd half 30-40, 62-78 overall.

 

Warthogs lose 2-0 to close their season

Bakker 7 IP, 1 R (0 ER), 5 K, 1 BB, 5 hits

Cassel IP, R (0 ER), 2 K, BB, H

The Warthogs finish the 2nd half 26-43, 64-74 overall.

 

Kanny won 10-4

Miranda 3-5, 2B, 2 RBI, R (finishes season at .282)

Gilbert 3-4, 3B, 2 RBI, R, BB

Dubee 5 IP, 3 R (2 ER), 3 K, 2 BB, 8 hits

Shirek 2 IP, R (0 ER), 2 H

Rote 2 IP, 4 K, BB, 2 H

I's finish the 2nd half 37-32, 69-70 overall.

 

Great Falls will start at 8 CST.

[CWSGuy406]

- Kudos to Egbert for finishing the season on a good note -- 11 groundouts today. Well done.

 

- Another kudos to Haeger for bouncing back after a real rough first half. I still don't want the Sox counting on him for the fifth starter spot, bu I also don't want the Sox to give him away for nothing. Among our other 24 year old (or around there) guys like Floyd, Vasquez, Sisco, Aardsma, Perez and to a lesser extent Phillips, I hope Haeger is given a shot to make next year's bullpen.

 

- I want to believe that Getz has a future as our SS, but that slugging percentage is appaulingly low. At the very least, however, it ensures that we'll have yet another mediocre bench player capable of playing the middle infield (Bour..., Gonzalez).

[29andPoplar]

- Kudos to Egbert for finishing the season on a good note -- 11 groundouts today. Well done.

 

- Another kudos to Haeger for bouncing back after a real rough first half. I still don't want the Sox counting on him for the fifth starter spot, bu I also don't want the Sox to give him away for nothing. Among our other 24 year old (or around there) guys like Floyd, Vasquez, Sisco, Aardsma, Perez and to a lesser extent Phillips, I hope Haeger is given a shot to make next year's bullpen.

 

- I want to believe that Getz has a future as our SS, but that slugging percentage is appaulingly low. At the very least, however, it ensures that we'll have yet another mediocre bench player capable of playing the middle infield (Bour..., Gonzalez).

 

CWS I share your sentiments but as a point of clarification, Getz is almost exclusively a 2B.

[whitesoxfan101]

Haeger was able to finish with an ERA of basically 4 even, yet went 5-16, rough luck. And I really like Miranda, hopefully he starts at W-S next year, and Oneli better start at Charlotte at least, if not with a chance to make the MLB pen.

Edited September 3, 2007 by whitesoxfan101

[Chet Lemon]

Considering how pathetic the Sox pen was this year, I don't see how they could not consider Perez a viable option to make the team.

[Palehosefan]

Oneli and Fernando should both get legit chances out of the pen next year in spring training, they have always put up great numbers in our system at each level.

[DBAHO]

Considering how pathetic the Sox pen was this year, I don't see how they could not consider Perez a viable option to make the team.

I'd imagine considering how bad Dewon Day was when he was called up, the Sox may have some reservations on Perez making it in our pen before he hits AAA. A good showing in Spring Training however could maybe change that, but I think KW is really going to want some proven guys in there after this season's fiasco.

[SoxAce]

Great Falls will start at 8 CST.

 

GF won 5-3

 

That kid Moreno is looking like someone to keep an eye on. He's been very solid this short season.

 

6 IP 1 H 0 R 0 ER 0 BB 5 SO

 

Paiml 2-4, 2 R

Turner 3-3 3 RBIs

Persichina 3-4, R, RBI

[Balta1701]

I'd imagine considering how bad Dewon Day was when he was called up, the Sox may have some reservations on Perez making it in our pen before he hits AAA. A good showing in Spring Training however could maybe change that, but I think KW is really going to want some proven guys in there after this season's fiasco.

Therefore, clearly, the solution is to spend $20 mil over 5 years on the best reliever on the market this offseason...Scott Linebrink. He's a sure thing right?

[Gene Honda Civic]

I'd imagine considering how bad Dewon Day was when he was called up, the Sox may have some reservations on Perez making it in our pen before he hits AAA. A good showing in Spring Training however could maybe change that, but I think KW is really going to want some proven guys in there after this season's fiasco.

Since the calendar turned to July, Oneli has a 50:6 K/BB ratio in 33.1 IP....

 

Kevin Towers (the Padres GM) says the most important aspect of bullpen building is finding strike throwers, a lesson we've learned the hard way this season. I'd say that Oneli absolutely deserves a shot this October. He's certainly more deserving than Broadway, who had to be put on the 40-man for his call-up.

