southsider2k5 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_ne...ory/309907.html Bell leaving Royals to become White Sox’s minor-league field coordinator By BOB DUTTON The Kansas City Star Former Royals manager Buddy Bell sure didn’t last long in his new job as a senior advisor to general manager Dayton Moore. Bell plans to leave the Royals at the end of the month to become the minor-league field coordinator for the Chicago White Sox. The position enables him to take part in on-field instruction but retain a flexible schedule unavailable as a big-league manager or coach. That flexibility and a longstanding friendship with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf were the key components in convincing Bell to take the job. “Jerry Reinsdorf is a close friend of mine,” Bell said, “and that’s really the reason I did it. Plus I enjoy that job. I’m still going to be able to do it out of my home. So I’ll still be able to spend the same kind of time (with the family) that I was going to be able to do with Kansas City. It’ll work out well. “I really liked the idea of what Kansas City was offering, but this is really more in line with what I’m comfortable with.” Bell, 56, announced his intention Aug. 1 to step aside as Royals manager at the end of the season in order to spend increased time with his family. Doing so, he said, became a heightened priority over the last year following his recovery from throat cancer. “I’ll be able to (be on the field) as much as I want,” Bell said. “In Kansas City, I would have been at a lot of big-league games, scouting — which would have been fine. But this job is really appealing to me in that I’ve done it before. I know a lot of the people over here.” The Royals created a front-office job for Bell in an effort to meet his request for a less-demanding daily schedule. Moore said there are no immediate plans to fill the position. “If somebody comes along who I think is an impact staff member,” Moore said, “we’ll do something. But if not, then no.” Officially, Bell will remain employed by the Royals through Oct. 31. His new job in Chicago is actually an old job; he held the same position for the White Sox from 1991-93 shortly after his retirement following an 18-year playing career. The position involves the coordination of all on-field activities for the organization’s minor-league clubs. “I think he wants to do something that has more of a defined role,” Moore said. “The role that he had with us was more flexible — being involved in a lot of different things but not any particular leadership position where he was leading people. I think that’s what he wants to do.” The White Sox were one of several teams that approached the Royals in recent weeks in regard to hiring Bell in some capacity. “I didn’t consider it at first,” Bell said, “because the Kansas City situation was so appealing, and I liked the people. But if I’m not going to manage, then this is a great job. “There’s nothing like seeing a young player realize his dreams. That’s the best part of coaching.” Bell compiled a 174-262 record in two-plus seasons as Royals manager after being hired May 31, 2005, as the permanent replacement for Tony Peña. Bell also managed Detroit and Colorado and compiled a 519-724 overall record in parts of nine seasons. Moore said the Royals’ search for a new manager remains a work in progress and indicated earlier this week that no decision is likely before the World Series concludes. The club’s list of candidates is believed to include former managers Jim Fregosi, Ken Macha and Jimy Williams; Braves coaches Chino Cadahia, Terry Pendleton and Brian Snitker; Royals bench coach Billy Doran and former Royals player Frank White. To reach Bob Dutton, Royals reporter for The Star, call 816-234-4352 or send e-mail to [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Great move. Good baseball guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hitlesswonder Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 03:24 PM) Great move. Good baseball guy. Or, one more sign the Sox are becoming the Royals with $100M payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think Buddy Bell was doing some good things with the young Royals and hopefully he can help with our minor league players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Sweet. Ozzie also always spoke very highly of Bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Solid move. We need help with development, and at least they went outside the org for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 08:25 PM) Or, one more sign the Sox are becoming the Royals with $100M payroll. Nice. It took 4 posts for someone to s*** all over this. I love the continued negativity with everything Sox, so why the hell even be a fan if all that can be said is negative spew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 04:14 PM) Nice. It took 4 posts for someone to s*** all over this. I love the continued negativity with everything Sox, so why the hell even be a fan if all that can be said is negative spew?Why not just become a Cubs fan if all you wanted was some rah rah, everything is alright, the sun will come out tomorrow, wait til next year crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 As far as I can tell, this is a brand new position (for 2008 anyways). I don't see anyone in the 2007 media guide with the same title as Bell will have. Nate Oliver, the organization's