This is not good for Alex Rodriguez

[frankie5angels]

Former World Series MVP and four-time All Star Troy Glaus received multiple shipments of performance-enhancing drugs via a Florida pharmacy and a California anti-aging clinic, Sports Illustrated reported on its Web site Friday.

 

 

 

 

According to the report, a source in Florida with knowledge of the Internet pharmacy's client list, said multiple shipments of Nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, and testosterone were sent to a Corona, Calif. address that corresponds with Glaus' address. The shipments reportedly occurred between Sept., 2003 and May, 2004.

 

The receipts only show that the substances were sent to the address. However, both nandrolone and testosterone were on Major League Baseball's banned substances list at the time the items were shipped, SI.com reported.

 

 

 

 

Messages seeking comment left for Glaus through both the Blue Jays and his agent were not returned, the Web site reported.

 

 

Glaus, then with the Angels, missed most of 2003 with shoulder injuries and underwent season-ending surgery after attempting a comeback in 2004. He now plays for the Toronto Blue Jays.

 

 

 

According to the report, the prescriptions, written in Glaus' name, were obtained through New Hope Health Center, a California-based anti-aging clinic that advertises the sale of anabolic steroids and human growth hormone on its Web site. The ************ was sent through Signature Pharmacy, an Orlando-based pharmacy targeted by Albany County (N.Y.) prosecutors as part of their steroids investigation.

 

 

 

The substances were prescribed by Dr. Ramon Scruggs, who, according to the Medical Board of California, is currently on probation and is prohibited from prescribing drugs over the Internet. Scruggs was also reportedly involved in a lawsuit with Mobile, Ala.-based Applied Pharmacy, which was previously targeted in a law enforcement raid, according to the report.

 

 

 

When reached for comment on Friday, Scruggs responded with expletives and ended the conversation, SI.com reported.

 

 

 

Also linked to the Signature Pharmacy probe, in various reports, are St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Rick Ankiel, at least 14 professional wrestlers, New England Patriots safety Rodney Harrison, who was suspended four games by the NFL, and Dallas Cowboys coach Wade Wilson, who has been suspended five games and fined by the NFL.

 

 

 

Glaus, 31, was the MVP of the 2002 World Series for the then-Anaheim Angels.

 

 

 

He is currently hitting .263 with 20 home runs and 62 RBIs. He has 277 career home runs -- an average of better than one every 16 at-bats -- despite missing significant playing time with injuries.

 

[frankie5angels]

First the news on Ankiel, now Glaus. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I am starting to believe all these professional athletes are on one thing or another. It's sad really.

[Gregory Pratt]

Still only the small fish.

[frankie5angels]

Still only the small fish.

Glaus isn't a small fish at all. He is one of the better players in the league. Won an MVP, so I say he is more than just a small fish. After all this today with Ankiel and Glaus, and all the stuff with Bonds, and with everything Canseco said, I've lost alot of respect for the game of baseball. Which is sad because it is the greatest game ever invented. But the players of today and the agents and all the baseball executives have really hurt the integrity of the game, and how I look at it. It's a shame.

[Gregory Pratt]

I mean, compared to the people that should come out. Personally, I can't wait to see what MLB and Mitchell cover up and what they reveal.

[hammerhead johnson]

Glaus isn't a small fish at all. He is one of the better players in the league. Won an MVP, so I say he is more than just a small fish.

 

He's got a big fish rep, but I don't think he cracks a "Top 50 Offensive Players" list.

[Texsox]

Which is sad because it is the greatest game ever invented.

 

*cough* golf *cough*

[fathom]

He's got a big fish rep, but I don't think he cracks a "Top 50 Offensive Players" list.

 

He was on his way to being a 400 homer player.

[hammerhead johnson]

He was on his way to being a 400 homer player.

 

That's true, but if you made a list of the top 50 offensive players in the game as of now, Troy would be lucky to make it.

[Kalapse]

Glaus isn't a small fish at all. He is one of the better players in the league. Won an MVP, so I say he is more than just a small fish. After all this today with Ankiel and Glaus, and all the stuff with Bonds, and with everything Canseco said, I've lost alot of respect for the game of baseball. Which is sad because it is the greatest game ever invented. But the players of today and the agents and all the baseball executives have really hurt the integrity of the game, and how I look at it. It's a shame.

He's never finished any higher than 30th in MVP voting. So in other words, he's never even come close to winning an MVP award.

 

He does have a WS MVP on his resume but so do David Eckstein and Scott Brosius and I wouldn't call either of them anymore than small fish.

