IlliniKrush Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Savvy is considering bringing Toews back Sunday in a special teams only role. I'm out of f***ing words at this point. Good f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I could care less whether he goes now or later. You could have dan kelly coach the damn team the rest of the way and he'd do a better job than Savvy. He'll likely last the year, but I hope he's axed immediately after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 07:23 PM) I could care less whether he goes now or later. You could have dan kelly coach the damn team the rest of the way and he'd do a better job than Savvy. He'll likely last the year, but I hope he's axed immediately after. Oh, who are you kidding, you'd have the Dan Kelly Random Line Generator within a week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(The Critic @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 07:53 PM) Oh, who are you kidding, you'd have the Dan Kelly Random Line Generator within a week!! Though I was clearly joking about kelly coaching, now that I think about it, that would get him out of the broadcast booth. Maybe I'm onto something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Think DT could talk Scotty Bowman to come back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I have a feeling Ruutu is going to put an elbow in Iginla's face before this game ends. Also, Buf throwing some hard ass checks in this game. Rocked Phaneuf and Regher within about 10 seconds of eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Buf needs to watch Holmstrom to see how he should play the front of the net.....I actually like him playing forward now though. He could be a good "power" forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 09:43 PM) Which is exactly what the Hawks need. I have never seen a big man play so soft as Buff did last night. They really need to light a fire under his ass, because Dustin could be a huge asset to this team. I think he got the message tonight. He has been throwing his weight around and parking in front of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 09:43 PM) Which is exactly what the Hawks need. I have never seen a big man play so soft as Buff did last night. They really need to light a fire under his ass, because Dustin could be a huge asset to this team. Eric Daze ring a bell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Bulin has been amazing tonight. I really hope they pull out a win for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 And there's a long belated win. Sounds like the Bulin Wall played well. Nice to get a bit of offense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 This is why Savvy shouldn't have ever been giving the coaching job... seriously its horrible that they're going to have to fire this guy. He's a Hawk Legend, loves the organization, and has been loyal... but he's seriously holding this team back. I just don't think he's technically, pardon my pun "savvy" enough to be a head coach in the NHL... he ran the power play for a couple of years - its consistently ranked last or next to last in the league. If DT had hired Ted Nolan instead of Trent Yawney... this team would have progressed much quicker than they have. Oh well, hindsight 20/20, all that good stuff. EDIT: Yes I know the Islanders are struggling this year... i still think nolan is a great coach, who may or may not have had sex with Dominik Hasek's wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) Khabibulin stepped it up last night and looked like a #1 goaltender being paid 6.5 mill per season. If the Hawks want to hang onto any SLIM chance of competing for a playoffs spot this year, Bulin has to be at his best. I have a lot of doubt that he could step it up considering he'd lost 10 in a row before last night... but if he does, we still have a chance with Toews close. Edited February 8, 2008 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I only watched the second half of the 2nd and most of 3rd and Bulin was great and the defense looked really good. The lack of forward play on this team is down right scary. Ruutu and Sharp and Kane sporadically were the only guys that looked like they were doing anything. Sorry but Havlat is an embarassment right now. Why Ruutu hasn't been on the first two lines all season is mind boggling. If DT goes after defense instead of offense this team will be going nowhere. Even if Williams and Toews are healthy they have no depth beyond their first two lines. I am writing Havlat off BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 09:20 AM) Why Ruutu hasn't been on the first two lines all season is mind boggling. I think once Toews is back (Sunday?) you'll see the return of the Ruutu-Toews-Kane line. Havlat's obviously too concerned about his shoulder to get in there and go 100%. He needs to be shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I saw the first period and most of the second, and Ruutu played a hell of a game. He was barrelling out there, pressing the Flames, getting scoring chances. It was the best I've seen him play in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 09:20 AM) Why Ruutu hasn't been on the first two lines all season is mind boggling. I'm the biggest Ruutu apologist ever... but there is no way defend the way he played earlier in the year. He didn't deserve to play on the top 2 lines, because he wasn't willing to play the kind of power forward role Savvy designed for him. Yes, he's played better, with more energy and more physicality, but he still hasnt scored a goal in 24 games! He's gone more than a quarter of the season without a GOAL! I love rudy, I think he's been injured a major portion of his career which has hampered his development... but