BobDylan Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 QUOTE(Shadows @ Nov 11, 2007 -> 03:43 PM) Thats the only argument needed Last time I checked 0 losses is better than 1 loss.. K. Sweet. Not really. Your argument is non-sensical and subjective. The teams played in different years, they played different teams and the teams had different season lengths. If the '85 Bears played the '72 Dolphins schedule, they probably would have run off 14 in a row too. I'm not trying to take anything away from that Dolphins team, but there are a lot of factors involved that you're ignoring just because you want to ignore them. Your argument is like that of a child--you have one decent point and nothing to back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 10:45 PM) If you can throw out one missed field goal, the 98 Vikings were pretty amazing too Offensively they were great. Defensively, they left a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 01:24 PM) Not really. Your argument is non-sensical and subjective. The teams played in different years, they played different teams and the teams had different season lengths. If the '85 Bears played the '72 Dolphins schedule, they probably would have run off 14 in a row too. I'm not trying to take anything away from that Dolphins team, but there are a lot of factors involved that you're ignoring just because you want to ignore them. Your argument is like that of a child--you have one decent point and nothing to back it up. I don't need to back anything up.. its all there in front of you the best TEAM of all time is the only one that went undefeated.. TEAM is the key word here, it doesn't matter if the 85 Bears individually had better players.. The 72' Dolphins TEAM went undefeated.. The 72' Dolphins don't make their own schedule, they don't decided to play 14 regular games, they don't have control over time -- sorry years pass and 85 came around nothing they could have done about it thats just life.. The greatest TEAM of all time went undefeated.. don't try to tell me teams haven't had the same luxury of getting an easy schedule.. last time I checked football was played before 72' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I don't need to back anything up.. its all there in front of you the best TEAM of all time is the only one that went undefeated.. TEAM is the key word here, it doesn't matter if the 85 Bears individually had better players.. The 72' Dolphins TEAM went undefeated.. The 72' Dolphins don't make their own schedule, they don't decided to play 14 regular games, they don't have control over time -- sorry years pass and 85 came around nothing they could have done about it thats just life.. The greatest TEAM of all time went undefeated.. don't try to tell me teams haven't had the same luxury of getting an easy schedule.. last time I checked football was played before 72' If it was capable of happening, who do you think would win in a game between the 1972 Dolphins and the 1985 Bears? Why did Shula say the 1973 team was better than the 1972? Isn't it better to win 18 games instead of 17? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 The Bears come up all the time, too. The Dolphins come up when it's relevant -- you know, when they sit around eating cheese doodles in hopes that the last undefeated team finally loses, but that is hardly "better remembered" especially since the Bears are up all the time, too. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...mp;sportCat=nfl Thats' from just a few days ago and they frequently come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(Shadows @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 03:05 PM) I don't need to back anything up.. its all there in front of you the best TEAM of all time is the only one that went undefeated.. TEAM is the key word here, it doesn't matter if the 85 Bears individually had better players.. The 72' Dolphins TEAM went undefeated.. The 72' Dolphins don't make their own schedule, they don't decided to play 14 regular games, they don't have control over time -- sorry years pass and 85 came around nothing they could have done about it thats just life.. The greatest TEAM of all time went undefeated.. don't try to tell me teams haven't had the same luxury of getting an easy schedule.. last time I checked football was played before 72' What are you talking about? Do you even know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 What are you talking about? Do you even know? didn't you hear? The 1985 Bears won the Super Bowl as a bunch of individuals, not as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) All hail the 2001 Seattle Mariners. The best baseball team ever because they had the least amount of losses!!!!! Also Shadows, with your logic, you must think the 72-10 Bulls team was the best of all time right? Edited December 1, 2007 by DrunkBomber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 06:43 PM) What are you talking about? Do you even know? Yup.. Im done with it now though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Yup.. Im done with it now though In other words.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 07:12 PM) In other words.......... Yup sure, im owned alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 07:03 PM) Also Shadows, with your logic, you must think the 72-10 Bulls team was the best of all time right? They are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) They are. We all know that but I was curious if he thought so. I still wanna hear how the 2001 Mariners were the best baseball team ever. They lost the least amount of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(Shadows @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 03:05 PM) I don't need to back anything up.. its all there in front of you the best TEAM of all time is the only one that went undefeated.. TEAM is the key word here, it doesn't matter if the 85 Bears individually had better players.. The 72' Dolphins TEAM went undefeated.. The 72' Dolphins don't make their own schedule, they don't decided to play 14 regular games, they don't have control over time -- sorry years pass and 85 came around nothing they could have done about it thats just life.. The greatest TEAM of all time went undefeated.. don't try to tell me teams haven't had the same luxury of getting an easy schedule.. last time I checked football was played before 72' As soon as another team goes undefeated, the '72 Dolphins will be a footnote. The '85 Bears will always be in the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Dolphins give up 30 unanswered points. Now 0-12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...r/rankings/1-20 This is a great article that ESPN did a couple of years ago, ranking every super bowl participant. 