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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 09:27 PM)
We've been through this "Wrigley sucks" nonsense before. I think you guys who hate Wrigley Field have got penis envy. "Oh, my Cubs neighbor will make fun of me." "Oh, the media will care more about the Cubs than the Sox." "Oh, our ballpark is newer -- and it's made of advertisings, not steel, so it's unique!"

 

Nope...the grass sucks (ask Ken Griffey Jr. what he thinks of it), it's embarassing to have a brick wall that could easily injure an outfielder, the park is a joke when the wind is blowing out, and there are a lot of bad seats throughout. As the shirt says "Wrigley Field: World's Largest Gay Bar". :)

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QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:29 PM)
I honestly think the park is a piece of crap. I tried to like it the few times I've been there but I don't get it. If the place had 10K fans in it all the time instead of a full house you most likely wouldn't worship it the way you do.

 

I don't worship Wrigley. I just think it's delightful, and I think that of a few other ballparks as well. Minimal advertisements. Full crowd, always. Green grass, ivy padded walls, comfortable rows and aisles. And I'm definitely not alone, and I'm not even just joined by Cub fans. People from Barry Zito to most baseball writers to many baseball players all love Wrigley Field.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:27 PM)
We've been through this "Wrigley sucks" nonsense before. I think you guys who hate Wrigley Field have got penis envy. "Oh, my Cubs neighbor will make fun of me." "Oh, the media will care more about the Cubs than the Sox." "Oh, our ballpark is newer -- and it's made of advertisings, not steel, so it's unique!"

 

How about I hate the park because I hate the park. Its a dump. Its an old crappy park that doesnt have a lot of amenities. Peeing in a tub doesn't excite me, or give me penis envy. Sitting behind a pylon where I cant see doesnt give me penis envy. Having piece of concrete fall requiring a girdle for the park doesnt give me penis envy. Having a field that floods when it trickles a bit doesnt do it either. We understand it, you like wrigley. Great for you. However not everyone gets the lower half tickle going to the dump.

 

 

 

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QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:33 PM)
Nope...the grass sucks (ask Ken Griffey Jr. what he thinks of it), it's embarassing to have a brick wall that could easily injure an outfielder, the park is a joke when the wind is blowing out, and there are a lot of bad seats throughout. As the shirt says "Wrigley Field: World's Largest Gay Bar". :)

 

Most players would disagree with Griffey, from what I've seen...and besides, you've got your bias from the time the older Cub fan kids at school beat you up and took your Ron Karkovice baseball cards.

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:34 PM)
How about I hate the park because I hate the park. Its a dump. Its an old crappy park that doesnt have a lot of amenities. Peeing in a tub doesn't excite me, or give me penis envy. Sitting behind a pylon where I cant see doesnt give me penis envy. Having piece of concrete fall requiring a girdle for the park doesnt give me penis envy. Having a field that floods when it trickles a bit doesnt do it either. We understand it, you like wrigley. Great for you. However not everyone gets the lower half tickle going to the dump.

 

If we're going to bring up the old embarrassment of the concrete incident...at least people don't shoot the Upper Deck at Wrigley.

 

Point is, every ballpark has some embarrassing anecdote. "WRIGLEY SUX!" Gotcha.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:34 PM)
I don't worship Wrigley. I just think it's delightful, and I think that of a few other ballparks as well. Minimal advertisements. Full crowd, always. Green grass, ivy padded walls, comfortable rows and aisles. And I'm definitely not alone, and I'm not even just joined by Cub fans. People from Barry Zito to most baseball writers to many baseball players all love Wrigley Field.

Are you a hobbit?

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 09:36 PM)
Most players would disagree with Griffey, from what I've seen...and besides, you've got your bias from the time the older Cub fan kids at school beat you up and took your Ron Karkovice baseball cards.

 

Ha....I was hating the Cubs before you were even born. Every baseball player to ever play at Wrigley will tell you that the field conditions are probably the second worst in all of baseball behind Fenway Park. I've been to plenty of Cubs games in my life, and I can't stand going there. From the traffic to the lack of parking to the urinals....it's not a very enjoyable experience.

 

If you have this much of a problem with people criticizing the Cubs and things associated with them, you might want to avoid the DBacks/Cubs thread this week.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:36 PM)
Most players would disagree with Griffey, from what I've seen...and besides, you've got your bias from the time the older Cub fan kids at school beat you up and took your Ron Karkovice baseball cards.

 

Adam Dunn

 

The pirates, and the redbirds

 

Pittsburgh manager Jim Tracy characterized the outfield as "horrendous," saying it was not of major league caliber and was as bad as he'd ever seen in the big leagues.

 

"It's rock-hard, it's as fast as turf, but it looks like there's been a dozen cows out there grazing this week," Pirates left fielder Nate McLouth said.

 

"I'm surprised more people don't get injured out there. It's as bad as there is," said Reds left fielder Adam Dunn. "It's worse than playing in a parking lot. It looks like they had a monster truck rally. It's terrible. There's potholes. It's bad. It's unsafe."

 

It's called beautiful Wrigley Field, but the players who play there see it a bit differently.

 

Phillies center fielder Aaron Rowand is the latest to criticize the actual playing surface at Wrigley that is considered by many to be among the worst in baseball.