[frankie5angels]

He's never finished any higher than 30th in MVP voting. So in other words, he's never even come close to winning an MVP award.

 

He does have a WS MVP on his resume but so do David Eckstein and Scott Brosius and I wouldn't call either of them anymore than small fish.

My bad. I didn't clarify myself. I meant to say World series MVP. My fault your back.

[frankie5angels]

*cough* golf *cough*

I like golf. But it doesn't compare to baseball in my book. But like Johnny Fontaine sang "to each his own".

[BHAMBARONS]

This Glaus story reminded me of a comment made in papers here in AZ by Jeff Moorad the part owner of the Dbacks "Since our group took over we have secretly traded away several players that we suspected of steriod use"

 

There tenor started at the end of 2004 through the comment made in June of 2006.

 

 

One of trades was the Glaus trade so it made me wonder who else they "shipped out" in between 9-2004 and 6-2006.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[frankie5angels]

He's got a big fish rep, but I don't think he cracks a "Top 50 Offensive Players" list.

Whether he cracks the top 50 Offensive players right now is debateable but these are big fish stats, pretty comparable to PK

Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP

+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+

1998 21 ANA AL 48 165 19 36 9 0 1 23 1 0 15 51 .218 .280 .291 49 48 0 2 0 0 3

1999 22 ANA AL 154 551 85 132 29 0 29 79 5 1 71 143 .240 .331 .450 98 248 0 3 1 6 9

2000 23 ANA AL 159 563 120 160 37 1 47 102 14 11 112 163 .284 .404 .604 150 340 0 1 6 2 14 SS,AS

2001 24 ANA AL 161 588 100 147 38 2 41 108 10 3 107 158 .250 .367 .531 127 312 0 7 7 6 16 SS,AS

2002 25 ANA AL 156 569 99 142 24 1 30 111 10 3 88 144 .250 .352 .453 115 258 0 8 4 6 12

2003 26 ANA AL 91 319 53 79 17 2 16 50 7 2 46 73 .248 .343 .464 118 148 0 1 4 1 8 AS

2004 27 ANA AL 58 207 47 52 11 1 18 42 2 3 31 52 .251 .355 .575 138 119 0 1 3 3 6

2005 28 ARI NL 149 538 78 139 29 1 37 97 4 2 84 145 .258 .363 .522 125 281 0 5 2 7 7

2006 29 TOR AL 153 540 105 136 27 0 38 104 3 2 86 134 .252 .355 .513 119 277 0 5 6 3 25 MVP-30,AS

2007 30 TOR AL 111 376 59 99 19 1 20 62 0 1 58 99 .263 .365 .479 118 180 0 5 2 5 7

+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+

10 Seasons 4416 1122 9 778 28 1162 .254 .358 .501 120 0 38 35 39 107

1240 765 240 277 56 698 2211

+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+

162 Game Avg 577 100 147 31 1 36 102 7 4 91 152 .254 .358 .501 120 289 0 5 5 5 14

Career High 161 588 120 160 38 2 47 111 14 11 112 163 .284 .404 .604 150 340 0 8 7 7 25

 

Special Batting Glossary

Year Ag Tm Lg PA Outs RC RC/G AIR BA *lgBA OBP *lgOBP SLG *lgSLG OPS *lgOPS*OPS+ OWP *BtRns BtWin SB%

