Buddy Bell joining the White Sox

[SoxAce]

Excellent move by the sox for once.

[fathom]

Good move....anything that shakes up our minor league coaching/development is a positive.

[hitlesswonder]

I've asked a number of people a number of times if they read the White Sox message boards. The answer I've consistently heard is no. Now it's possible they may be lying and I'm sure someone will add a post correcting me or saying just the opposite, that so and so reads it as does so and so.

 

But thinking they'll read this board, feel shame, and do a better job? Highly doubtful. They don't come here to gather ideas for personnel or development moves, that's for sure.

I was absolutely joking when I wrote that they read the board religiously (is there a color for being facetious?). I would be wildly surprised if they read the board. And there's no way that something some yahoo posted on a board (and by yahoo I mean me) would guilt the Sox into anything. That's probably for the best....

 

 

[SkokieSox]

Why not just become a Cubs fan if all you wanted was some rah rah, everything is alright, the sun will come out tomorrow, wait til next year crap?

 

Are you kidding? BS comment...

[greg775]

Buddy Bell is highly thought of in KC.

Good man it appears.

Been in baseball a long time.

Cheers.

[Soxfest]

I like it.

[southsider2k5]

I've asked a number of people a number of times if they read the White Sox message boards. The answer I've consistently heard is no. Now it's possible they may be lying and I'm sure someone will add a post correcting me or saying just the opposite, that so and so reads it as does so and so.

 

But thinking they'll read this board, feel shame, and do a better job? Highly doubtful. They don't come here to gather ideas for personnel or development moves, that's for sure.

 

I did have a very high ranking White Sox guy tell me "they're message boards, and message boards have a lot of misconceptions, bad assumptions, and misinformation". Quote.

 

They are one heck of a lot more upset about 2007 than anyone here.

 

Seriously, if anything thinks they are somekind of crusader or activist by posting stuff on a message board, you got it all wrong. NO one is changing a damned thing based on something on an anonymus message board. That is just insane.

 

BTW, I love the Sox official's quote. Perfect.

[klaus kinski]

Someone said it earlier, but the key here is that he is from a DIFFERENT organization, one that actually at one time had a Baseball academy that produced some fine young players like Frank White and others. While those times passed, they still produced a Johnny Damon, a Carlos Beltran and others. Its a terrific move by the Sox

[witesoxfan]

Someone said it earlier, but the key here is that he is from a DIFFERENT organization, one that actually at one time had a Baseball academy that produced some fine young players like Frank White and others. While those times passed, they still produced a Johnny Damon, a Carlos Beltran and others. Its a terrific move by the Sox

 

It's good to bring someone in from outside, but I'm pretty sure Buddy Bell had little to absolutely nothing at all to do with Beltran, Damon, and White. You can hire Jerry Manuel and say he had something to do with the development of Jack McDowell, Alex Fernandez, and Frank Thomas, but it'd be false.

[klaus kinski]

You're right Bell didnt-I was more referring to young players in that organization that do develop and move on and do well. Its "the Royals way" and thats what I hope he brings here. In my opinion only the Twins do it better.

[RockRaines]

You're right Bell didnt-I was more referring to young players in that organization that do develop and move on and do well. Its "the Royals way" and thats what I hope he brings here. In my opinion only the Twins do it better.

Than the Royals? Even with those stellar players the Royals have been bottom dwellers. Why so much love here for an organization that really hasnt produced that many solid players in the last several years? Angels do it better, Braves, Boston has, Yankees as of late, Cleveland, detroit, Milwaukee, Colorado, Arizona on and on. These teams have all produced better homegrown talent than the Royals.

[Gregory Pratt]

"they're message boards, and message boards have a lot of misconceptions, bad assumptions, and misinformation"

 

Yeah? So does the organization.

 

/green

 

Really, they're right. I already believe this organization mediocre -- I'd riot if it came out that they make decisions based on message board posts. I already believe that they brought Podsednik back because 1. it was cheaper than any alternative 2. it would bring the twelve year old girls in.

[greg775]

I did have a very high ranking White Sox guy tell me "they're message boards, and message boards have a lot of misconceptions, bad assumptions, and misinformation". Quote.

 

That guy/girl is right, of course.

The good thing about this board and reason to click on it is you get good Sox

discussion, great Sox discussion from longtime and newcomer fans.

Nothing wrong with that.

I doubt I'd read it if I worked for the Sox. They get enough discussion about the team

at the ballpark on a daily basis.

The high ranking Sox guy also probably doesn't listen to the talk shows.