85 Bears-#2 72 Dolphins-#7 The Bears were a much, much better team than the 72 Dolphins. If the Patriots go unbeaten we won't really hear of the 72 Dolphins anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 11:34 PM) We all know that but I was curious if he thought so. I still wanna hear how the 2001 Mariners were the best baseball team ever. They lost the least amount of games. That distinction definitely belongs to the 1906 Cubs, and not the Mariners. And I for one always hear about the 1927 Yankees before the 1906 Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 11:31 PM) That distinction definitely belongs to the 1906 Cubs, and not the Mariners. And I for one always hear about the 1927 Yankees before the 1906 Cubs. You should be hearing about the 1929 Athletics. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 30, 2007 -> 05:43 PM) If it was capable of happening, who do you think would win in a game between the 1972 Dolphins and the 1985 Bears? Why did Shula say the 1973 team was better than the 1972? Isn't it better to win 18 games instead of 17? By the way -- what does Shula know about the Dolphins of 72/73? He only coached them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 The Dolphins continue their proud march to 0-16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 keep it up miami! 0-16 is ultimately much more exciting to me than the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Posted it in the NFL catch-all too but I think it fits here: DON SHULA: "I'M COACH DON SHULA AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE." CHORUS DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 1 PICTURE US LOSIN' TO ANOTHER TEAM WE PLAYED WAY BACK IN THE DAY YOU SAID THE RECORD WAS MADE WE POSTED UNDEFEATED STATS THAT NOBODY COULD MATCH GOT PEOPLE LOOKIN' BACK AND SAYIN', "MAN, HOW'D THEY DO THAT?' WELL THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE IF YOU BUSTERS JUST DO THE MATH EVERYBODY GOT BEAT EACH TIME THEY STEPPED IN OUR PATH YOU MIGHT SAY IT'S A FLUKE THE DOLPHINS WON EVERY GAME SOMEBODY SHOW ME THE TEAM YOU SAY WHO'S RECORD'S THE SAME WHAT? WHEN YOU FINALLY SEE THE LIGHT AND THE TRUTH IS A MUST THERE'S NOT ANOTHER TEAM INSIDE THE PERFECT CIRCLE BUT US SINCE WE RAN THE TABLE ON `EM IT AIN'T BEEN THE SAME YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED YOU GOT WIN EVERY GAME I KNOW YOU WONDER! CHORUS DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 2 I KNOW YOU WONDER WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LACE UP THE SHOES OF A PLAYER STEPPIN' ON THE FIELD WITHOUT A THING TO LOSE THE BUSTERS POSIN' UP THE VIEW ON ESPN, ASKIN' ME THAT STUPID QUESTION, "YOU THINK THEY'LL DO IT AGAIN?" ONCE AGAIN I'M HOLDIN' SCHOOL ABOUT THE THOUGHT OF DEFEAT I GOT NO LOSSES ON MY TABLE SO YOU CAN'T TAKE MY SEAT MY PERFECT HISTORY WILL TELL YOU THAT THE RECORD'S COMPLETE STAND UP! YOU BUSTER'S PLAYIN' IF YOU TASTED DEFEAT EVERY YEAR THEY TRY TO BUST OUT TRYIN' TO CAPTURE THE CROWN I BEEN TRYIN' TO TELL YOU BUSTERS, YOU CAN'T PLAY IN OUR TOWN AND THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS STILL THE SAME YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED YOU GOT TO WIN EVERY GAME I KNOW YOU WONDER! CHORUS DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME? YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED OH, IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! HAVE YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME? OH, YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 3 SO YOU CHALLENGE MY RECORD WITH A COMPUTER SCHEME? USIN" NFL FILMS TO MAKE A FIELD OF DREAMS? SO ON PAPER WE LOST TO ANOTHER TEAM? BUT THAT WAS FANTASTY FOOTBALL, NOT THE REAL THING OUR PARKIN' SPOT IS IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S RECORD BOOK IF YOUR MEMORY IS HAZY, GO BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE STATS WE POSTED WHEN WE MADE THE CLIMB TO THE TOP OF THE SPORTS WORLD, AND YOU CAN'T DENY LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES WE PUT UP THE CROWN IT'S UP TO 35 YEARS AND WE'RE STILL AROUND IT'S NOT A SECRET HOW WE DID IT, THE EQUATION'S THE SAME YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED, YOU GOT TO WIN EVERY GAME I KNOW YOU WONDER! CHORUS DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME? IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! HAVE YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME? YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED! IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 4 NOW I'M INVITIN' ALL YOU BUSTERS TO A STATE OF PERFECTION WHERE A LOSS IN A GAME IS AUTOMATIC REJECTION YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND JOIN US DOWN IN MIA? JUST LIKE CHICAGO DID IN '85, THEY CAME TO PLAY BUT THEY FORGOT THE JINX WAS ON WHEN THEY STEPPED OFF IN THE ROOM THAT'S WHEN DANNY DUMPED UP ON `EM IN THE TEMPLE OF DOOM SHULA PSYCHED `EM OUT TO PLAY LIKE IT WAS `72 SO THE PERFECT SEASON STAYED WITH THE PERFECT CREW HOW COINCIDENTAL IS IT THAT THE BEARS ONLY TEST WOULD BE TO COME DOWN TO MIAMI TO GET THAT WEIGHT OFF THEIR CHEST? YOU KNOW YOU THE PATH TO GOIN' UNDEFEATED IS ALWAYS THE SAME YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED, YOU BETTER REMEMBER MY NAME! I KNOW YOU WONDER! CHORUS DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME? IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! HAVE YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME? YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED! MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 5 NOW LET ME END THIS CONVERSATION WITH SOME FRIENDLY ADVICE SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN ONCE IN A LIFE, THEY WON'T HAPPEN TWICE SO DON'T TRY TO RUN THE TABLE; CAUSE BY YOU, THAT CAN'T BE DONE YOU SEE, THE 16 STRAIGHT IN '72, WAS JUST TO PLAY IN ONE HM-HM (CHUCKLE OF IRONY) ANY GIVEN SUNDAY, PLAYER, EXCEPT IN `72 CHORUS IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 6 NOW GO ON ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS COACH, FLIP THAT BAD BOY OVER SO THEY CAN GRADUATE That's pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Finally a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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