+--------------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+

1998 21 ANA AL 182 134 14 2.8 111| .218 .273| .280 .342| .291 .434| .571 .776| 49 .255 -12.4 -1.2 100%

1999 22 ANA AL 631 432 86 5.3 114| .240 .275| .331 .348| .450 .440| .781 .788| 98 .510 -2.9 -0.3 83%

2000 23 ANA AL 678 429 138 8.6 117| .284 .279| .404 .352| .604 .448|1.008 .800| 150 .707 44.6 4.0 56%

2001 24 ANA AL 708 467 119 6.8 113| .250 .275| .367 .343| .531 .442| .898 .785| 127 .650 25.6 2.4 76%

2002 25 ANA AL 671 450 96 5.7 103| .250 .261| .352 .328| .453 .419| .805 .747| 115 .577 14.6 1.4 76%

2003 26 ANA AL 367 251 52 5.5 101| .248 .259| .343 .324| .464 .415| .807 .740| 118 .560 8.6 0.8 77%

2004 27 ANA AL 242 165 41 6.7 109| .251 .269| .355 .337| .575 .432| .930 .770| 138 .627 11.4 1.1 40%

2005 28 ARI NL 634 413 108 7.0 111| .258 .273| .363 .344| .522 .435| .885 .779| 125 .694 20.8 2.1 66%

2006 29 TOR AL 634 436 95 5.8 114| .252 .279| .355 .344| .513 .443| .868 .787| 119 .570 15.5 1.5 60%

2007 30 TOR AL 444 290 69 6.4 110| .263 .274| .365 .342| .479 .429| .844 .772| 118 .616 11.0 1.0 0%

+--------------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+

10 Seasons 5191 3467 818 6.3 111| .254 .272| .358 .341| .501 .435| .859 .777| 120 .610 137.0 12.8 66%

 

* indicates the value is park adjusted

Pitch Data Summary (Show or Hide)

Year PA Pit Pit/PA Str Bll Strk%| StL% StS% StF% StI%| BlI%| SOc SOs SOc%| Swng% SwgA% Cntc% 1st%| 30% 30c 30s 20% 20c 20s 31% 31c 31s| PAu PiU StU

+----+---+----+------+----+----+-----+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+-----+------+-----+-----+-----+------+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+----+----+----+

1998 182 745 4.09 449 296 60%| 31% 18% 25% 26%| 0%| 18 33 35| 69% 42% 73% 25%| 7% 12 1 21% 38 16 12% 22 12| 0 0 0

1999 623 2492 4.00 1493 999 60%| 32% 16% 24% 27%| 1%| 40 100 29| 68% 41% 76% 24%| 7% 44 3 19% 116 37 13% 83 48| 8 0 0

2000 678 2870 4.23 1647 1223 57%| 34% 17% 25% 24%| 2%| 41 122 25| 66% 38% 74% 19%| 7% 50 2 21% 141 60 13% 91 35| 0 0 0

2001 708 2874 4.06 1655 1219 58%| 31% 17% 25% 26%| 2%| 39 119 25| 69% 40% 75% 24%| 9% 62 9 16% 116 36 13% 90 40| 0 0 0

2002 671 2671 3.98 1564 1107 59%| 29% 19% 24% 28%| 1%| 36 108 25| 71% 42% 73% 26%| 7% 46 8 18% 118 48 11% 77 35| 0 0 0

2003 367 1478 4.03 884 594 60%| 29% 19% 25% 28%| 2%| 15 58 21| 71% 43% 74% 22%| 8% 29 2 16% 60 19 11% 40 16| 0 0 0

2004 242 958 3.96 565 393 59%| 26% 20% 26% 28%| 3%| 8 44 15| 74% 43% 72% 27%| 11% 26 6 23% 55 18 12% 30 15| 0 0 0

2005 634 2609 4.12 1505 1104 58%| 27% 23% 24% 26%| 1%| 33 112 23| 73% 42% 69% 25%| 7% 42 6 19% 123 53 12% 78 36| 0 0 0

2006 634 2663 4.20 1563 1100 59%| 31% 18% 25% 26%| 2%| 27 107 20| 69% 40% 74% 19%| 8% 50 4 17% 109 37 11% 71 26| 0 0 0

2007 444 1922 4.33 1104 818 57%| 35% 17% 22% 26%| 0%| 31 68 31| 65% 37% 74% 16%| 7% 32 3 19% 84 19 16% 70 39| 0 0 0

+----+---+----+------+----+----+-----+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+-----+------+-----+-----+-----+------+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+----+----+----+

Tot 4.11 58%| 31% 18% 24% 26%| 1%| 25%| 69% 40% 73% 23%| 8% 11% 19% 36% 13% 46%|

Avg 3.77 63%| 27% 14% 27% 31%| 2%| 26%| 73% 46% 80% 28%| 5% 6% 15% 39% 9% 55%|

 

Glossary

 

PA - Total Plate Appearances with pitch data

Pit - Total pitches seen

Pit/PA - Average pitches / plate appearance

Str - Strikes total

Bll - Balls total

Str% - Percentage of pitches seen that were strikes (includes pitches swung at out of the zone)

StL% - Percentage of strikes that were looking

StS% - Percentage of strikes that were swinging (this includes 3rd strike foul tip strikes and foul tip bunts)

StF% - Percentage of strikes that were foul (includes foul bunts)

StI% - Percentage of strikes that were in play (any ball put into play fair)

BlI% - Percentage of balls that were intentional

SOc - Strikeouts that were called

SOs - Strikeouts that were swinging (note foul bunts are not included)

