September 28th: Chicago vs. Detroit

[Flash Tizzle]

Lineup:

 

Podsednik

Fields

Thome

Konerko

Dye

Erstad

Uribe

Richar

Hall

[witesoxfan]

Since the draft position is meaningless at this point anyways, here's to hoping Vazquez wins 15 and gets his ERA below 3.70.

 

(reverse psychology or somethin...?)

[Flash Tizzle]

Since the draft position is meaningless at this point anyways, here's to hoping Vazquez wins 15 and gets his ERA below 3.70.

 

(reverse psychology or somethin...?)

I'm really becoming aggrivated with Guillen leaving in Thome/Konerko/Dye this last week. Any win we receive this series is useless. And any production from those three is useless. Wouldn't it be appropriate if one (or more) were injured at some point these next several days? It would follow the theme from this season that rarely has anything gone right.

 

Concerning the draft, at worst we're selecting in the 10th position. These last few drafts have proven quality prospects are available at this point (Lincecum - 2006; Maybin/Bruce - 2005; Weaver - 2004.) However, several spots lower at 7, the following players have been available: Kershaw - 2006; Tulowitzki - 2005; Bailey - 2004.

 

But according to Greg, draft position means nothing.

Edited September 29, 2007 by Flash Tizzle

[whitesoxmanager]

I'm really becoming aggrivated with Guillen leaving in Thome/Konerko/Dye this last week. Any win we receive this series is useless. And any production from those three is useless. Wouldn't it be appropriate if one (or more) were injured at some point these next several days? It would follow the theme from this season that rarely has anything gone right.

 

Concerning the draft, at worst we're selecting in the 10th position. These last few drafts have proven quality prospects are available at this point (Lincecum - 2006; Maybin/Bruce - 2005; Weaver - 2004.) However, several spots lower at 7, the following players have been available: Kershaw - 2006; Tulowitzki - 2005; Bailey - 2004.

 

But according to Greg, draft position means nothing.

 

I almost posted something to the effect that Aaron Rowand has made a big difference on the attitude, personality, and competitiveness on the Phillies. To those of you who think otherwise, well you have many years to gain the experience necessary to realize what it really takes to win. KW you were wrong and now we are left with a listless team.

 

 

[Flash Tizzle]

I almost posted something to the effect that Aaron Rowand has made a big difference on the attitude, personality, and competitiveness on the Phillies. To those of you who think otherwise, well you have many years to gain the experience necessary to realize what it really takes to win. KW you were wrong and now we are left with a listless team.

Philadelphia has an offensive ballclub talored for the American League. Sure, he may add attitude, personality, and competitiveness to the ballclub; but he's surrounded by talent.

 

I'm not interested in paying him 8+million over 5 years to help motivate a mediocre ballclub. The goal we should be looking towards is receiving young, cheap talent; not expensive talent riding off a career season.

 

And is anyone else disgusted at how Hawk has had a complete 180 turnaround on Uribe in the last week? As if he realized after reading Guillen's comments (and perhaps talking to Williams), there is no one available to replace Juan. It wasn't too long ago Hawk wasn't sure how the team could possibly keep him because he can't be taught.

[witesoxfan]

I almost posted something to the effect that Aaron Rowand has made a big difference on the attitude, personality, and competitiveness on the Phillies. To those of you who think otherwise, well you have many years to gain the experience necessary to realize what it really takes to win. KW you were wrong and now we are left with a listless team.

 

Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, and Jimmy Rollins have absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all Rowand.

 

Get real.

[Flash Tizzle]

I'm sick of this f***ing team.

 

We're looking at 9th place, and one game behind Washington, if neither Houston or Cincinnati win.

[southsideirish71]

I'm sick of this f***ing team.

 

We're looking at 9th place, and one game behind Washington, if neither Houston or Cincinnati win.

 

And the Whitesox with the 9th pick, select Jordan Danks of the University of Texas. A surprise pick at this point, Danks was scheduled to be a late first rounder to the 2nd round. With a lot of toolsy picks out here, I dont understand why the sox went this way. This is a stretch at this point, a bit of an overdraft.

 

 

 

The next day the Suntimes Crowley article

 

"A noticeable smiling Kenny Williams speaks, well when you get a special talent and quality individual like Jordan Danks you sometimes have to thank the rest of the teams for passing up on him. He was our top pick if we selected number one, or number 25. Hahn comes over, Kenny strikes again. He always gets his man. "

Edited September 29, 2007 by southsideirish71

[Kyyle23]

Hawk just had a "WTF?" moment

 

while discussing the Brewers/Cubs

 

DJ: The Brewers seem like they are trying to climb Mt Everest right now

 

Hawk: It can be done

 

DJ: I know, thats why I didnt say it was impossible. Just unlikely

 

Hawk: Because its there

 

???????

