JDsDirtySox Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3045585 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Could this be proof that steroids aren't "performance enhancing"? Because if his performance was enhanced while on the White Sox, it would be scary to think what he'd do straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 f*** him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I'm sure he wasn't the first Sox to use roids nor will he be the last Sox to use roids/hgh/etc. I can say that about every team in baseball too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 He had them delivered to USCF. It wouldn't surprise me if he was far from the only White Sox using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:11 PM) I'm sure he wasn't the first Sox to use roids nor will he be the last Sox to use roids/hgh/etc. I can say that about every team in baseball too. That doesn't make me any less disappointed by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:22 PM) That doesn't make me any less disappointed by it. Actually, I'm kind of glad it was a guy who sucked. I'm under the impression that the percentage of White Sox who have used steroids is about the same as the percentage for every other team. I would/will be very dissappointed if it comes out it was one or more of the core guys who I have cheered for. I suppose I'm just taking the naive approach . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I always hated that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:25 PM) Actually, I'm kind of glad it was a guy who sucked. I'm under the impression that the percentage of White Sox who have used steroids is about the same as the percentage for every other team. I would/will be very dissappointed if it comes out it was one or more of the core guys who I have cheered for. I suppose I'm just taking the naive approach . I promise that your favorite players have used steroids. Not from any inside knowledge -- or at least that's not the basis of my claim -- but because I think it's clear. With millions at stake and everybody doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Is this where we start the (useless) speculation about which other Sox players on the 2004 team were on 'roids? Oooh, I want to play: Shingo (for sure), Ben Davis, Kelly Dransfeldt, Arnie Munoz and Felix Diaz. There. Oh -- and Timo, that lil bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yet another reason to hate Duke. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:26 PM) Is this where we start the (useless) speculation about which other Sox players on the 2004 team were on 'roids? Oooh, I want to play: Shingo (for sure), Ben Davis, Kelly Dransfeldt, Arnie Munoz and Felix Diaz. There. Oh -- and Timo, that lil bastard. Joe Borchard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:26 PM) Is this where we start the (useless) speculation about which other Sox players on the 2004 team were on 'roids? Oooh, I want to play: Shingo (for sure), Ben Davis, Kelly Dransfeldt, Arnie Munoz and Felix Diaz. There. Oh -- and Timo, that lil bastard. There's no question steroids was a factor getting McCarthy shipped out of town. He's ripped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 03:27 AM) Joe Borchard. Fo' sho'. I also forgot about Mike Jackson. Everybody knows you can't be a major league baseball player at the age of 39. He was definitely on the juice. Willie wasn't, though -- he was all natural. Pure awesome. (I also hope the green isn't needed for these last two posts of mine.) Edited October 2, 2007 by CWSGuy406 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 probably at least half the white sox have used steroids at some point in their baseball careers. Especially Razor Shines who you can see the effects of him getting off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I knew there was a reason I always hated The Show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Markbilliards @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 04:35 AM) probably at least half the white sox have used steroids at some point in their baseball careers. Especially Razor Shines who you can see the effects of him getting off them. Was it steroids that made his name so awesome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Markbilliards @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:35 PM) probably at least half the white sox have used steroids at some point in their baseball careers. Especially Razor Shines who you can see the effects of him getting off them. Razor looks like he lost about 40 lbs. this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 way to cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Real classy to be taking steroids after being a cancer survivor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:11 PM) I'm sure he wasn't the first Sox to use roids nor will he be the last Sox to use roids/hgh/etc. I can say that about every team in baseball too. There is only one player that would break my heart to learn he wasn't clean while on the Sox. One player that seemingly proved you could be clean and great, yet he had a couple injuries that fans of other teams pointed to and claimed it as "proof". I'd hate baseball for a long time if it was true. I started to post that the pressure for marginal guys, those trying to bump up from the 40 to the 25 is probably greatest, but then stopped and realized guys want to start, then they want bigger contracts, then better results for the fans who demand those long home runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The one guy associated with the Sox who I would be shocked if they took HGH/steroids is Paul Konerko. If you've ever seen him in normal street clothes, you would never guess he was a baseball player. And why do people try to be so secretive about saying who the person is that they don't want it to be. We all know it's Miguel Olivo, so just come out and say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 If I ever found out Miguel Olivo did PED's, I'd probably lose faith in all humanity. (and by Miguel Olivo, I obviously mean Timo) (and by Timo, I quite obviously mean Frank; and I wouldn't lose faith in humanity, I'd just really lose a lot of interest in baseball and would probably be a bit shaken up for a little while. That'd be hard seeing my childhood baseball idol turn into a cheater.) (and Bonds isn't nor has he ever been my idol, I just realize he's a ridiculously good baseball player that I'd love to have on my team) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I think because of the abundance of people who were using, it probably didn't really feel like cheating anymore to most players, but more so just trying to level the playing field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Markbilliards @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:35 PM) probably at least half the white sox have used steroids at some point in their baseball careers. Especially Razor Shines who you can see the effects of him getting off them. I hope you are joking. Razor hasn't played ML Baseball for 20 years. He is a 50 year old veteren coach who went on a diet and excersise program because he had gotten way overweight. Jeezz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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