SOc% - Percentage of strikeouts that were called

Swng% - Percentage of strikes swung at (StS + StI + StF)/Str

SwgA% - Percentage of all pitches swung at (StS + StI + StF)/Str

Cntc% - Percentage of times contact made when swinging (StI+StF)/(StS + StI + StF)

1st% - Percentage of times swung at the first pitch of PA

30% - Percentage of PAs that resulted in a 3-0 counts

30c - 3-0 counts seen

30s - Plate Appearances Swinging 3-0

20% - Percentage of PAs that resulted in a 2-0 counts

20c - 2-0 counts seen

20s - Plate Appearances Swinging 2-0

31% - Percentage of PAs that resulted in a 3-1 counts

31c - 3-1 counts seen

31s - Plate Appearances Swinging 3-1

PAu - Plate Appearances with no pitch data

PiU - Pitches unknown (may be balls or strikes)

StU - Strikes unknown (may be called, swinging or foul)

The Avg is the average of the seasons for which we have data for the player and is not weighted by the player's PA's.

Fielding Glossary / Minors / Sort by Position, then Year

Year Ag Tm Lg Pos G PO A E DP FP lgFP RFg lgRFg RF9 lgRF9 GS Inn

+--------------+---+----+------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+------+

+---- Fielding Sorted by Year ------+

1998 21 ANA AL 3B 48 27 85 7 7 .941 .948 2.33 2.23

1999 22 ANA AL 3B 153 114 277 19 25 .954 .950 2.56 2.21

DH 1

2000 23 ANA AL 3B 156 111 348 33 33 .933 .947 2.94 2.31 3.01 2.67 155 1373.0 AS

SS 6 1 4 0 1 1.000 .980 0.83 4.17 5.00 4.70 0 9.0 AS

DH 4 AS

2001 24 ANA AL 3B 159 103 285 19 21 .953 .947 2.44 2.41 2.51 2.73 158 1391.7 AS

DH 2 AS

SS 2 0 1 0 0 1.000 1.000 0.50 4.05 2.25 4.50 0 4.0 AS

2002 25 ANA AL 3B 156 100 281 20 30 .950 .951 2.44 2.40 2.57 2.68 153 1335.3

SS 2 1 1 0 1 1.000 .952 1.00 4.15 9.00 4.50 0 2.0

2003 26 ANA AL 3B 87 56 135 16 11 .923 .955 2.20 2.35 2.35 2.67 86 732.3 AS

DH 4 AS

2004 27 ANA AL DH 39

3B 19 11 27 2 2 .950 .950 2.00 2.34 2.07 2.64 19 165.0

2005 28 ARI NL 3B 145 113 310 24 25 .946 .958 2.92 2.39 3.01 2.77 144 1264.0

DH 1

2006 29 TOR AL 3B 145 95 271 14 37 .963 .960 2.52 2.54 2.80 2.84 135 1175.0 AS

SS 8 5 18 0 2 1.000 .970 2.88 4.03 3.74 4.49 8 55.3 AS

DH 4 AS

2007 30 TOR AL 3B 110 61 189 8 23 .969 .958 2.27 2.38 2.50 2.65 0 901.3

+---- Fielding Sorted by Position --+

1998 21 ANA AL 3B 48 27 85 7 7 .941 .948 2.33 2.23

1999 22 ANA AL 3B 153 114 277 19 25 .954 .950 2.56 2.21

2000 23 ANA AL 3B 156 111 348 33 33 .933 .947 2.94 2.31 3.01 2.67 155 1373.0

2001 24 ANA AL 3B 159 103 285 19 21 .953 .947 2.44 2.41 2.51 2.73 158 1391.7

2002 25 ANA AL 3B 156 100 281 20 30 .950 .951 2.44 2.40 2.57 2.68 153 1335.3

2003 26 ANA AL 3B 87 56 135 16 11 .923 .955 2.20 2.35 2.35 2.67 86 732.3

2004 27 ANA AL 3B 19 11 27 2 2 .950 .950 2.00 2.34 2.07 2.64 19 165.0

2005 28 ARI NL 3B 145 113 310 24 25 .946 .958 2.92 2.39 3.01 2.77 144 1264.0

2006 29 TOR AL 3B 145 95 271 14 37 .963 .960 2.52 2.54 2.80 2.84 135 1175.0

2007 30 TOR AL 3B 110 61 189 8 23 .969 .958 2.27 2.38 2.50 2.65 0 901.3

 

