TLAK Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Cleveland Grady Sizemore CF .274 Asdrubal Cabrera 2B .316 Travis Hafner DH .255 Victor Martinez C .306 Ryan Garko 1B .292 Jhonny Peralta SS .272 Kenny Lofton LF .300 Chris Gomez 3B .313 Ben Francisco RF .271 Fausto Carmona (15-8, 3.27) Chicago WSox Jerry Owens CF .244 Josh Fields LF .234 Jim Thome DH .271 Jermaine Dye RF .252 AJ Pierzynski C .268 Darin Erstad 1B .259 Juan Uribe SS .226 Danny Richar 2B .207 Andy Gonzalez 3B .204 Gavin Floyd (1-2, 6.20) Umpires: HP: Paul Nauert. 1B: Rob Drake. 2B: Gerry Davis. 3B: Brian Gorman. The game time has been pushed back to about 7:20 due to the drizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Looking at the radar, I'll be surprised if they get a regulation game in tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 s***, no, please have this game. I was really hoping that Gavin would jumpstart Hafner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:11 PM) s***, no, please have this game. I was really hoping that Gavin would jumpstart Hafner. You know, the more I read stuff like this, the more I am starting to understand the posters that are frustrated with the whole "get the number one pick" thing. Not that I care too much one way or the other about games now, or that I don't want a high pick. But for crying out loud, why is it so hard for people to have the patience to see what this guy can do? He's had 3 of his last 4 starts go very well, and even with the bad one he is sporting a 4.50 ERA. I think some of you are way more interested in being right about your hunches than you are about the team or its future being good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnwood Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 That little video about Thome was nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Game now underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 1-2-3 first for Gavin. 2 K. 11 pitches 9 strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:19 PM) You know, the more I read stuff like this, the more I am starting to understand the posters that are frustrated with the whole "get the number one pick" thing. Not that I care too much one way or the other about games now, or that I don't want a high pick. But for crying out loud, why is it so hard for people to have the patience to see what this guy can do? He's had 3 of his last 4 starts go very well, and even with the bad one he is sporting a 4.50 ERA. I think some of you are way more interested in being right about your hunches than you are about the team or its future being good. Haha, he struck Hafner out. Relax killer, I was making a funny. I still don't think Gavin is good at all and even now with four straight "good" starts he's got a 6+ ERA, and I've seen enough of him. Ozzie seems to have, too, the way he talks about him when he does. But yeah, even if we're talking about "seeing what he can do" and "caring about being right instead of the team's future," even you and the other Floyd supporters(of varying respects) understand that Floyd's future is a fifth starter at best. If we're counting on him to be anything more something has gone terribly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 So five minutes after a thrown away DP ball, Hawk just goes, "Yeeee-esuh," and then talks about how happy he is because you've got to be happy after a team this "inept" finally makes good with the bases loaded. Ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 For clarity's sake, do deep fly balls count as homers tonight too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:36 PM) So five minutes after a thrown away DP ball, Hawk just goes, "Yeeee-esuh," and then talks about how happy he is because you've got to be happy after a team this "inept" finally makes good with the bases loaded. Ha ha. Yeah, Hawk was just saying the Sox have 9 SF's for the entire year as a club. Is that right? That really is pathetic. And I agree by the way that Floyd's top end, at this point, is probably a 5th starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:44 PM) For clarity's sake, do deep fly balls count as homers tonight too? Yer kyoot. Don't look now, but he's got a perfect game going. S'not as good as David Wells', though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawa_sox Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Without having the benefit of video, that was a pretty impressive job on Martinez - he goes 3-0 and then retires him on 9 pitches. Only 2 innings in the books mind you, but 6 up 6 down, with 3 strikeouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Is it me or does Gavin Floyd look good early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Question for the board....is Richar playing himself out of a starting spot for next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 08:52 PM) Question for the board....is Richar playing himself out of a starting spot for next year? No, but he isn't playing himself into one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) Question for the board....is Richar playing himself out of a starting spot for next year? No. It's his job to lose. He's played good D. And everyone likes his "potential." (I don't have a positive view of Richar but it does no harm to let him play it out.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 11, 2007 -> 12:53 AM) No. It's his job to lose. He's played good D. And everyone likes his "potential." (I don't have a positive view of Richar but it does no harm to let him play it out.) His defense has been average. He seems to be streaky in the field, which is something we read about in the scouting report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) His defense has been average. He seems to be streaky in the field, which is something we read about in the scouting report. Well, everyone else says he's played good. I haven't watched him enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawa_sox Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 08:55 PM) Depends on which direction they go this off-season. If they add a competent SS and CF, then you can get away with having Richar at 2b, batting 9th. If Uribe is still in the lineup in 2008, with Owens some where in the lineup, Utley better be batting 2nd or 3rd. He also has not had a lot of formal instruction, so 'streaky' at this stage might be somewhat forgiveable. With his natural abilities and lots of reps at second, who knows. P.S. I was trying to respond to Fathoms question. Must have pushed the wrong reply button. Edited September 11, 2007 by ottawa_sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) I find it funny that Richar was making contact with everything. Then all of a sudden he started hitting with power, and his K's went up. I wonder why that is. I would rather keep Richar and get someone who can help him and the rest of the team put better ABs together. The kid has the tools. Just the instruction might be lacking. Edited September 11, 2007 by southsideirish71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Andy thinks we are playing soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Andy Gonzalez belongs nowhere near a major league field, PERIOD. The guy just isn't any good. He'd be a kickass player in the local softball league and can even probably play an average minor league baseball, but the fact he is on our major league team is simply sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawa_sox Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 09:29 PM) Andy Gonzalez belongs nowhere near a major league field, PERIOD. The guy just isn't any good. He'd be a kickass player in the local softball league and can even probably play an average minor league baseball, but the fact he is on our major league team is simply sad. White Sox 2 - Sox third basemen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Floyd has a nice two-seamer working tonight, but I have to say I'm a little dissappointed that his fastball is only topping out at 89 on the Comcast gun. If he pitches another scoreless inning or two, I think he'll actually pass Danks in ERA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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