he's third line player on a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 08:33 AM) Khabibulin stepped it up last night and looked like a #1 goaltender being paid 6.5 mill per season. If the Hawks want to hang onto any SLIM chance of competing for a playoffs spot this year, Bulin has to be at his best. I have a lot of doubt that he could step it up considering he'd lost 10 in a row before last night... but if he does, we still have a chance with Toews close. Toews better be healthy... thats all I care about. If he's just coming to play on special teams... its the worst coaching decision I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 10:23 PM) I'm the biggest Ruutu apologist ever... but there is no way defend the way he played earlier in the year. He didn't deserve to play on the top 2 lines, because he wasn't willing to play the kind of power forward role Savvy designed for him. Ruutu wasn't scoring, but the line was dominant. Ruutu was opening up space for Kane and Toews just by hitting everything in site. Ruutu's also one of the better players on this team at mucking in the corners -- guys like Lang, Havlat and (to an extent) Sharp don't do that. They certainly don't hit like Ruutu does, either. I'll continue to say that Ruutu has the skill-set to score goals. He hasn't this year, but there's no reason -- with other good players, not third line muckers -- that Ruutu can't or won't score goals. He's 24 years old. Obviously if he starts asking to be paid big money this offseason, you go in a different direction. But for now, there's really no reason Ruutu shouldn't be playing in the top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) Ruutu wasn't scoring, but the line was dominant. Ruutu was opening up space for Kane and Toews just by hitting everything in site. Ruutu's also one of the better players on this team at mucking in the corners -- guys like Lang, Havlat and (to an extent) Sharp don't do that. They certainly don't hit like Ruutu does, either. I'll continue to say that Ruutu has the skill-set to score goals. He hasn't this year, but there's no reason -- with other good players, not third line muckers -- that Ruutu can't or won't score goals. He's 24 years old. Obviously if he starts asking to be paid big money this offseason, you go in a different direction. But for now, there's really no reason Ruutu shouldn't be playing in the top six. Ruutu - Toews - Kane was "dominant" for about 10-15 games in the beginning of the year and then they didnt register any points for two weeks. Tuomo has good hands, and a good shot.... but I don't think he's a good enough skater to score consistently in the league (maybe a result of knee injuries). When Rudy brings the energy, throws his body around, hes a good player to have on the team... but that's not a given. To take a line from your own argument, he should play top six "for now" when the team is barely keeping themselves in the race. A good team, would have Ruutu producing or playing 3rd line minutes. Williams Lang Havlat Sharp Toews Kane Ruutu Perrault Byfuglien/Bourque these lines make more sense in my opinion, when Jason Williams heals up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Scott Morrison Feb 9th (Carle, Seabrook, Forsberg, and Blake oh my!) A very rough paraphrase of what Scott Morrison of CBC reported around 2:45pm pacific... San Jose wants more offense from their defense, and Wilson has always been particularly fond of Wade Redden. Ottawa is not the only team interested in Matt Carle...Florida and Washington are also scouting him. San Jose is looking at Brent Seabrook. I say hell no unless Marleau is a part of this deal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 11:05 PM) To take a line from your own argument, he should play top six "for now" when the team is barely keeping themselves in the race. A good team, would have Ruutu producing or playing 3rd line minutes. Williams Lang Havlat Sharp Toews Kane Ruutu Perrault Byfuglien/Bourque I'd be okay with that, but I'd have Bolland centering with Ruutu and whoever on the other side (Skille?). My contention is having Ruutu (a) playing with scrubs like Adams, Eager, Lapointe and/or Burish and ( B ) play on these 3rd and 4th lines when it's OBVIOUS that he's better than some guys ahead of him (mainly St Pierre). Also -- Williams isn't going to be back for a while, so Ruutu should certainly be top six at least until then. And I wouldn't even trade Seabrook straight up for Patrick Marleau. Marleau is very good, don't get me wrong, but Seabrook is blossoming very nicely into a (at the very worst) middle pairing defender. And San Jose can "look" at Seabrook all they want... Hell, they can "look" at Toews and Kane and Keith, too -- those guys aren't going anywhere. Edited February 10, 2008 by CWSGuy406 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Obviously this is from Eklund so TIFWIW....but he is saying the Sabres are interested in Seabrook. Like said before they can be interested all they want because Seabrook should stay a Hawk, unless its a deal that completely blows you away and fills a lot of needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 The Untouchables: Kane Toews Keith Seabrook Sharp, Wiz, Havlat, Sopel, Lang all have their varying degrees of value but still.... if theres a deal to be made, been nice knowing ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 9, 2008 -> 07:49 PM) Also -- Williams isn't going to be back for a while, so Ruutu should certainly be top six at least until then. He's actually scheduled to be back next Sunday, and assuming he's actually healthy i think he will help balance out the offense as it was earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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