DBAHO Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 The top 4 teams in the East IMHO are the better than 2007. After that, it really, really drops off though. Toronto and Philly are the only 2 teams I could see maybe winning a series (albeit, a long shot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) I forgot to mention in the point guard debate the other day that Mike North does think Deron Williams is the best player in the NBA. I know that has no relevance, I just love the idea that somebody can actually be dumb enough to think that. Edited March 13, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 04:39 PM) The top 4 teams in the East IMHO are the better than 2007. After that, it really, really drops off though. Toronto and Philly are the only 2 teams I could see maybe winning a series (albeit, a long shot). It drops off in the east after Detroit and Boston. Those are the only 2 that have any shot to do anything big. Cleveland,Orlando,Toronto all have inflated records from playing in such a weak conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 10, 2008 -> 06:09 PM) As for Brand, it's possible, but the Clippers would probably want Gordon + Thomas maybe? Still if I'm the Bulls, that's a no brainer right there. I just caught this, and my god, I'd do that deal in a millisecond, provided Brand is healthy and producing like he usually does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) I just caught this, and my god, I'd do that deal in a millisecond, provided Brand is healthy and producing like he usually does. I wouldn't want to give up Noah in any deal for Brand since giving up both him and TT would leave us constantly stuck with only 1 big man, but otherwise, it'd be hard to come up wiht a deal that I wouldn't like for Brand. If he'd be willing to come back here at all that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 I think the Rockets streak ends Sunday vs. the Lakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(rangercal @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 01:21 AM) It drops off in the east after Detroit and Boston. Those are the only 2 that have any shot to do anything big. Cleveland,Orlando,Toronto all have inflated records from playing in such a weak conference. Cleveland has LeBron. Doesn't matter who they have around him, but they'll always be a +.500 team. Toronto is also above .500 for 1 reason, Jose Calderon. Good luck having him in the off-season. I think the Magic would still be battling for a playoff spot if they were in the West though. Dwight, Hedo and Lewis is one of the best 3-some's in the NBA today. They've made more 3 pointers than anyone, and if those shooters get hot in a series, I think we can take anyone down. I don't like our production at the guard spot though. I wish we had a lock down SG such as James Posey instead of the Evans / Bogans combo. Nelson / Dooling is a decent PG combo, Dooling's one of the best bench PG's in the game today easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 05:58 PM) Toronto is also above .500 for 1 reason, Jose Calderon. Good luck having him in the off-season. Pardon me sir, but you just spelled "Chris Bosh" incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) I think the Magic would still be battling for a playoff spot if they were in the West though. You really think so? Here is the record of Orlando and every Western Playoff team vs The Western Conference LA Lakers 26-10 Houston 23-13 San Antonio 23-16 Utah 26-15 New Orleans 29-14 Phoenix 20-18 Dallas 26-12 Golden state 20-13 Denver 22-17 Portland 20-17 Orlando 14-13 DO you really think you can get by playing 1 game over .500 against the west? As it is now, with Eastern Conference Competition, Orlando would barely be an 8th seed in the West, Having a .636 winning % compared to .635 from Golden St. If you placed Orlando in the West, they would have a very small chance at the playoffs . It is fair to say that Orlando would have 5 fewer wins and 5 more losses , putting them at 37-29 with a .560 winning percentage. That would put them in between 9th place Denver and 10th Place Portland. Good enough for 10th place. According to the Hollinger Playoff Odds, Denver has a 49.7% chance at the Playoffs and Portland has a 0.5 % chance at the playoffs, so you do the Math on where Orlando would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I said battling for a playoff spot, not neccesarilly winning one. Phoenix is only 2 games above .500 against the West, and yet they've won something like 42 games haven't they? So if you can be elite against the East, and decent in the West, you can still make the playoffs in the Western Conference. I'd also have to look at the home / road splits for Western Conference teams. If Orlando has played more on the road for example, then you have to take into account the amount of travel (from roadtrips etc.) they would do, compared if they were based out of I dunno, Sedona for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) I said battling for a playoff spot, not neccesarilly winning one. Well, you would be battling for a lottery pick too. QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) I said battling for a playoff spot, not neccesarilly winning one. Phoenix is only 2 games above .500 against the West, and yet they've won something