 

LOL, someone should tell Hawk that the saying doesnt apply in this situation

[Jordan4life_2007]

Just a couple more days until this nightmare is over. I can't believe this team. They can't even f***in' lose right. Guys like Thome/Konerko/Dye have decided to turn it on first-half 2006 style. We're all of a sudden getting good starting pitching for the first time since, what, May? The bullpen has actually been decent. And we only had to wait for meaningless September games for this to happen. So long Pedro!

[Flash Tizzle]

Just a couple more days until this nightmare is over. I can't believe this team. They can't even f***in' lose right. Guys like Thome/Konerko/Dye have decided to turn it on first-half 2006 style. We're all of a sudden getting good starting pitching for the first time since, what, May? The bullpen has actually been decent. And we only had to wait for meaningless September games for this to happen. So long Pedro!

He's been a lost dream for quite awhile. Only way we'll even have an opportunity to draft him is if Boras is his agent and he's demanding an absurd amount of money. Even then, because he's in his junior year with little bargaining power, I can't imagine many teams ahead of us will be intimidated. It won't be like Porcello. Having a draft selection secured for the following year doesn't hurt, either.

 

My expectations will still be high, regardless of what position we select at. I'm honestly going to be under the belief that if ANY player from our 1st selection through the end of the sandwich round outperforms our pick, we failed. That's potentially 40 players. It'll take some time to determine this, but it should still hold true. People need to do their homework, next season. Hell, it already should have begun.

[Jack Parkman]

With a couple of wins we could be looking at drafting in the 11-12 spot. A s***ty season and we'll get no talent to show for it. This certainly doesn't help improve our barren farm system.

[witesoxfan]

Hawk just had a "WTF?" moment

 

while discussing the Brewers/Cubs

 

DJ: The Brewers seem like they are trying to climb Mt Everest right now

 

Hawk: It can be done

 

DJ: I know, thats why I didnt say it was impossible. Just unlikely

 

Hawk: Because its there

 

???????

 

LOL, someone should tell Hawk that the saying doesnt apply in this situation

 

When in Rome

[whitesoxmanager]

Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, and Jimmy Rollins have absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all Rowand.

 

Get real.

 

Actually RH, CU, JRow are a very good young nucleus. Once they added a guy with WS experience and savvy that would sacrifice himself for every other player, fan, announcer....well that was the piece that those young guys needed to get over the hump. WE GOT HOSED WITH THE TRADE & THE WAY IT WENT DOWN WILL HAUNT US FOR A LONG TIME! GO PHILLIES!

 

[Flash Tizzle]

With a couple of wins we could be looking at drafting in the 11-12 spot. A s***ty season and we'll get no talent to show for it. This certainly doesn't help improve our barren farm system.

First, it's impossible for us to select anywhere beyond 10.

 

Second, don't just assume that we'll have no talent available to us. Remember, we haven't had a position this high in seventeen years. This is just the type of thinking that helps the organization if they fail. They'll say, "oh, this was the best player available." Too bad, is my thinking. The better find an excellent talent who turns into a legitimate major league ballplayer.

[Flash Tizzle]

DAmmit, Vazquez is too good. May as well be a 10 run lead with him on the mound.

[Jack Parkman]

First, it's impossible for us to select anywhere beyond 10.

 

Second, don't just assume that we'll have no talent available to us. Remember, we haven't had a position this high in seventeen years. This is just the type of thinking that helps the organization if they fail. They'll say, "oh, this was the best player available." Too bad, is my thinking. The better find an excellent talent who turns into a legitimate major league ballplayer.

Point taken. I was just thinking worst case on the draft issue. I'll guess that we'll probably be picking #9. You have a valid and good point, and I agree that there is no excuse for having this bad of a farm system. I'm just mad that we'll be missing out on a Justin Verlander type pitcher or one of the best 5 tool players unless they drop due to signability concerns. If a top talent drops to us for that reason, and we don't pick him, I will blast away at Sox management for not selecting that player and being cheapskates.

[greg775]

I'm really becoming aggrivated with Guillen leaving in Thome/Konerko/Dye this last week. Any win we receive this series is useless. And any production from those three is useless. Wouldn't it be appropriate if one (or more) were injured at some point these next several days? It would follow the theme from this season that rarely has anything gone right.

 

Just to let you know ... I am laughing as hard at you "draft guys" as you are laughing at me.

You are aggravated with playing three veterans in our final home series?

Uh ... maybe the f***ing fans who pay top dollar to go to the games want to see these three players and do not care about the f***ing baseball draft.

Have you ever thought of that?

I myself love the fact Thome homered again tonight and Vazzy again is pitching well.

I could care less about the June draft but I care greatly about tonight's game and beating

the f***ing Tigers.

You people that want to lose, I mean not to be disrespectful, but tanking in games makes me sick.

You play a game, you should want to win.

If not, why have sports at all.

f*** THE DRAFT!!!!

GO SOX!!!

Edited September 29, 2007 by greg775