RME JICO Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Greg Oden, the Portland Trail Blazers' No. 1 pick in the 2007 NBA Draft, will miss the 2007-2008 season after knee surgery on Thursday, two league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Oden, the 7-footer out of Ohio State, underwent exploratory surgery on his right knee on Thursday in Vancouver. The extent of the damage was not immediately clear, but Oden, one of the most celebrated young players in years, will be lost for the season. The Blazers are expected to make an announcement shortly. The only question mark entering the draft about him was his health. Sucks to be Portland. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Agp9...o&type=lgns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 OUCH. Great...now imagine the team Portland's going to field when they get another top draft pick next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Bill Walton Sam Bowie ... Greg Oden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Hopefully this works out better for Portland than the Sam Bowie thing. Obviously, Oden is a lot more talented, but big men who become injury prone usually stay that way, so for him to be hurt this much at age 20 or whatever is a major red flag. EDIT: Darn, beat me to it. Although Walton was the reason Portland won it all 30 years ago in 1977, so to throw him in that group isn't quite fair. Edited September 13, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 All three were centers with severe knee injuries drafted by Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 01:53 PM) All three were centers with severe knee injuries drafted by Portland. Yeah I know, but Bowie played in the league like 3 years, and was taken in between Hakeem and MJ, while Walton did lead them to a Championship. Just not fair to group those two together IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 That knee scope went downhill AWFULLY fast. I have to think that they would have seen some damage in May/June before the draft. Either they flat out missed it or ignored it, and they'll take a lot of s*** for passing on Durant, possibly deserved. That'd really suck for Portland if this seriously derails his career. The kid is clearly a gifted athlete that has the ability to dominate. It doesn't sound like they expect it to be a major issue, but then again this was a routine scope a few days a go, and it sounds an awful lot like the crap the Cubs used to spew about Wood and Prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Walton had an injury plagued career, Bowie did as well. Bowie played 10 seasons. Walton played 8 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) Walton had an injury plagued career, Bowie did as well. Bowie played 10 seasons. Walton played 8 seasons. I had no idea Bowie played that long, wow. I rescind my comments in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:58 PM) I had no idea Bowie played that long, wow. I rescind my comments in that case. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowiesa01.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/waltobi01.html Only 700 points apart. It's amazing how ESPN can bias a whole generation with their UCLA/Celtics bulls***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 01:59 PM) http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowiesa01.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/waltobi01.html Only 700 points apart. It's amazing how ESPN can bias a whole generation with their UCLA/Celtics bulls***. Well I knew Walton didn't live up to expectations overall, but he did win the 1977 Finals MVP, 1978 league MVP, and was 6th man of the year for the last Celtics title team in 1986, which is a lot more than Bowie ever did. But yeah, I had no idea Bowie played that long and had that many good seasons. Still a bit of an error to take him over MJ though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 The Bulls took Jay Williams over Amare Stoudamire in 2002 because they needed a PG. I'd consider that hindsight being 20/20 as well as Bowie over Jordan being hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I guess his age finally caught up to him... Really though, this is sad to hear. I was very excited to see him play. He'll probably recover from microfracture surgery like Amare, but other older players have not fared so well after that type of surgery (allan houston, penny, mcdyess). It'll be interesting if Portland gets someone like Rose, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Injury prone? You mean like the broken wrist that he not only played through, but elevated him game with? Hes 20 years old and will have a small knee surgery. He will be back easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 12:10 PM) Injury prone? You mean like the broken wrist that he not only played through, but elevated him game with? Hes 20 years old and will have a small knee surgery. He will be back easily. While he may be back easily, this is not a small knee surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:07 PM) The Bulls took Jay Williams over Amare Stoudamire in 2002 because they needed a PG. I'd consider that hindsight being 20/20 as well as Bowie over Jordan being hindsight. That's silly. Amare was a slightly undersized 4 (6'8.5" at the camp IIRC) with a very minimal offensive skill set coming straight out of High School, whereas Jay