 

That surface out there is a little beat up," Bucs center fielder Nyjer Morgan said. "There were some nasty little hops out there. You had to be cautious. It wasn't pristine like it was in San Diego."

 

 

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:42 PM)
Adam Dunn

 

The pirates, and the redbirds

 

Pittsburgh manager Jim Tracy characterized the outfield as "horrendous," saying it was not of major league caliber and was as bad as he'd ever seen in the big leagues.

 

"It's rock-hard, it's as fast as turf, but it looks like there's been a dozen cows out there grazing this week," Pirates left fielder Nate McLouth said.

 

"I'm surprised more people don't get injured out there. It's as bad as there is," said Reds left fielder Adam Dunn. "It's worse than playing in a parking lot. It looks like they had a monster truck rally. It's terrible. There's potholes. It's bad. It's unsafe."

 

It's called beautiful Wrigley Field, but the players who play there see it a bit differently.

 

Phillies center fielder Aaron Rowand is the latest to criticize the actual playing surface at Wrigley that is considered by many to be among the worst in baseball.

 

That surface out there is a little beat up," Bucs center fielder Nyjer Morgan said. "There were some nasty little hops out there. You had to be cautious. It wasn't pristine like it was in San Diego."

You must have made all that up. Wrigley Field is by far the best baseball facility in MLB. I hope they keep that thing up for another 100 years.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:27 PM)
We've been through this "Wrigley sucks" nonsense before. I think you guys who hate Wrigley Field have got penis envy. "Oh, my Cubs neighbor will make fun of me." "Oh, the media will care more about the Cubs than the Sox." "Oh, our ballpark is newer -- and it's made of advertisings, not steel, so it's unique!"

Nope. its just a poorly designed ballpark. The only thing it has going for it is that its old, thats it. The walls are an awkward distance from home plate, the baskets are stupid, the indentations on each foul line are terrible, not to mention there is zero foul territory unless you want to break your leg running up a poorly constructed bullpen mound. The views are obstructed in a great percentage of the lower level, the concourse offers you no view of the field, and you cannot go from the infield to the outfield and vice versa. Its just not that great of a park. Not to mention it has notoriously the worst infield in baseball and an outfield that looks like there was a truck rally on it.

 

 

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:34 PM)
I don't worship Wrigley. I just think it's delightful, and I think that of a few other ballparks as well. Minimal advertisements. Full crowd, always. Green grass, ivy padded walls, comfortable rows and aisles. And I'm definitely not alone, and I'm not even just joined by Cub fans. People from Barry Zito to most baseball writers to many baseball players all love Wrigley Field.

Actually most players HATE wrigley field even the home team. The clubhouses are tiny and not well kept, the field is terrible, the walls are dangerous all the way around.

 

But they DO have that unique GREEN GRASS

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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 09:53 PM)
I was at that game. Rowand and Gooch both went deep, and I had my Arow jersey on.

 

Hey, I had fun at Wrigley!!!

 

I always enjoy the threads when me, you, SSI, and RockRaines are all in agreement. It's like a Podsednik injury.....happens about 4 times a year.

 

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QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:54 PM)
I always enjoy the threads when me, you, SSI, and RockRaines are all in agreement. It's like a Podsednik injury.....happens about 4 times a year.

Haha.

 

Thats so true its ridiculous.

 

I understand how Wrigley is great because of location (now) and that it has so much history. But thats really all it has going for it. Even cubs fans will agree to that, they just weigh the history as more important than actual ballpark amenities and playable surface.

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:49 PM)
Nope. its just a poorly designed ballpark. The only thing it has going for it is that its old, thats it. The walls are an awkward distance from home plate, the baskets are stupid, the indentations on each foul line are terrible, not to mention there is zero foul territory unless you want to break your leg running up a poorly constructed bullpen mound. The views are obstructed in a great percentage of the lower level, the concourse offers you no view of the field, and you cannot go from the infield to the outfield and vice versa. Its just not that great of a park. Not to mention it has notoriously the worst infield in baseball and an outfield that looks like there was a truck rally on it.

I've been on Wrigley Field, I've played on a lot of park district and high school fields that were on par. Another thing about the infield is the slope in foul territory . Guys going after pop fouls towards the stands are running downhill and the incline is a lot steeper than it looks.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 04:27 PM)
We've been through this "Wrigley sucks" nonsense before. I think you guys who hate Wrigley Field have got penis envy. "Oh, my Cubs neighbor will make fun of me." "Oh, the media will care more about the Cubs than the Sox." "Oh, our ballpark is newer -- and it's made of advertisings, not steel, so it's unique!"

 

The only guys I have penis envy of are Ron Jeremy and Peter North.

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For every player, writer or Sox fan you can find who hates Wrigley, I'm sure I can find a counterpart who enjoys the place. And that's all I have to add to this discussion since there is no victory and the "discussion" would be endless and mind-numbing ("Wrigley is a dump," "I like Sox Park churros," "HAIL" -- f*** that)

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 3, 2007 -> 10:07 PM)
For every player, writer or Sox fan you can find who hates Wrigley, I'm sure I can find a counterpart who enjoys the place. And that's all I have to add to this discussion since there is no victory and the "discussion" would be endless and mind-numbing ("Wrigley is a dump," "I like Sox Park churros," "HAIL" -- f*** that)

 

Doesn't Ozzie Guillen hate the place and didn't he say he wishes it was destroyed?

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