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Here are my grades for members of the Sox organization:

 

Mark Buehrle: B

Javier Vazquez: A

Jose Contreras: F

Jon Garland: C

Jon Danks: D

Gavin Floyd: C

Bobby Jenks: A

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: D

Boone Logan: C

Ehren Wasserman: A

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: D

 

AJP: C

Paul Konerko: C

Jim Thome: B

Iguchi: D

Richar: C

Juan Uribe: D

Josh Fields: B

Scott Pods: F

Erstad: D

Jermaine Dye: C

Jerry Owens: C

Toby Hall: F

Andy Gonzalez: AA

 

 

Ozzie Guillen: D

Kenny Williams: D

The Fans: A

 

Please share your opinions and grades

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oooooohhh, fun...

 

*Added Gonzalez, Bukvich and Cintron to the list...

 

Mark Buehrle: B

Javier Vazquez: A-

Jose Contreras: D

Jon Garland: C+

Jon Danks: C

Gavin Floyd: C-

Bobby Jenks: A-

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: D

Boone Logan: C+

Ehren Wasserman: A-

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: D

Ryan Bukvich: D

 

AJP: C-

Paul Konerko: C

Jim Thome: B

Iguchi: D

Richar: C+

Juan Uribe: D

Josh Fields: B+

Scott Pods: D

Erstad: C-

Jermaine Dye: C

Jerry Owens: B+

Toby Hall: D-

Andy Gonzalez: F

Alex Cintron: D

 

Ozzie Guillen: C

Kenny Williams: C-

The Fans: A-

 

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QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 03:59 PM)
Not giving Thome an A....you're joking, right?

 

Dude missed thirty games and still hit 33 homers and almost 100 rbis

 

with an average just 7 points below his career average at almost age 40

 

what the hell would have been an A for you people?

 

When this team was really struggling, Thome wasn't playing well. Also, his sub .200 batting average against LHP really hurts us, as we needed more production from the DH spot against the great lefties in the AL. As you can tell by how I gave guys like Konerko and Owens the same grade, it didn't just have to do with production, but playing up to their capabilities as well.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 11:01 AM)
When this team was really struggling, Thome wasn't playing well. Also, his sub .200 batting average against LHP really hurts us, as we needed more production from the DH spot against the great lefties in the AL. As you can tell by how I gave guys like Konerko and Owens the same grade, it didn't just have to do with production, but playing up to their capabilities as well.

 

2004-2006 Thome is a .226 hitter against lefties. So he would've gotten an A if he would've just hit .226?

 

We knew he sucked against lefties going into this season. In fact, many of us were crying for a semi-platoon against lefties. I don't see how it's fair to grade Thome hard because he's not "playing up to his capabilities" if we acknowledged preseason that he sucks against lefties. We didn't get Jim Thome because of his ability to hit LHP!

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QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 11:16 AM)
2004-2006 Thome is a .226 hitter against lefties. So he would've gotten an A if he would've just hit .226?

 

We knew he sucked against lefties going into this season. In fact, many of us were crying for a semi-platoon against lefties. I don't see how it's fair to grade Thome hard because he's not "playing up to his capabilities" if we acknowledged preseason that he sucks against lefties. We didn't get Jim Thome because of his ability to hit LHP!

Fine. You give him an A and some other people give him a B. Step away from the ledge.

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QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 11:16 AM)
2004-2006 Thome is a .226 hitter against lefties. So he would've gotten an A if he would've just hit .226?

 

We knew he sucked against lefties going into this season. In fact, many of us were crying for a semi-platoon against lefties. I don't see how it's fair to grade Thome hard because he's not "playing up to his capabilities" if we acknowledged preseason that he sucks against lefties. We didn't get Jim Thome because of his ability to hit LHP!

Perhaps you could provide your grades.

 

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QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 09:19 AM)
Here are my grades for members of the Sox organization:

 

Mark Buehrle: B

Javier Vazquez: A

Jose Contreras: F

Jon Garland: C

Jon Danks: D

Gavin Floyd: C

Bobby Jenks: A

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: D

Boone Logan: C

Ehren Wasserman: A

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: D

 

AJP: C

Paul Konerko: C

Jim Thome: B

Iguchi: D

Richar: C

Juan Uribe: D

Josh Fields: B

Scott Pods: F

Erstad: D

Jermaine Dye: C

Jerry Owens: C

Toby Hall: F

Andy Gonzalez: AA

Ozzie Guillen: D

Kenny Williams: D

The Fans: A

 

Please share your opinions and grades

Since you don't give + or - I will use the same system and here's where I disagree.

