Brian Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 No way they pass up on Rose. Hometown boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 20, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) To be fair, I'd prefer Beasley. I could see going either way...the question is, how much can you get for Deng/Tyrus versus how much can you get for Hinrich if you do a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong with Beasley or Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I heard if we sign Dean Smith to coach the team, Michael might come out of retirement, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I don't know how you can pass up Beasley at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 DERRICK ROSE? WHERE WOULD HE PLAY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Rose...ally oop to TYRUS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) I hope. Sign Deng, Bye Gordon, possibly goodbye Kirk. Ok, I fane ignorance because I never expected the Bulls to pick this high, so I havent "scouted" the top 3 guys. Is Rose a true Point Guard or can he play Shooting guard? That might alter who I want. I think Kirk and Rose can co-exist if Rose can play the 2. but I dont think Rose and Gordon can if Rose played 1. Edited May 21, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Rose is point guard. That is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:34 PM) Ok, I fane ignorance because I never expected the Bulls to pick this high, so I havent "scouted" the top 3 guys. Is Rose a true Point Guard or can he play Shooting guard? That might alter who I want. I think Kirk and Rose can co-exist if Rose can play the 2. but I dont think Rose and Gordon can if Rose played 1. Rose is a pure PG and a phenomenal one at that. He is a better prospect then Paul or Williams coming out of college and it would not be surprising at all if he surpassed those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 21, 2008 -> 01:34 AM) Ok, I fane ignorance because I never expected the Bulls to pick this high, so I havent "scouted" the top 3 guys. Is Rose a true Point Guard or can he play Shooting guard? That might alter who I want. I think Kirk and Rose can co-exist if Rose can play the 2. but I dont think Rose and Gordon can if Rose played 1. Rose is the most athletic point guard I've ever seen. Not a good shooter at this point, but he's the type of guy who improves every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:36 PM) Rose is the most athletic point guard I've ever seen. Not a good shooter at this point, but he's the type of guy who improves every game. Can he drop 25-30 on a regularly in a few years? If so, I am sold. Especailly if he can dish it out to players like Deng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 One of my favorite videos ever: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2008 -> 01:36 AM) Rose is the most athletic point guard I've ever seen. Not a good shooter at this point, but he's the type of guy who improves every game. He wasn't a good shooter, but he's got a good shot -- that's in my completely ametur opinion. And by good shot I mean he's got good mechanics, at least with his wrist.... as opposed to another certain point guard who attends a certain school in a certain city of Milwaukee (//rant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I dont believe the bulls got the 1st pick .. that is just amazing .... Lets trade it for Melo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 What number will Rose wear? He can't wear 23, and I hope we doesn't wear number 5... we had a Rose wear 5 and that wasn't so fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 20, 2008 -> 04:38 PM) Can he drop 25-30 on a regularly in a few years? If so, I am sold. Especailly if he can dish it out to players like Deng. How much has CP3 improved people like David West, Tyson Chandler? How much has Nash improve Amare, Marion, etc.? What kind of impact has Deron Williams had on Boozer? Raw talent, the Bulls front line is as loaded or more so than any of those teams. 3 top 10 picks sitting there in Tyrus, Noah, Deng. The reason you go for Rose is that you make all of them better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have said for a LONG time that Deng is a good "third best" player. Kind of like how Tony was back with Scotty and Michael. If we took Rose and he can score 20+ and dish it out, yea, I'm sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:40 PM) How much has CP3 improved people like David West, Tyson Chandler? How much has Nash improve Amare, Marion, etc.? What kind of impact has Deron Williams had on Boozer? Raw talent, the Bulls front line is as loaded or more so than any of those teams. 3 top 10 picks sitting there in Tyrus, Noah, Deng. The reason you go for Rose is that you make all of them better. Perfectly said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:40 PM) Raw talent, the Bulls front line is as loaded or more so than any of those teams. 3 top 10 picks sitting there in Tyrus, Noah, Deng. The reason you go for Rose is that you make all of them better. As i just posted, i think i have swung. Yea, Rose. Beasley is too "log jammed" with Noah and Tyrus. Not that he isnt better. that is just a lot people in one area with no consistent players at the guard position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 21, 2008 -> 01:43 AM) As i just posted, i think i have swung. Yea, Rose. Beasley is too "log jammed" with Noah and Tyrus. Not that he isnt better. that is just a lot people in one area with no consistent players at the guard position. Shouldn't you be in the primary/caucus thread? I depend on you for my pro-Obama updates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 20, 2008 -> 05:43 PM) As i just posted, i think i have swung. Yea, Rose. Beasley is too "log jammed" with Noah and Tyrus. Not that he isnt better. that is just a lot people in one area with no consistent players at the guard position. IMO, if the Bulls thought Beasley was THAT much better...then the move they have to make is to try to move some combination of Deng, Tyrus, and Hinrich for someone to fill their PG slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:42 PM) I have said for a LONG time that Deng is a good "third best" player. Kind of like how Tony was back with Scotty and Michael. If we took Rose and he can score 20+ and dish it out, yea, I'm sold. Rose WILL be the next CP3 or Deron Williams. Beasley will be the next HMMMM I don't know. I've never seen someone with his complete package. Shoot, rebound, block, defend... there's nothing he doesn't do well. I have a feeling the Bulls stick with Kirk and draft Beasley to play PF. Then trade something like Gordon/Tyrus for a legitimate scoring SG. At this point, with his contract, you just aren't going to get a lot for Kirk. Which would you rather have? Noah/Tyrus/Deng/Gordon/Rose and upgrade to the bench or future draft picks? Noah/Beasley/Deng/good SG (perhaps even a Gilbert sign and trade?)/Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2008 -> 12:47 AM) Rose WILL be the next CP3 or Deron Williams. Beasley will be the next HMMMM I don't know. I've never seen someone with his complete package. Shoot, rebound, block, defend... there's nothing he doesn't do well. I have a feeling the Bulls stick with Kirk and draft Beasley to play PF. Then trade something like Gordon/Tyrus for a legitimate scoring SG. At this point, with his contract, you just aren't going to get a lot for Kirk. Which would you rather have? Noah/Tyrus/Deng/Gordon/Rose and upgrade to the bench or future draft picks? Noah/Beasley/Deng/good SG (perhaps even a Gilbert sign and trade?)/Kirk Beasley is awful on defense. He really is D. Coleman, V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 20, 2008 -> 07:45 PM) IMO, if the Bulls thought Beasley was THAT much better...then the move they have to make is to try to move some combination of Deng, Tyrus, and Hinrich for someone to fill their PG slot. I dont see that happening. I dont think there are any great PGs on the market. At least not that I knwo of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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