Williams was a National POY at Duke who had a not bad rookie season before pretty much ending his career because he couldn't ride a motorcycle. In contrast, Bowie had shown to be britle and had injury problems/risks even at Kentucky, whereas that Jordan guy was pretty good in college. And if Portland wanted a front line player so bad to go with Drexler, maybe they could have taken that Barkley guy that went #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:11 PM) While he may be back easily, this is not a small knee surgery. Sure it is, even the doctor says the recovery is easy. This is not an ACL surgery, its a cartilage repair. No ligament damage. I think its funny that "health" issues are mentioned and his tonsils are used as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) Injury prone? You mean like the broken wrist that he not only played through, but elevated him game with? Hes 20 years old and will have a small knee surgery. He will be back easily. Never heard of a small knee injury that knocks you out for an entire 82 game, 6 month season. But a multi month wrist injury and a multi month knee injury in back to back years is indeed no sign of being injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:14 PM) Never heard of a small knee injury that knocks you out for an entire 82 game, 6 month season. But a multi month wrist injury and a multi month knee injury in back to back years is indeed no sign of being injury prone. Microfracture surgery is an orthopedic surgical technique that can help restore knee cartilage by creating tiny fractures in the adjacent bones, causing new cartilage to develop. It can be used to treat both degenerative knee problems as well as cartilage injuries, and has gained a high profile in the sports world in recent years; numerous professional athletes including members of the NBA and NFL have undergone the procedure. The surgery is quick (taking around 30 minutes), minimally invasive, and has significantly shorter recovery times than an arthroplasty (knee replacement). Combined with a high rate of success, these factors have caused orthopedic surgeons to use the procedure with increasing frequency. The reason it will take awhile to get back completely is that you need to give it time to heal up and generate the healthy cartilage. He may have an arthritic knee in the future because of the cartilage problems, but he should have a quick (due to age) and full recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:17 PM) The reason it will take awhile to get back completely is that you need to give it time to heal up and generate the healthy cartilage. He may have an arthritic knee in the future because of the cartilage problems, but he should have a quick (due to age) and full recovery. That doesn't make this a small knee surgery though, just means he should be set to roll in 2008-2009. Edited September 13, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:19 PM) That doesn't make this a small knee surgery though, just means he should be set to roll in 2008-2009. Well since its relatively non-invasive, is quick, and is said to have a full recovery time of 4 months, makes me believe its a small surgery. Its a case to case basis, but in the terms of knee surgeries for athletes, its a much shorter recovery time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:20 PM) Well since its relatively non-invasive, is quick, and is said to have a full recovery time of 4 months, makes me believe its a small surgery. Its a case to case basis, but in the terms of knee surgeries for athletes, its a much shorter recovery time. Yeah, and I will say this: Anybody who watched the national title game and still rips Portland for taking Oden is crazy. He dominated while being guarded by a combo of 3 or 4 future NBA players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I think Oden will comeback strong... but this puts a huge dagger in Portland's upcoming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 02:24 PM) I think Oden will comeback strong... but this puts a huge dagger in Portland's upcoming season. or they could get another lottery pick, and really get good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2007 -> 12:20 PM) Well since its relatively non-invasive, is quick, and is said to have a full recovery time of 4 months, makes me believe its a small surgery. Its a case to case basis, but in the terms of knee surgeries for athletes, its a much shorter recovery time. If the recovery time is said to be 4 months, why is the team saying the recovery time is 6-12 months? Here's some details on the procedure... Patients must not resume sports that involve pivoting, cutting, and jumping for 4 to 6 months after a microfracture procedure. Full activity may be resumed once the physician has examined the knee and given approval for the patient to return to sports activity. All patients treated with microfracture for patellofemoral defects must use a brace set for 0° to 20° of flexion for at least 8 weeks. It is essential to limit compression of the new surfaces in the early postoperative period, so that the maturing marrow clot will not be disturbed. The brace should be worn at all times except when passive motion is allowed. He's in a brace for 8 weeks, and is not allowed to even begin running/jumping for 4 to 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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