SoxAce Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Remember we started off 3-9 last year and still made the playoffs. I'm definitely not off the bulls bandwagon but they better step it up and soon. There TOs and defense has been bad so far. Not to mention inconsistant shooting and not stepping up to the FT line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Not exactly surprising, you have a team that's been struggling quite a bit offensively and then one of your few capable scorers gets hurt. They need Deng back FAST, unless Gordon scores about 30 or they somehow find a more inept offensive team they have no chance right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 10:42 PM) Remember we started off 3-9 last year and still made the playoffs. I'm definitely not off the bulls bandwagon but they better step it up and soon. There TOs and defense has been bad so far. Not to mention inconsistant shooting and not stepping up to the FT line. They could still MAKE the playoffs, but will go nowhere once again, which is the problem. This team has reached a plateau, and the plateau is pretty small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Yeah, they always start slow, blah blah blah. This team is in BIG trouble simply because the East is twice as good as it was last year, thrice as good as the year before, and Lord knows how much better than before that... This team got passed by by a lot of improving teams in the East. I can't believe some publications picked them over the Celtics, Magic, Pistons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Knicks vs Warriors had some interesting subplots The crowd began booing the Knicks even before the opening tip, and Stephon Marbury heard it in the opening moments of the game every single time he touched the ball. The first "Fire Isiah" chant rang out half-heartedly from the seats upstairs late in the second quarter with the Knicks trailing by 11 and well on their way to accumulating 29 turnovers, a shocking display of carelessness that more than negated their 52-36 rebounding edge. The chant resurfaced throughout the second half, reaching its pinnacle late in the fourth quarter despite the building being half-empty by then. Staying till the end and taking it all in from a courtside seat was Charles Oakley, who was slighted by the classless Knicks by not having his face shown on the center scoreboard during a timeout, as is the custom for visiting dignitaries and celebrities. (It reeked of the Knicks wanting to avoid having Oakley receive a standing ovation, which quickly could have morphed into an anti-Isiah or anti-Dolan chant). Oakley, however, was not the biggest VIP guest of the night. That honor was reserved for either commissioner David Stern, who watched the game from a skybox high atop the arena, or his main guest, United Nations secretary general Ban Ki-Moon, who attended with numerous other foreign dignitaries. Gotta hand it to the Knicks. When they come up with an epic stink job, they do it in front of some of the most important people in the world. (The U.N. is now expected to pass a unanimous resolution Wednesday ridiculing the Knicks). If you are gonna suck, you better make sure that the world notices. Things are bad with the Bulls, but they seem not so bad after you look at the Knicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Knicks beat the Bulls...god they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Bulls without Deng look done. I wonder if Skiles will be on the hot seat soon, or how about Paxson even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Went to Milwaukee last night for Bucks vs. Mavericks. Great game - they traded the lead a bunch of times, neither team being able to pull away, with Milwaukee ultimately taking the 97-95 win. Not a sellout crowd, but a nice crowd - probably 15 or 16,000. My daughter had a lot of fun for the first half, then fell asleep in the 3rd quarter. How that kid sleeps through all that noise at sporting events, I just don't know! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) Bulls without Deng look done. I wonder if Skiles will be on the hot seat soon, or how about Paxson even? If this doesn't right itself ASAP, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Skiles gone at the end of the year. He has what, 1 more year on his contract after this one? This roster should be an NBA Finals caliber roster in the east, and they're acting like they're playing for the #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Tank and draft Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Or trade all your young guys for Shaq. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 06:17 PM) Bulls without Deng look done. I wonder if Skiles will be on the hot seat soon, or how about Paxson even? Nah, Pax put good players in place and they arent playing. Neither one of them will be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 10:59 AM) Nah, Pax put good players in place and they arent playing. Neither one of them will be in trouble. If the Bulls only win 20-25 games this season (which is a real possibility right now), I can't see how either WON'T be on the hot seat. Paxson's fault's for example; 1 - Signing Ben Wallace to a 4 year deal. Right now the Bulls need cap space to re-sign Deng and Gordon, instead they give a $13-14M a season deal to an aging injury prone 30+ year old center. 2 - Drafting Ben Gordon over Andre Igoudola. 3 - Drafting Tyrus Thomas over LaMarcus Aldridge (at this stage, when the Bulls sorely needed a low post scorer instead of a running slasher). And is Skiles the right guy to coach the young players on the Bulls? Thomas for example doesn't have the best relationship with him. You can't just blame the players if things goes badly unfortunately, even though that's where the blame should lie. It just doesn't work that way. Scoring wise, the Bulls don't look capable of getting near 100 points a game at the moment. With Gordon in his usual early season slump, and Deng being injured, it puts more pressue on the likes of Hinrich, and they haven't stepped up and delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 07:09 AM) Or trade all your young guys for Shaq. Please. I bet Pat Riley would swap jobs with SVG right now if he could. Too bad he can't do that again. The Heat were just woeful on D when you played us yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Id definitely think Skiles would be on the hot seat with a dissapointing season, I think Paxson as of now has nothing to worry about. The only thing that stinks about the situation is that this is the draft loaded with guards and what we need is a big guy that can score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) I can't blame Skiles for this, the current Bulls mess goes directly onto the desk of John Paxson, as DBAHO put so well in particular with the 2 blatent errors of taking Ben over AI and Tyrus over LaMarcus, 2 moves that even the dumbest people on earth (me) knew were mistakes. Plus, if you have AI and LaMarcus, voila!! the 2 guard and inside scoring problems aren't there anymore. Skiles and the players obviously share the blame, but the majority of it HAS to be on Paxson between those things and other factors like the Ben Wallace and Andres Nocioni albatrosses.....errr contracts. I bet Pat Riley would swap jobs with SVG right now if he could. Too bad he can't do that again. Put that one squarely in the "karma is a b****" category. Good to see what goes around still comes around. Edited November 26, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Interesting night for the top Western Conference teams. San Antonio lost to Sacramento Dallas lost to Washington Phoenix lost to Golden State Utah lost to New York New Orleans lost to Minnesota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Look at the f***ing Knicks/Celtics score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 10:18 PM) Look at the f***ing Knicks/Celtics score... And it's been that way the whole game. They've almost doubled the Knicks in every quarter. Pretty damn funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 02:18 PM) Look at the f***ing Knicks/Celtics score... LMAO. I wonder if Zach Randolph still thinks they can beat anybody right now. Maybe this is the final straw for Isiah in New York. Surely it has to. Right? Oh, and Dwight is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 The Knicks are the perfect example as to why statistics aren't everything. With the talent they have on paper, their record should be reversed. They need to fire Isiah totally, melt it all down and start over again. They are such a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 11:14 AM) The Knicks are the perfect example as to why statistics aren't everything. With the talent they have on paper, their record should be reversed. They need to fire Isiah totally, melt it all down and start over again. They are such a mess. Huh? Only if you look at no stat except scoring. The talent they have on paper is almost defender-free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 AK-47 is just a sexy stat freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 So the Bulls have finally won back to back games. They basically won that game on the glass today. Bulls out rebounded Charlotte 48-24. Another poor performance by Hinrich though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dwight and Bynum had a nice battle with the blocks tonight. Nice to pull out another road win, think we're 10-2 on the road now. Kobe had 19 points in the 1stQ and I thought it could have been one of those nights, but we really fired back in the 2nd quarter. SVG should be coach of the year right now. Can't say enough good things about how much of an upgrade he is over Brian Hill. We're averaging about 15-20 more points a game on offense, and yet defensively we're still playing pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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