bunting and baserunning coach, was let go. I expect more additions/changes over the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I hope this isn't the biggest off-season splash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 04:14 PM) Nice. It took 4 posts for someone to s*** all over this. I love the continued negativity with everything Sox, so why the hell even be a fan if all that can be said is negative spew? Well, maybe if we mock the Sox enough for having a $100M payroll and being marginally better than KC the organization (which I'm sure reads this bnoard religiously) will feel shame and do a better job. Anyway, for some positivity, here: I wish Bell well and hope whatever he'll be doing improves the Sox organization. And Fautino De Los Santos sure looked good in that Futures Game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I like Bell. It's a good step to have someone new instructing. Good show1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 09:27 PM) Why not just become a Cubs fan if all you wanted was some rah rah, everything is alright, the sun will come out tomorrow, wait til next year crap? Not saying that, Cheat. You know better then that. But good lord, it just gets crazy looking at the downside all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 A few days ago they were talking on TBS about organizations that do baseball a certain way -- I believe they mentioned the Angels and the Twins, and I would add the Braves, offhand, to organizations that stress fundamentals from the lowest depths of the system all the way to the top, indoctrinating their players from the beginning. Clearly these organizations value defense, fundamental baserunning, opposite field hitting, good approaches at the plate, etc. etc. And it got me thinking: do the White Sox have a system? A White Sox way? I know some, including good friends of mine, argue in defense of Greg Walker by saying, "I'm sure he's the one who tells the hitters to close their eyes and swing as hard as they can." It's a good point, no? But then you look at our system, from the minor leagues up, and you think about our defenders, our hitters, our baserunning -- it's abysmal, and so I really wonder how coherent our organization is. Do we stress things from the beginning all the way to the top? If we do, if we really do, putting much emphasis on these things, then why do we suck so bad at most of them? Why are we now and have for the longest time a terrible offensive team beyond the homerun? Do players tune out the coaches or are they never taught? Whichever it is is an unhappy reality, right? I mean, if players don't listen, then what does that say about them? If our coaches aren't competent, what does that say? I just wish I didn't have to associate my team's system with softball. I guess I'm happy with the Buddy Bell signing, as a result, but only if it's a serious beginning to a complete and drastic overhaul of the way this organization does things. I don't have high hopes, as I question this organization's leadership, but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Great move by the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 05:30 PM) Great move by the Sox. Agreed! I always liked Buddy Bell and liked the way he played the game. Good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Awesome..he was doing a great job with the young players in KC.. hell he almost beat us for 4th place! I was hoping he would be our new bench coach but i know bow bad we need to re-establish the farm system.. nice move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 05:15 PM) A few days ago they were talking on TBS about organizations that do baseball a certain way -- I believe they mentioned the Angels and the Twins, and I would add the Braves, offhand, to organizations that stress fundamentals from the lowest depths of the system all the way to the top, indoctrinating their players from the beginning. Clearly these organizations value defense, fundamental baserunning, opposite field hitting, good approaches at the plate, etc. etc. And it got me thinking: do the White Sox have a system? A White Sox way? I know some, including good friends of mine, argue in defense of Greg Walker by saying, "I'm sure he's the one who tells the hitters to close their eyes and swing as hard as they can." It's a good point, no? But then you look at our system, from the minor leagues up, and you think about our defenders, our hitters, our baserunning -- it's abysmal, and so I really wonder how coherent our organization is. Do we stress things from the beginning all the way to the top? If we do, if we really do, putting much emphasis on these things, then why do we suck so bad at most of them? Why are we now and have for the longest time a terrible offensive team beyond the homerun? Do players tune out the coaches or are they never taught? Whichever it is is an unhappy reality, right? I mean, if players don't listen, then what does that say about them? If our coaches aren't competent, what does that say? I just wish I didn't have to associate my team's system with softball. I guess I'm happy with the Buddy Bell signing, as a result, but only if it's a serious beginning to a complete and drastic overhaul of the way this organization does things. I don't have high hopes, as I question this organization's leadership, but we'll see. The White Sox way appears to be calling kids up who have no idea how to steal