Vazquez B

Floyd D

Iguchi (incomplete)

Richar D

Pods D

Andy G Ha ha

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Mark Buehrle: A-

Javier Vazquez: A

Jose Contreras: D

Jon Garland: C

Jon Danks: D

Gavin Floyd: C

Bobby Jenks: A

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: D

Boone Logan: C

Ehren Wasserman: A

Mike Myers: D

Matt Thornton: D

 

AJP: C

Paul Konerko: C

Jim Thome: A-

Iguchi: D

Richar: C+

Juan Uribe: D+

Josh Fields: B-

Scott Pods: D

Erstad: C

Jermaine Dye: C

Jerry Owens: B-

Toby Hall: F

Andy Gonzalez: F

 

 

Ozzie Guillen: D

Kenny Williams: D

The Fans: A

 

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QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 11:23 AM)
I just don't think it's fair to bash people for not being capable of doing things we knew they were not capable of doing, that's all.

B = above average

 

Also, I think grades are probably conditioned to that anyway. Thome was hurt on and off, had some big slumps, and struggled in close & late scenarios early in the season.

 

Oh and, I think its interesting you choose to bash people's grades but aren't willing to provide your own input. Its all just for fun - give it a shot, and take it easy.

 

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Another Thome argument. Zzzzzz...

 

ANYWAY:

 

Mark Buehrle: B+

Javier Vazquez: A

Jose Contreras: F

Jon Garland: C

Jon Danks: D

Gavin Floyd: C

Bobby Jenks: A

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: D

Boone Logan: C+

Ehren Wasserman: B

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: C-

 

AJP: C

Paul Konerko: C

Jim Thome: B

Iguchi: D

Richar: C

Juan Uribe: D

Josh Fields: B

Scott Pods: F

Erstad: C

Jermaine Dye: C

Jerry Owens: C

Toby Hall: F

Andy Gonzalez: AA (LOL... exactly!)

 

 

Ozzie Guillen: D

Kenny Williams: D

The Fans: A

 

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Mark Buehrle: B+

Javier Vazquez: A-

Jose Contreras: D+

Jon Garland: C

Jon Danks: C+

Gavin Floyd: C

Bobby Jenks: A+

Mike MacDougal: D-

David Aardsma: F

Boone Logan: B-

Ehren Wasserman: A-

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: D

Ryan Bukvich: C

 

AJP: C-

Paul Konerko: C

Jim Thome: B+

Iguchi: C

Richar: C+

Juan Uribe: C

Josh Fields: B

Scott Pods: D

Erstad: C-

Jermaine Dye: C

Jerry Owens: B

Toby Hall: D-

Andy Gonzalez: D

Alex Cintron: INC (not gonna fault him for his off the field personal issues he dealt with all year)

 

Ozzie Guillen: C

Kenny Williams: D

 

 

 

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Mark Buehrle: B+

Javier Vazquez: A

Jose Contreras: D

Jon Garland: C+

Jon Danks: D

Gavin Floyd: C+

Bobby Jenks: A

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: F

Boone Logan: D

Ehren Wasserman: A

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: F

 

AJP: C

Paul Konerko: B

Jim Thome: A

Iguchi: C-

Richar: C

Juan Uribe: D

Josh Fields: A

Scott Pods: F

Erstad: F

Jermaine Dye: B

Jerry Owens: C

Toby Hall: D

Andy Gonzalez: ugh

 

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QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Sep 27, 2007 -> 12:12 PM)
Mark Buehrle: B+

Javier Vazquez: A

Jose Contreras: D

Jon Garland: C+

Jon Danks: D

Gavin Floyd: C+

Bobby Jenks: A

Mike MacDougal: F

David Aardsma: F

Boone Logan: D

Ehren Wasserman: A

Mike Myers: F

Matt Thornton: F

 

AJP: C

Paul Konerko: B

Jim Thome: A

Iguchi: C-

Richar: C

Juan Uribe: D

Josh Fields: A

Scott Pods: F

Erstad: F

Jermaine Dye: B

Jerry Owens: C

Toby Hall: D

Andy Gonzalez: ugh

Jim Thome an A?!?! How could you give him an A???

 

:lol:

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I really don't know why or how anyone would give Andy Gonzalez anything less than a C. As far as I'm concerned, he stayed healthy and played a lot of positions, so he gets an A. That in itself says a lot about a guy. I mean, the guy hit like s***, but who honestly didn't expect that? He's the 32nd man on a 25 man roster, it just so happens that the White Sox are so bad that he was the 27th or 28th man.

 

Had the team been in contention, it's an entirely different story, but seriously, kudos to Andy for health and flexibility, and thanks for busting your balls kid.

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