1999 22 ANA AL DH 1

2000 23 ANA AL DH 4

2001 24 ANA AL DH 2

2003 26 ANA AL DH 4

2004 27 ANA AL DH 39

2005 28 ARI NL DH 1

2006 29 TOR AL DH 4

 

2000 23 ANA AL SS 6 1 4 0 1 1.000 .980 0.83 4.17 5.00 4.70 0 9.0

2001 24 ANA AL SS 2 0 1 0 0 1.000 1.000 0.50 4.05 2.25 4.50 0 4.0

2002 25 ANA AL SS 2 1 1 0 1 1.000 .952 1.00 4.15 9.00 4.50 0 2.0

2006 29 TOR AL SS 8 5 18 0 2 1.000 .970 2.88 4.03 3.74 4.49 8 55.3

+--------------+---+----+------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+------+

Position Total 3B*1178 791 2208 162 214 .949 .953 2.55 2.37 850 8337.7

DH 55 Games not counted in Overall Total below

SS* 18 7 24 0 4 1.000 .972 1.72 4.09 8 70.3

+--------------+---+----+------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+------+

Overall Total 1196 798 2232 162 218 .949 .953 2.53 2.39

 

Postseason Batting Gamelogs

 

Year Round Tm Opp WLser G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG SB CS SH SF HBP

+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+

2002 ALDS ANA NYY W 4 16 4 5 0 0 3 3 1 3 .313 .389 .875 0 0 0 0 1

ALCS ANA MIN W 5 19 4 6 0 1 1 2 2 5 .316 .381 .579 0 0 0 0 0

WS ANA SFG W 7 26 7 10 3 0 3 8 4 6 .385 .467 .846 0 0 0 0 0

2004 ALDS ANA BOS L 3 11 3 4 2 0 2 3 2 4 .364 .462 1.091 0 0 0 0 0

+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+

2 Lg Div Series 1-1 7 27 7 9 2 0 5 6 3 7 .333 .419 .963 0 0 0 0 1

4 Postseason Ser 3-1 19 72 18 25 5 1 9 16 9 18 .347 .427 .819 0 0 0 0 1

+------------------+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+

 

WLser shows whether the player's team Won or Lost the series.

 

All-Star Game Batting

 

Year Tm Lg GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS SH SF HBP

+------+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+--+---+---+---+---------+

2000 ANA AL 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

2001 ANA AL 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

2003 ANA AL * 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 Starting 3B

2006 TOR AL 2 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

+------+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+--+---+---+---+---------+

Played 4/4 1 7 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 .143 .143 .286

+-------------+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+

 

Appearances on Leaderboards and Awards Glossary

 

Awards are Year-League-Award, Stats are Year-Value-Rank, (Pos) for All-Star indicates starter & * indicates they played. All-Star

2000 *

2001 *

2003 (3B)

2006 *

 

Awards

2002-AL-Babe Ruth Award

2002-ML-WS MVP

 

Silver Sluggers

2000-AL--3B

2001-AL--3B

All Multiple Winners

MVP (YrLg-Rk-Shr)

2006-AL-30-0.00

 

Slugging %

2000 AL-.604-6

Car-.501-89

 

OPS

2000 AL-1.008-7

 

 

Games

2000 AL-159-5

2001 AL-161-5

 

Plate Appearances (approx.)

2001 AL-708-6

 

Runs

2000 AL-120-5

2006 AL-105-9

 

Total Bases

2000 AL-340-4

 

Doubles

2001 AL-38-10

 

Home Runs

2000 AL-47-1

2001 AL-41-4

2005 NL-37-5

2006 AL-38-6

Act-277-28

 

 

RBI

2002 AL-111-8

 

Bases on Balls

2000 AL-112-4

2001 AL-107-4

2002 AL-88-7

2006 AL-86-10

 

Strikeouts

1999 AL-143-3

2000 AL-163-3

2001 AL-158-3

2002 AL-144-3

2005 NL-145-5

2006 AL-134-8

Act-1162-26

 

Adjusted OPS+

2000 AL-150-8

 

Runs Created

2000 AL-138-9

 

Extra-Base Hits

2000 AL-85-3

2001 AL-81-3

 

 

Times on Base

2001 AL-260-9

 

Sac. Flies

2002 AL-8-9

 

Grounded into Double Plays

2001 AL-16-10

2006 AL-25-4

 

Caught Stealing

2000 AL-11-4

 

Power/Speed Number

2000 AL-21.6-8

 

At Bats per Home Run

2000 AL-12.0-3

2001 AL-14.3-6

2005 NL-14.5-6

2006 AL-14.2-8

Act-15.9-12

Car-15.9-27

 

 

Outs

2001 AL-467-10

 

 

 

 

[Gregory Pratt]

Konerko's not really a big fish. I can probably think of eight first baseman I'd take over him and a bunch of other players around baseball. I mean, Konerko's a good hitter and has solid power, but he's not really a big fish. That's kind of quibbling, though.