[DBAHO]

Since the calendar turned to July, Oneli has a 50:6 K/BB ratio in 33.1 IP....

 

Kevin Towers (the Padres GM) says the most important aspect of bullpen building is finding strike throwers, a lesson we've learned the hard way this season. I'd say that Oneli absolutely deserves a shot this October. He's certainly more deserving than Broadway, who had to be put on the 40-man for his call-up.

I don't disagree that Oneli's got good numbers, he's been good for 2 seasons now.

 

It is easier for the Pads to find better bullpen guys though just because of PETCO. Our relievers if they pitched there would have much better numbers than they do now.

 

But as Balta said, you don't want to pay a Scott Linebrink a 20M contract in the off-season.

 

Hence why KW's in a tough spot. I think it'd be more likely he would acquire arms through the trade route before giving a shot to an untested rookie at the major league level, even if his numbers indicate he could be ready.

[Flash Tizzle]

I don't disagree that Oneli's got good numbers, he's been good for 2 seasons now.

 

It is easier for the Pads to find better bullpen guys though just because of PETCO. Our relievers if they pitched there would have much better numbers than they do now.

 

But as Balta said, you don't want to pay a Scott Linebrink a 20M contract in the off-season.

 

Hence why KW's in a tough spot. I think it'd be more likely he would acquire arms through the trade route before giving a shot to an untested rookie at the major league level, even if his numbers indicate he could be ready.

Hence why KW's in a tough spot. I think it'd be more likely he would acquire arms through the trade route before giving a shot to an untested rookie at the major league level, even if his numbers indicate he could be ready.

If Williams does that, he's an idiot.

 

Potentially overpay for relievers -- who are historically regarded as inconsistent season to season -- when there are, literally, countless substitutes within the system? And I don't believe there's any question he'd overpay.

 

Didn't he spent last offseason and the midseason prior acquiring bullpen arms? If the relievers on the team aren't producing, tough. He can't continue to trade for relievers until a few stick.

 

I'd rather give Broadway, Phillips, Floyd, Sisco, Aardsma, Masset, Haeger, Perez, Day, Vasquez ALL opportunities to succeed out of the bullpen before I'd trade for one more bullpen arm. I hope Williams feels the same way.

Edited September 4, 2007 by Flash Tizzle

[witesoxfan]

HOME 37.2 IP 2.87 ERA WHIP 0.88 OAVG.183

AWAY 39.2 IP 1.82 ERA WHIP 1.11 OAVG .220

 

I mean, Heath's been better on the road, but it's more than Petco.

[29andPoplar]

Article on Great Falls victory last nite,

 

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs...PORTS/709040319

 

Juan Moreno, a product of the White Sox Dominican Academy, looks to be one to watch. One hit in six innings, only 71 pitches thrown, and was named Pioneer League Pitcher of the Year last week.

 

Great Falls finishes up this week with three games on the road, then starts the playoffs (best of three) with a home game Saturday night. They are a good young team with chemistry and are clearly the bright spot of the farm system this year.

[Balta1701]

If Williams does that, he's an idiot.

 

Potentially overpay for relievers -- who are historically regarded as inconsistent season to season -- when there are, literally, countless substitutes within the system? And I don't believe there's any question he'd overpay.

 

Didn't he spent last offseason and the midseason prior acquiring bullpen arms? If the relievers on the team aren't producing, tough. He can't continue to trade for relievers until a few stick.

 

I'd rather give Broadway, Phillips, Floyd, Sisco, Aardsma, Masset, Haeger, Perez, Day, Vasquez ALL opportunities to succeed out of the bullpen before I'd trade for one more bullpen arm. I hope Williams feels the same way.

Wow, I'm finding myself totally in agreement with Flash about guys currently in our system. I find that fairly remarkable.

[hitlesswonder]

Wow, I'm finding myself totally in agreement with Flash about guys currently in our system. I find that fairly remarkable.

I honestly don't fault Williams for how he assembled the 2008 bullpen. It was a decent plan that just happened to fail spectacularly. Doing what the orioles did would be a 1000 times worse. Their bullpen is terrible as well and they have a load of lousy contracts tying up money for years.

 

I could possibly understand Williams trying to sign one single free agent reliever to be what MacDougal should have been this season. But beyond that, giving up talent in a trade or anything beyond a $3M per year 2 yr deal would be crazy. Wasserman, Aardsma, Perez, Egbert, and Floyd all are guys that should have a shot at the right handed relief slots and I would expect at least 2 of those guys could do a decent job next season (which 2, I don't know).