bases if they can run. They have no idea how to run the bases. They don't know where to throw the ball. Situational hitting is new. Bunting is like an organic chemistry class.They apparently haven't been told of a cut-off man yet. Then what the Sox do, is get a group of coaches to help teach them these things at the major league level. When that doesn't work, the coach that has been with the team the fewest seasons gets let go, and another is brought into his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Well, maybe if we mock the Sox enough for having a $100M payroll and being marginally better than KC the organization (which I'm sure reads this bnoard religiously) will feel shame and do a better job. I've asked a number of people a number of times if they read the White Sox message boards. The answer I've consistently heard is no. Now it's possible they may be lying and I'm sure someone will add a post correcting me or saying just the opposite, that so and so reads it as does so and so. But thinking they'll read this board, feel shame, and do a better job? Highly doubtful. They don't come here to gather ideas for personnel or development moves, that's for sure. I did have a very high ranking White Sox guy tell me "they're message boards, and message boards have a lot of misconceptions, bad assumptions, and misinformation". Quote. They are one heck of a lot more upset about 2007 than anyone here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 06:15 PM) A few days ago they were talking on TBS about organizations that do baseball a certain way -- I believe they mentioned the Angels and the Twins, and I would add the Braves, offhand, to organizations that stress fundamentals from the lowest depths of the system all the way to the top, indoctrinating their players from the beginning. Clearly these organizations value defense, fundamental baserunning, opposite field hitting, good approaches at the plate, etc. etc. And it got me thinking: do the White Sox have a system? A White Sox way? I know some, including good friends of mine, argue in defense of Greg Walker by saying, "I'm sure he's the one who tells the hitters to close their eyes and swing as hard as they can." It's a good point, no? But then you look at our system, from the minor leagues up, and you think about our defenders, our hitters, our baserunning -- it's abysmal, and so I really wonder how coherent our organization is. Do we stress things from the beginning all the way to the top? If we do, if we really do, putting much emphasis on these things, then why do we suck so bad at most of them? Why are we now and have for the longest time a terrible offensive team beyond the homerun? Do players tune out the coaches or are they never taught? Whichever it is is an unhappy reality, right? I mean, if players don't listen, then what does that say about them? If our coaches aren't competent, what does that say? I just wish I didn't have to associate my team's system with softball. I guess I'm happy with the Buddy Bell signing, as a result, but only if it's a serious beginning to a complete and drastic overhaul of the way this organization does things. I don't have high hopes, as I question this organization's leadership, but we'll see. i know what you are saying, but i certainly don't think the sox don't value defense....ive actually been fairly impressed with the defense of many of our youngsters (fields being the main exception, but lets be realistic, hes not on the major league team cuz he can catch the ball....as far as a pitching aspect goes, it has seemed clear to me that the sox value starters who can throw strikes and put movement on their fastballs (sinkers or two seamers: ie broadway, mculloch poreda, egbert, danks etc) and have their big time power arms for the bullpen....it also seems to me that as an organization an emphasis has been placed on starters with quality or changeups, or at least trying to develop changeups (gio, danks, egbert, broadway garland a few years back) in terms of offense i have no idea....the sox certainly dont value plate discipline like they should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 05:47 PM) The White Sox way appears to be calling kids up who have no idea how to steal bases if they can run. They have no idea how to run the bases. They don't know where to throw the ball. Situational hitting is new. Bunting is like an organic chemistry class.They apparently haven't been told of a cut-off man yet. Then what the Sox do, is get a group of coaches to help teach them these things at the major league level. When that doesn't work, the coach that has been with the team the fewest seasons gets let go, and another is brought into his place. Hey...we do it our way! /Kenny Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 love this move... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 this reminds me back in around 88 or 89 larry himes was trying to sign some cheap veteran free agents to help our miserable team. none of them would come. he tried buddy bell, keith hernandez, and willie randolph...larry parrish. there were others but i can't remember. those were the days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I applaud the move. One thing Bell showed me managing the Royals is he seems to know when to give up on guys. Berroa, Burgos to name a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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