September 29th: Detroit vs. Chicago

[Flash Tizzle]

9th inning, tie game at 2 apiece.

 

Doug Eddings is trying to screw our opportunity of advancing in the draft. Two plays at second tonight have benefited us.

 

As of now, Grindy at 2nd; Groiny at 1st. 0 outs. PLEASE screw this up. We can be in position to gain several slots with a loss tonight and another tomorrow.

Edited September 30, 2007 by Flash Tizzle

[Palehosefan]

Well, there goes a high draft pick.

[Flash Tizzle]

If we miss a future HOF by one slot in the draft, just remember nights such as tonight.

 

One useless victory after another this last week.

[WilliamTell]

yeah Uribe!

[CWSGuy406]

A miserable season gets worse. Unbelievable. I think the best the Sox can draft now is 6th -- it's looking instead like 6th-to-8th.

 

What a joke. With this win we pretty much guarantee we'll be drafting ahead of San Fran... I can already see them selecting the guy I'll want, mainy because they'll spend the $$$ to get it done.

 

I'll also guess that the Cubs piss on our graves some more tomorrow by beating Cincy and putting the Reds ahead of the Sox as well.

Edited September 30, 2007 by CWSGuy406

[Flash Tizzle]

Here's what it comes down to -- the highest position we can have is eighth, the lowest is tenth. The odds are in favor of us selecting 9th.

 

The scenarios:

WASH - L

HOU - W or L

CHI - W

 

= 10th

 

WASH - W

HOU - W

CHI - W

 

= 9th

 

WASH - L

HOU - W

CHI - L

 

= 9th

 

WASH - W

HOU - L

CHI - W

 

= 9th

 

WASH - L

HOU - L

CHI - L

 

= 9th

 

WASH - W

HOU - W

CHI - L

 

= 8th

 

YES, EXTRA SEPTEMBER VICTORIES!

Edited September 30, 2007 by Flash Tizzle

[Palehosefan]

It's a fitting way to end this crappyass season. I just knew it was to good to be true, getting to draft an elite talent. Now we get to hope that one of the elite talent falls and that we are willing to be the big spenders to draft them. Lucky us.

[Flash Tizzle]

Why is Williams talking on the postgame conference as if they're reconsidering Podsednik for next season?

[CWSGuy406]

Here's what it comes down to -- the highest position we can have is eighth, the lowest is tenth.

 

Am I missing something? I think the Sox can still draft 7th.

 

Here's who we can't catch:

 

Tampa, Baltimore, KC, Pitt and Florida.

 

Washington is out of the picture -- they won today so they have 73 wins, the most we can get is 72. Houston has 72, Cincy has 71 and San Fran has 70. The worst the Sox can draft is ninth. The best case scenario is 6th -- that would require San Fran winning tonight and tomorrow, Cincy and Houston winnning tomorrow along with a Sox loss.

 

Of course, the way this final week has went, I'm sure we end up with the worst case scenario of 9th. We suck against lefties but Fields and Konerko are all but guaranteed to combine for three homers and 7 RBIs against Robertson. I'd love to see a 3-2 loss where Contreras goes eight strong and Fields and Richar both hit solo shots but that won't happen either.

[hitlesswonder]

It's a fitting way to end this crappyass season. I just knew it was to good to be true, getting to draft an elite talent. Now we get to hope that one of the elite talent falls and that we are willing to be the big spenders to draft them. Lucky us.

A Jordan Danks overdraft here we come.....

[Flash Tizzle]

Am I missing something? I think the Sox can still draft 7th.

 

Here's who we can't catch:

 

Tampa, Baltimore, KC, Pitt and Florida.

 

Washington is out of the picture -- they won today so they have 73 wins, the most we can get is 72. Houston has 72, Cincy has 71 and San Fran has 70. The worst the Sox can draft is ninth. The best case scenario is 6th -- that would require San Fran winning tonight and tomorrow, Cincy and Houston winnning tomorrow along with a Sox loss.

 

Of course, the way this final week has went, I'm sure we end up with the worst case scenario of 9th. We suck against lefties but Fields and Konerko are all but guaranteed to combine for three homers and 7 RBIs against Robertson. I'd love to see a 3-2 loss where Contreras goes eight strong and Fields and Richar both hit solo shots but that won't happen either.

We won our 72nd game today. Tomorrow is the potential for #73. We can only switch positions with Houston and Washington based on records

 

Hell, even if we did only have the potential for 72 wins it would still be impossible to draft below 8th with the tiebreaker benefiting every other ballclub you mentioned.

Edited September 30, 2007 by Flash Tizzle

[Palehosefan]

Wouldn't suprise me. Might as well draft a faster, less powerful, Ryan Sweeney. Would be fitting yet again.

[hitlesswonder]

Why is Williams talking on the postgame conference as if they're reconsidering Podsednik for next season?

 

Because I'm sure they are. Gotta have a speedy leadoff man. Ozzie already said Fields is not assured of being in Chicago next season.

 

I'm getting the feeling that the Sox won't see a change for the positive until a new general manager is in place.

 

[Palehosefan]

Flash, SF just started playing tonight. If they win, they will reach 71 wins. They would have to win tomorrow and we lose.

[santo=dorf]

Didn't we all come to the conclusion that the slot position is only important if you pick #1 or 2? For all this time we heard "the past 15 years of the Sox not having a top 10 pick is showing" yet here we are with the Sox having a lock for at least the 10th pick and people are still whining. who cares? There are no locks in the MLB draft and I am sure there we be plenty of great players to choose from when the clock starts.

 

The small ball in this game was a fluke. Eddings blew the call at second and Uribe only got a hit because he went into defensive mode because he looked silly on two other bunt attempts. When will Guillen ever learn not to try and have people bunt if they have shown countless times they can't do it?