like 42 games haven't they? It's ok to do when you win 84% of your games against the east. Though, Orlando has won 71% of their games vs Eastern Competition. QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) I If Orlando has played more on the road for example, then you have to take into account the amount of travel (from roadtrips etc.) they would do, compared if they were based out of I dunno, Sedona for example. Point taken, but I don't know if that would put you in the top 8, with 1 more loss under the current circumstances you would be out. The 07-2008 Orlando Magic would make the playoffs any year ,in either conference since 1984 (start of the 16 team format) , except in the 2008 Western Conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 That just shows how good the top 9 teams in the West are, and how unlucky (my guess is Denver) is going to be to miss out, because they'd be top 3-4 in the East easily. The Magic have basically played their season in 3 parts. Part 1 was opening 18-4, and ending with some huge wins on the road in the West. Part 2 was going under .500 for about 25 games, treading water. Majority of games at home. Part 3 has been since then when we've gotten back on track and beaten the majority of teams we've played. It depends which version shows up in the playoffs if we want to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Bulls choked in the 4th quarter again I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 10:33 PM) Bulls choked in the 4th quarter again I see. It was exactly like the Wizards game a few Friday ago, except the epic collapse tonight was in the 4th (outscored 40-20 and blew a 16 point lead!) instead of the third. Jim Boylan obviously isn't the coach for this team, and it's obviously this team doesn't care. It's going to be a fascinating battle between the Bulls patheticness (if that's a word) and the eastern conference's patheticness down the stretch. I think they might STILL make the playoffs, and that's just a shame and waste of time if they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 When he took Tyrus out the game, Philly went on, I believe, a 20-4 run or somethin like that in the 4th. Other than Gooden, the Bulls had no reboundin threat at all... or shot blockin. Of course I will bring this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Jazz beat the Celtics. Watch them lose the next game at New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Deron Williams had himself a game. He'd be the 1 player I'd love to pair with Dwight Howard for the next 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 15, 2008 -> 03:36 AM) Deron Williams had himself a game. He'd be the 1 player I'd love to pair with Dwight Howard for the next 10 years. Chris Paul had 26 and 17 last night again I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) When he took Tyrus out the game, Philly went on, I believe, a 20-4 run or somethin like that in the 4th. Other than Gooden, the Bulls had no reboundin threat at all... or shot blockin. Of course I will bring this up. I keep pointing out the same thing. Boylan is seemingly obsessed with his veteran rich, small lineup, with Deng/Noc at the PF Slot. It works on occasion, but he keeps going to it down the stretch or in key positions when the other team starts to make a run, putting TT and Noah on the bench, and the Bulls keep getting overpowered every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Make that 22 in a row for the surging Houston Rockets. They are now the #1 seed in the brutal western conference at the moment. They're 10-0 since Yao went down. And for those who didn't get to see the game, Shane Battier played some of the best damn defense on Kobe Bryant that I've EVER seen. I know Hammerhead would apperciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) Right, Tyrus' 0 points and 4 rebounds in 17 minutes was why they were winning. Come on, him not being in had nothing to do with it, they simply got killed on the perimeter. 18 of the 40 points came on long jumpers, and a bunch more came at the line. Those kind of things happen with a bad team, and Tyrus wasn't going to change that. Those kind of things also happen a lot more often when the other team's starters are on the floor, something Tyrus generally doesn't face. This team is seriously annoying though. There don't appear to be a whole lot of long term answers on the roster. Edited March 17, 2008 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=...?gid=2008031607 Um, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 11:23 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=...?gid=2008031607 Um, wow haha! Look at the +/- ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 10:23 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=...?gid=2008031607 Um, wow Yikes. As for the Houston streak, kudos to them, but they beat Dallas without Dirk, and now LA with Gasol. That said, I hope they keep going. Cool to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 10:23 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=...?gid=2008031607 Um, wow Unreal. Sorta reminds me of the 30 run game Texas put on in '07. It's not even just the 168 points. They beat them by 52!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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