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QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Sep 24, 2007 -> 09:56 AM)
9mm are meant to kill people. rubber bullets meant to incapacitate. Tasers immobilize. lassos for a good ol' boot scootin' good time.

 

I think more people are in need of a good immobilization than we admit.

 

Jesse Jackson comes to mind.

 

All valid points, but what does "non" mean?

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It seemed like a non controversial point a couple days ago :lolhitting It only shows how stupid some people think the public is. Put a nice name on it and we slobber and want one. As I mentioned, they are great tools, too bad they can't just say, hey. someone may be seriously harmed by one of these, but by not using it, many more, including many more good guys, will be harmed. So we use less-lethal weapons.

 

And isn't less-lethal, my radio name in college, just as catchy and more accurate than non-deadly?

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QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 24, 2007 -> 11:02 AM)
All valid points, but what does "non" mean?

 

If I'm a security guard at a nursing home, I imagine we could drop the "non" altogether with just about any weapon I would use to beat back the angry dementia patients.

 

but I think it's obvious that "non-deadly" is the intended by product of the weapon. Handcuffs, bad breath, and night sticks are probably classified as non-deadly weapons.

 

In other words, in MOST cases, when used correctly, these things are meant to NOT-KILL someone.

 

I get your hang up, but it's not simple marketing. I think it's logical.

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QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 24, 2007 -> 11:12 AM)
It seemed like a non controversial point a couple days ago :lolhitting It only shows how stupid some people think the public is. Put a nice name on it and we slobber and want one. As I mentioned, they are great tools, too bad they can't just say, hey. someone may be seriously harmed by one of these, but by not using it, many more, including many more good guys, will be harmed. So we use less-lethal weapons.

 

And isn't less-lethal, my radio name in college, just as catchy and more accurate than non-deadly?

 

what's a nubian?

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QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Sep 24, 2007 -> 10:14 AM)
I think it's logical.

 

Looking at it from a gun to taser that is logical. Looking at that from handcuffs to taser it isn't. With this kid, what was the taser used instead of? A gun? Handcuffs? A kick in the ass?

 

So it is less deadly than a gun, but is it less deadly than what is most likely to have been used instead? I don't know. Perhaps more people were killed with handcuffs, then you are accurate.

 

Anyhow, this has reached the silly point. Better fish to fry. :cheers

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Issue resolved.

 

The protestor gets 18 months probation, suspended sentence on charges of resisting arrest without violence and interference, which will be expunged if he completes probation cleanly.

 

The officers are back on duty, after the state investigation found the use of force was appropriate.

 

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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 03:01 PM)
Issue resolved.

 

The protestor gets 18 months probation, suspended sentence on charges of resisting arrest without violence and interference, which will be expunged if he completes probation cleanly.

 

The officers are back on duty, after the state investigation found the use of force was appropriate.

 

Someone should tase the judge for that non-sentence.

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