[southsider2k5]

This Glaus story reminded me of a comment made in papers here in AZ by Jeff Moorad the part owner of the Dbacks "Since our group took over we have secretly traded away several players that we suspected of steriod use"

 

There tenor started at the end of 2004 through the comment made in June of 2006.

One of trades was the Glaus trade so it made me wonder who else they "shipped out" in between 9-2004 and 6-2006.

 

Interesting. Good for them if it is true.

 

[Balta1701]

One of trades was the Glaus trade so it made me wonder who else they "shipped out" in between 9-2004 and 6-2006.

12/14/05.

 

Arizona ships out Javier Vazquez to Chicago for Orlando Hernandez, Luis Vizcaino, and Chris Young.

 

(Vazquez did demand a trade...but since you asked).

[BHAMBARONS]

12/14/05.

 

Arizona ships out Javier Vazquez to Chicago for Orlando Hernandez, Luis Vizcaino, and Chris Young.

 

(Vazquez did demand a trade...but since you asked).

 

 

I would be shocked if Javy is one. His trade like you said was something that was going to happen so I would be shocked.

 

 

Some of the names mentioned:

 

Troy Glaus (12-2005)

Alex Cintron (3-2006)

Brad Halsey (3-2006)

[NorthSideSox72]

If that is true of the D-Backs, then I like them even more. I've been following them a lot the last couple years anyway, they've sort of become my 2nd favorite team. This just reinforces it.

 

[Texsox]

If that is true of the D-Backs, then I like them even more. I've been following them a lot the last couple years anyway, they've sort of become my 2nd favorite team. This just reinforces it.

 

[whitesoxfan101]

Before everybody breaks an arm patting the D-Backs on the shoulder and giving them kudos, don't forget the one fact that proves they are full of garbage. Luis Gonzalez, he and his 57 home runs, THAT Luis Gonzalez, was the star offensive player of their World Title team and had the game winning hit in game 7. Without his juiced up feats that season, they never even get to the World Series. So let's just slow down here. I know a different group was running things then, but I refuse to give an organization who won a title 6 years ago with a juicer as BY FAR their best offensive player much credit.

Edited September 10, 2007 by whitesoxfan101

[witesoxfan]

Before everybody breaks an arm patting the D-Backs on the shoulder and giving them kudos, don't forget the one fact that proves they are full of garbage. Luis Gonzalez, he and his 57 home runs, THAT Luis Gonzalez, was the star offensive player of their World Title team and had the game winning hit in game 7. Without his juiced up feats that season, they never even get to the World Series. So let's just slow down here. I know a different group was running things then, but I refuse to give an organization who won a title 6 years ago with a juicer as BY FAR their best offensive player much credit.

 

It's different ownership dude. That's been stated in the thread already.

[Texsox]

Before everybody breaks an arm patting the D-Backs on the shoulder and giving them kudos, don't forget the one fact that proves they are full of garbage. Luis Gonzalez, he and his 57 home runs, THAT Luis Gonzalez, was the star offensive player of their World Title team and had the game winning hit in game 7. Without his juiced up feats that season, they never even get to the World Series. So let's just slow down here. I know a different group was running things then, but I refuse to give an organization who won a title 6 years ago with a juicer as BY FAR their best offensive player much credit.

 

I think that gives them even more credit. They saw how to win, rejected it, and, if these accounts are true, playing by the rules. I don't think anyone is giving the organization kudos, they are giving the new owners kudos. Small difference usually, but big in this case.

[Harry Chappas]

Who was on the better end of these deals? I'd give them credit if they released this guys to make a point but they traded them away and got equal return. Glaus was a salary dump and they got a pretty good return in Hudson.

 

Wasn't Grimsley still active on their roster when he was arrested?

[southsider2k5]

Who was on the better end of these deals? I'd give them credit if they released this guys to make a point but they traded them away and got equal return. Glaus was a salary dump and they got a pretty good return in Hudson.

 

Wasn't Grimsley still active on their roster when he was arrested?

 

They said "suspected" users. Seriously, who would have suspected Grimsley before he was busted?