Fantasy Basketball: Offered Trade Need Advice

[ChWRoCk2]

I was offered a really tough trade a couple of minutes ago.

 

Normally I can decide on my own but this one was tough.

 

 

I send:

 

Dwyane Wade

Udonis Haslem

 

I get:

 

Brandon Roy

Monta Ellis

Andrea Bargnani

 

 

Heres my team, yahoo 10 man league standard cats:

 

PG Dwyane Wade

SG Manu Ginobli

G Chauncey Billups

SF Antwan Jamison

PF Danny Granger

F Jermaine O Neal

C Al Jefferson

C Samuel Dalembert

Util Darko Milicic

Util David Lee

BN Kyle Korver

BN Udonis Haslem

BN Mikki Moore

BN Acie Law

 

I like the trade because Roy should put up bigger numbers and I could really use a backup guard and assists in general. Plus Wade is a health risk. Though if Darko and Lee have the big years I expect them too its really kinda pointless for me to make I think.

 

Another thing If I accept it would it get vetoed and should I just counter and throw in Acie for the hell of it.

[ZoomSlowik]

I've got a couple of thoughts, some things to think about for and against:

 

1) Though he obviously has some upside Roy was essentially the same player as Manu last year, Bargnani gives you a lot of the same things as Granger, and Ellis gives you basically the same thing as Wade only a lot less of it. Ellis also might see his playing time dip a bit with the arrival of Bellineli (though I personally doubt it). They don't really add anything to your team in most categories, other than some depth. You also lose a fair number of points, assists and your FG% takes a hit by making the trade, especially since Wade shoots so much. The first and third could hurt you a bit, as Wade is your only elite scorer and Billups and O'Neal are a bit of a drag on the FG%. On the other hand, the biggest gain you make is actually a subtraction, in that you don't have to deal with Wade's obscene turnover totals. You've got a monster turnover-prevention team without him. You also gain a bunch of 3's with Bargnani and Roy, though you already have four 100+ guys in Billups, Ginobili, Jamison, and Granger. You could also kinda use the depth.

 

2) You'd be trading a top-level talent for guys that aren't really elite players. Wade went in the first for a reason, he's a beast that helps you a ton in points, assists and steals as well as having a major positive impact in FG and FT%, especially with his number of attempts. Roy, Ellis, and Bargnani are all solid players, but none of them is will beat the production of a healthy Wade. Especially in a shallower league, having those elite producers is a major asset.

 

 

I guess it kind of depends on your risk tolerance and how much you believe in the guys you are getting. It also depends on what route you want to go with your team. You can keep Wade and benefit from his all-around production or take the deal and have a team that won't turn it over much and will hopefully make up the production you lose.

 

Is the scoring roto or head-to-head? If it's roto, you should probably do it as the trade could mean a 6-point swing in turnovers and you'd gain a few in 3's to compensate, if it's head to head it's a bit easier to swallow those TO's and his dominance can carry you in a given week.

 

I personally wouldn't do it. We know that Wade is an elite performer that was still pretty effective even at less than 100% at the end of last year, you're not as sure exactly what you're going to get from those other guys. So far he shouldn't miss a whole lot of time, though you don't entirely know. He's a super-elite performer though when healthy, those are the kind of guys you need. Also, in a shallower league you'll likely be able to pick up some pretty solid performers once the season starts to improve your depth (Honestly, why are some of those guys even on your team? You should be able to find better than guys like Moore and Law without a whole lot of difficulty).

 

If you're really worried about Wade, I'd try to counter with Roy, Ellis, and another G/F that's a bit more of a sure-thing than Bargnani, or try to snag someone that's a bit more of a sure-thing to put up good numbers than Roy like Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, or Andre Iguoudala. I'm personally not all that sold on Roy dominating (though I have to admit it is possible), he's not quite an elite level scorer or athlete and it's going to be harder for him to rack up higher assist totals with Oden out. He doesn't really dominate in any one category, which is why I think he's rated just a bit too high. He will improve a bit, but that could be negated by the increased defensive attention he gets with Randolph gone. I'd expect fairly similar numbers this year.

Edited October 15, 2007 by ZoomSlowik

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Find out the severity of Wade and Roy's injuries first...

[ChWRoCk2]

Well right now Im putting it off, but its a head to head league.

 

Have some more important difficult issues to deal with Just see for yourself two of the worst trades ever that I vetoed and the people involved believe they are fair, jesus.

 

Team A Sends:

 

Ben Wallace

Andrei Kirilenko

Jamaal Tinsley

 

Team B Sends:

 

Jason Terry

 

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Team B Sends:

 

Tayshaun Prince

Jameer Nelson

 

Team C Sends:

 

Gilbert Arenas

Carmelo Anthony

 

I think we can all agree they were both unfair the first trade more than the second.

 

 

Yeah I was unsure of Roys and Wades injuries so I most likely wont accept it.

[ZoomSlowik]

Yikes, that second one is far more brutal. The guy giving up Arenas and Melo is clearly finishing last...

 

If you can afford to wait a bit, Wade's injury situation obviously can affect things quite a bit. If you hear next week that he's playing in an exhibition game (which appears unlikely) you definitely can't deal him, if he gets set back you might want to consider moving him (though obviously it'd be too late). In a head-to-head league it's not the end of the world if you have a bad November though, as long as he's healthy in March and April, which he should be.

Edited October 16, 2007 by ZoomSlowik