Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 The only reason the Sox have a chance is if the Marlins like Fields and feel that the other offers will not net them a young 3b replacement. Crede is not even close to Fields value. With that being said Id give Fields and whatever 2 pitching spects the Marlins wanted. Id also try and maybe tell them wed pay Garlands salary, etc. I dont think it will happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 the Marlins won't bite on Gio/Broadway. I don't think anyone will. And Crede has little trade value -- they definitely won't want an injured 3rd baseman with one year left and the Agent From Hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I'd love Cabrera's bat... but not his glove. I'd rather hold onto Fields and move Cabrera to DH after Thome leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Josh Chicago: Chicago Sun Times had an article in today's paper about a Josh Fields, Lance Broadway, and Gio Gonzalez for Miguel Cabrera trade. Does this make sense for either team? SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:37 PM ET ) I saw that, and that seems a little bit light for Cabrera, doesn't it? Gonzalez is interesting, but at best I think you're getting No. 3 and 5 starters and a solid regular at third base. That doesn't blow me away at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Seems light to me as well, thats why if the Marlins ask for it I make the trade without hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 08:31 AM) Yes. Fields is one of the in the organization that would have real value to Flordia. A deal of Fields/Gio/DLS would certainly be something Flordia would have to listen to. One or the other with Gio or DLS...but not both IMO. And I'm not sure which one I'd rather keep...but I lean towards DLS. Hopefully include Broadway or Floyd instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I really dont think the Sox are in a position to dictate the trade. DLS and Gio may turn out awesome, but they have done nothing at the MLB level. Cabrera is one of the top hitters in baseball already. Not to mention some of the other pitching spects being thrown around make DLS and Gio look really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 03:14 PM) I really dont think the Sox are in a position to dictate the trade. DLS and Gio may turn out awesome, but they have done nothing at the MLB level. Cabrera is one of the top hitters in baseball already. Not to mention some of the other pitching spects being thrown around make DLS and Gio look really bad. And Miggy is 24 years old. Hes not even close to peaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 If they ask for Fields, Gio, and DLS, I do it without hesitation. Miggy is one of the few players on the market I'd give up a fortune for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Im in agreement with the previous 2 posts. Some players you just have to pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 How much longer until Cabrera is a FA? He can't have more than a year or two left under team control/arbitration, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(WCSox @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 03:29 PM) How much longer until Cabrera is a FA? He can't have more than a year or two left under team control/arbitration, no? 2 seasons I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WCSox Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 01:38 PM) 2 seasons I believe. I'd rather not trade Fields for two seasons of Cabrera, especially considering that the Sox probably won't be competitive in 2009. They need to hold onto their cheap, young talent and build around them. If it's going to take Josh to get Cabrera, I'd rather that Kenny just signed Hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 The Sox are going to have a s*** load of money to spend by 2010 when Cabrera is ready to cash in. He'll only be 27 years old and I definitely think the Sox would be willing to pay him what he's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 01:45 PM) The Sox are going to have a s*** load of money to spend by 2010 when Cabrera is ready to cash in. He'll only be 27 years old and I definitely think the Sox would be willing to pay him what he's worth. I wouldn't be so sure of that. Cabrera's going to command somewhere in the neighborhood of $150 million by then. There is some precedent of the powers that be opening the coffers (Belle), but what's to stop the Yankees or Red Sox from out-bidding JR & Co.? Both of those teams are going to be looking at replacing their aging sluggers by then as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(WCSox @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 03:48 PM) I wouldn't be so sure of that. Cabrera's going to command somewhere in the neighborhood of $150 million by then. There is some precedent of the powers that be opening the coffers (Belle), but what's to stop the Yankees or Red Sox from out-bidding JR & Co.? Both of those teams are going to be looking at replacing their aging sluggers by then as well. The sox are the type of team that would try to extend a player like that first. Just so everyone is familiar. Miggy would bring a 300+ BA .400+ OBP slg almost 1.000 around 30 hr and 100+rbi. Hes hit over 30 doubles the last 4 seasons topping off at 50 in 2006. Hes a damn good player, and should even improve his batting eye, as hes shown at least an improvement in walks and strikeouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Plus, even though he isn't in great shape, he ain't a base clogger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) The sox are the type of team that would try to extend a player like that first. Just so everyone is familiar. Miggy would bring a 300+ BA .400+ OBP slg almost 1.000 around 30 hr and 100+rbi. Hes hit over 30 doubles the last 4 seasons topping off at 50 in 2006. Hes a damn good player, and should even improve his batting eye, as hes shown at least an improvement in walks and strikeouts. He tends to put up an OPS+ in the 150's. So you'll be getting production similar to '06 Dye (151), '06 Thome (155) and '07 Thome (150) except he's 24 years old and only getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 01:56 PM) The sox are the type of team that would try to extend a player like that first. I would certainly hope so. If they could pull it off, I'd be pretty happy, even if it cost Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Per Olney: The most interesting trade parameter mentioned is what the Marlins may ask the Dodgers for, in return for All-Star third baseman Miguel Cabrera: third baseman Andy LaRoche, minor league pitcher Clay Kershaw and an outfielder -- perhaps Matt Kemp. If this is the asking price, we have absolutley NOTHING to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 04:08 PM) Per Olney: If this is the asking price, we have absolutley NOTHING to offer. I knew we had nothing to offer before all of the obvious information about his price came out. It's kind of a "no s***" moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 04:09 PM) I knew we had nothing to offer before all of the obvious information about his price came out. It's kind of a "no s***" moment. Not as ridiculous as this question on Callis's chat Bill (Chi-Town): Any chance the Cubs could package Marmol, Pie and Hill for Sanatana? Would the Twins bite at such an offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Twins might be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 04:42 PM) Twins might be interesting. I'd trade Sanatana for that package in a hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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