This is a good forum, though.

Personal attacks are rare and nobody is so mean or anal to drive anybody else away.

I give this board the highest recommendation.

Some of the people on here with some additional job training obviously could work

for the White Sox. Why not? It's not like we are all toothless idiots who flunked out.

Edited October 10, 2007 by greg775

[29andPoplar]

I already believe that they brought Podsednik back because 1. it was cheaper than any alternative 2. it would bring the twelve year old girls in.

 

A perfect example of what the White Sox guy said.

[NorthSideSox72]

A perfect example of what the White Sox guy said.

Eh, his point #1 isn't far off. Pods was affordable.

 

[kapkomet]

A perfect example of what the White Sox guy said.

No kidding. I love rubbish.

 

 

[fathom]

A perfect example of what the White Sox guy said.

 

Didn't KW say that he was shocked by how much guys like Pierre and Roberts were getting offered, so he thought that Pods, at the price they could bring him back at, was the better baseball decision?

 

[Gregory Pratt]

Didn't KW say that he was shocked by how much guys like Pierre and Roberts were getting offered, so he thought that Pods, at the price they could bring him back at, was the better baseball decision?

 

I think the first part of what I said is indisputable, as the organization itself made it clear that the crazy contracts just weren't with it so we'd prefer Podsednik at his price than others at theirs. But as for my second contention, Podsednik is a cash cow at the ballpark and people love him at the yard. I think it's naive to think that had nothing to do with it, especially since Owens could've been Podsednik for very, very cheap.

[Balta1701]

I think the first part of what I said is indisputable, as the organization itself made it clear that the crazy contracts just weren't with it so we'd prefer Podsednik at his price than others at theirs. But as for my second contention, Podsednik is a cash cow at the ballpark and people love him at the yard. I think it's naive to think that had nothing to do with it, especially since Owens could've been Podsednik for very, very cheap.

Owens in 06 didn't show me any real signs that he was ready to take that job in 07. His 07 AAA numbers were a decent step up across the board before he was called up the first time, and even then it didn't really take until the 2nd callup.

[Gregory Pratt]

Podsednik in 06 showed that he is done as anything resembling a good payroll.

[29andPoplar]

Didn't KW say that he was shocked by how much guys like Pierre and Roberts were getting offered, so he thought that Pods, at the price they could bring him back at, was the better baseball decision?

 

The quote was, cheaper than any alternative and then the 12 yr. old girl part. I assume GP was being facetious about the 12 yr. old girl statement because I've seen his posts here and he's much smarter than to believe that.

 

As for the cheaper than any alternative, no, that is not true. As someone above alluded to, Owens was a cheaper alternative and Erstad was a cheaper alternative and Anderson in effect was a cheaper alternative too. Any of the three could have started in LF over Podsednik.

 

From piecing everything together, it is somewhat as you say. Podsednik was in my opinion clearly a 2nd or maybe 3rd choice. They could have just cut the cord with him even after not getting far with Pierre or Dave Roberts or whoever else. In hindsight they should have cut the cord. However they took a calculated risk and thought he could stay reasonably healthy. He didn't obviously but it's not as if Podsednik doesn't work hard to get in shape. In fact many say he works too hard. But it didn't work out and was a bad decision.

 

They could have gone totally cheap and stated the job is Owens' coming into spring. They didn't do that.

[Gregory Pratt]

The quote was, cheaper than any alternative and then the 12 yr. old girl part. I assume GP was being facetious about the 12 yr. old girl statement because I've seen his posts here and he's much smarter than to believe that.

 

As for the cheaper than any alternative, no, that is not true. As someone above alluded to, Owens was a cheaper alternative and Erstad was a cheaper alternative and Anderson in effect was a cheaper alternative too. Any of the three could have started in LF over Podsednik.

 

From piecing everything together, it is somewhat as you say. Podsednik was in my opinion clearly a 2nd or maybe 3rd choice. They could have just cut the cord with him even after not getting far with Pierre or Dave Roberts or whoever else. In hindsight they should have cut the cord. However they took a calculated risk and thought he could stay reasonably healthy. He didn't obviously but it's not as if Podsednik doesn't work hard to get in shape. In fact many say he works too hard. But it didn't work out and was a bad decision.

 

They could have gone totally cheap and stated the job is Owens' coming into spring. They didn't do that.

 

I was being facetious about the twelve year old girl part but I definitely mean it when I say that fan support -- which in Podsednik's case is limited to twelve year old girls -- played a role.