[Flash Tizzle]

Flash, SF just started playing tonight. If they win, they will reach 71 wins. They would have to win tomorrow and we lose.

Yeah, but you see, it won't matter because they have the tiebreaker. Even if they win today and tomorrow, and we lose tomorrow, they'll still select ahead of us.

 

I only accounted for those with 72/73 wins, although it's quite possibly SF edges out HOU at the 8th position when we're selecting 9th. I don't know which one has the better record from 2006 offhand.

[CWSGuy406]

Didn't we all come to the conclusion that the slot position is only important if you pick #1 or 2? For all this time we heard "the past 15 years of the Sox not having a top 10 pick is showing" yet here we are with the Sox having a lock for at least the 10th pick and people are still whining. who cares? There are no locks in the MLB draft and I am sure there we be plenty of great players to choose from when the clock starts.

 

Really not that hard to understand. The higher you are, the more you have to choose from. Is it a lock? Nope. But I'd still rather have the chance to pick 7th than 10th.

 

But keep spewing the company line. Yay for 73 wins instead of 72 wins -- woohoo!

 

Flash, I got my standings info from baseball-reference -- apparently they were wrong.

[Palehosefan]

I see Flash, didn't pay attention to the tiebreaker.

[Flash Tizzle]

I see Flash, didn't pay attention to the tiebreaker.

Nothing has gone right for us this season. I'm just going to expect the scenario of HOU/WASH losing, us winning, and thus having the 10th pick. It'd only be appropriate.

 

Atleast we can count on a Tim Lincecum type falling to our position, right?

[SkokieSox]

If we miss a future HOF by one slot in the draft, just remember nights such as tonight.

 

One useless victory after another this last week.

 

Come on, you expect them to lay down and just play like s*** for a draft pick? You do that, and that's exactly what you become, s***. One pick, whatever... Besides, what about the fans going to the games, are they supposed to just go in knowing the teams laying down after paying good money. It's stupid, they should play to win and set some momentum for next year.

 

Besides, the draft has show the potential for acquiring a HOF can occur at any spot in the draft. Being in the top ten will not negate us having the opportunity to pick up a high ceiling player.

[CWSGuy406]

Come on, you expect them to lay down and just play like s*** for a draft pick? You do that, and that's exactly what you become, s***. One pick, whatever... Besides, what about the fans going to the games, are they supposed to just go in knowing the teams laying down after paying good money. It's stupid, they should play to win and set some momentum for next year.

 

Why is this constantly brought up? Can you find a spot where someone said they want the players to lay down and play like s***? I haven't seen that.

 

It's just frustrating that a team that is clearly better than us NOW loses to us. I mean, come on, twice this week -- we beat Santana and Buehrle? I don't want Sox players to do bad, but wins mean nothing at this point. We all want meaningful guys to do well -- Fields, Richar probably the biggest two but there's others -- but it still sucks. One spot will almost definitely make a difference, because it is, you know, the Sox.

[Flash Tizzle]

Come on, you expect them to lay down and just play like s*** for a draft pick? You do that, and that's exactly what you become, s***. One pick, whatever... Besides, what about the fans going to the games, are they supposed to just go in knowing the teams laying down after paying good money. It's stupid, they should play to win and set some momentum for next year.

 

Besides, the draft has show the potential for acquiring a HOF can occur at any spot in the draft. Being in the top ten will not negate us having the opportunity to pick up a high ceiling player.

I don't expect them to lay down, I expect(ed) Guillen to place in the scrubs and naturally lose. That'd mean more time for Cintron, Gonzalez, Erstad and Lucy.

f*** the fans, anyways. As a whole their idiots and probably look at a successful offseason as bringing back Aaron Rowand.

 

No, being in the Top 10 does not give us exclusive rights to pick up tremendous players; but it sure doesn't help much selecting 10th when the players we've anticipated to fall aren't available. Hard to believe a generational talent such as Pedro Alvarez will be available at 10. Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey Jr. and Joe Mauer sure didn't make it that far.

Edited September 30, 2007 by Flash Tizzle

[SkokieSox]

Why is this constantly brought up? Can you find a spot where someone said they want the players to lay down and play like s***? I haven't seen that.

 

It's just frustrating that a team that is clearly better than us NOW loses to us. I mean, come on, twice this week -- we beat Santana and Buehrle? I don't want Sox players to do bad, but wins mean nothing at this point. We all want meaningful guys to do well -- Fields, Richar probably the biggest two but there's others -- but it still sucks. One spot will almost definitely make a difference, because it is, you know, the Sox.

 

So you're saying you don't want the players to give up, you just want them to finish poorly for a draft pick? You should hold up a sign at the ball park saying "Try hard, but suck!". Bet it gets you on tv...

[elrockinMT]

Why is Williams talking on the postgame conference as if they're reconsidering Podsednik for next season?

 

 

I would not rule out both Pods and Erstad being back in 2008. Erstad can play all three OF spots, DH and 1B. Pods can play all 3 spots, DH and PR. Ozuna will probably be back and Gonzalez is out. CF is the only real question mark and of course the bullpen

[SkokieSox]

I don't expect them to lay down, I expect(ed) Guillen to place in the scrubs and naturally lose. That'd mean more time for Cintron, Gonzalez, Erstad and Lucy.

f*** the fans, anyways. As a whole their idiots and probably look at a successful offseason as bringing back Aaron Rowand.

 

No, being in the Top 10 does not give us exclusive rights to pick up tremendous players; but it sure doesn't help much selecting 10th when the players we've anticipated to fall aren't available. Hard to believe a generational talent such as Pedro Alvarez will be available at 10. Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey Jr. and Joe Mauer sure didn't make it that far.

 

So... Never mind, it doesn't seem worth it to respond to this.