Chisoxfn Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 07:55 PM) I have a feeling that Kenny Williams would have already had this deal done if this is all it takes to get Cabrera in a White Sox uniform. If not, he should be fired NOW and I am not a KW hater as many of you know. This is a no brainer. He is possibly the best hitter in baseball and plays good in the field. You have so many possible options if you do this trade. Keep or trade Crede. Keep or trade Konerko. Keep or trade Garland. We would finally be adding a known commodity - a known superstar - in the prime of his career with 2 years left on his contract. NO BRAINER!!!!!!!! The Sox would than just swing Konerko to fill any holes that Cabrera's move created and than give Cabrera the largest contract in White Sox history. Hell, if they were able to move a starting pitcher as well (for some talent) they'd probably be able to bring Cabrera and Konerko in. And yes, I'd make that deal in a heartbeat...a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 07:33 PM) Which is exactly why he's very "touchable". Kind of scary, isn't it? The words "Jenks" and "touchable" should never be in the same sentence. That's just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 A pillsbury doughboy like image just entered my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chombi Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 No So then what do you think we do? Do we sell high and if no problems ever occur, so be it? Or do we wait for his first struggles so the media can blame his arm and then have to sell low? Maybe we can still deal him in a Mike Sirotka fashion if that were to happen with Jenks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(Chombi and the Fungi @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 11:25 PM) So then what do you think we do? Do we sell high and if no problems ever occur, so be it? Or do we wait for his first struggles so the media can blame his arm and then have to sell low? Maybe we can still deal him in a Mike Sirotka fashion if that were to happen with Jenks. What will happen: The Sox will hold onto him and lock him up to a long term deal sometime between the end of the '08 season and the beginning of the '10 season. What I would do: Sell high, if there's a market for him (which there should be) I'd deal him away for 2-3 very good young players to fill a few holes then sign a closer in free agency. The closer is actually one of the easier roles to fill IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Sun Times says the Sox are still after Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Also the yankees want to move Matsui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:00 AM) Also the yankees want to move Matsui. That'd be stupid. He's probably their best hitter now that ARod is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:01 AM) That'd be stupid. He's probably their best hitter now that ARod is gone. They apparently want to move him. I would take him in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:01 AM) That'd be stupid. He's probably their best hitter now that ARod is gone. Eh, I'd disagree. Jeter is much better though he doesn't hit for as much power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) He's their best middle of the order hitter now... Edited November 9, 2007 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 How about we trade our whole farm system for Cabrera and have a middle of the order of... 3. Cabrera, LF 4. Thome, DH 5. Konerko, 1B 6. Dye, RF 7. Fields, 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:32 AM) How about we trade our whole farm system for Cabrera and have a middle of the order of... 2. Hunter 3. Cabrera, LF 4. Thome, DH 5. Konerko, 1B 6. Dye, RF 7. Fields, 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 How are you trading for Cabrera without giving up one of Fields or the prospects from a Konerko trade? If it's possible to get him without subtracting one of the two then you probably have the most potent lineup in White Sox history but I don't really see how that could be pulled off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:37 AM) How are you trading for Cabrera without giving up one of Fields or the prospects from a Konerko trade? If it's possible to get him without subtracting one of the two then you probably have the most potent lineup in White Sox history but I don't really see how that could be pulled off. Yes, Fields would most likely be included in any trade, unless they would take Crede and half of our minor league system. Oh and we would have to pay Crede's salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 08:42 AM) Yes, Fields would most likely be included in any trade, unless they would take Crede and half of our minor league system. Oh and we would have to pay Crede's salary. LOL, if they'd take Crede as opposed to Fields...I think they could hold a bake sale for the fans and come up with enough money to cover Crede's salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 11:09 AM) They have zero use for Crede. The Marlins aren't going to compete next year with Cabrera, let alone without out him. They are looking for good, young, CHEAP talent. Crede really isn't any of those. Due to the lack of talent in the minor leagues, Fields is a must in any package for Cabrera. Which is why i wasnt listing it as a realistic possibility, it would be the only other thing we could throw out instead of Josh, and it wouldnt happen. Pretty much we have no packages that could be put together for Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 11:09 AM) LOL, if they'd take Crede as opposed to Fields...I think they could hold a bake sale for the fans and come up with enough money to cover Crede's salary. According to Forbes, Loria made $53 million in Marlin profit last season. If they locked the gates and let no fans in, they would make money, that's how sad it is. Their revenue sharing check is bigger than their payroll. Basically the Yankees pay the Marlins more than the Marlins pay their employees including players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 we could trade them a package with any of those guys, the Marlins could turn Garland into more prospects via trading him. It is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) we could trade them a package with any of those guys, the Marlins could turn Garland into more prospects via trading him. It is possible I'd like to send Garland to another team in the NL such as the Mets etc and bring back at least 2 spects that we may be able to package somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 11:34 AM) I'd like to send Garland to another team in the NL such as the Mets etc and bring back at least 2 spects that we may be able to package somewhere else. IMO, if the biggest weakness on this team right now is the weakness in our minor leagues and lack of impact guys coming up...with the way the current market stands, it might well be a mistake to trade a guy like Garland for youth and then move that youth...just because our system doesn't have any. That said, I think I've argued for both sides here...that maybe Cabrera could be had for less than we think because of team's reluctance to give away prospects, but that the White Sox would also be smart to hold onto anyone they can get, for different reasons, so I don't know why I'm still talking. Blah blah blah blah, I'm going to the gym. Go bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) According to Forbes, Loria made $53 million in Marlin profit last season. If they locked the gates and let no fans in, they would make money, that's how sad it is. Their revenue sharing check is bigger than their payroll. Basically the Yankees pay the Marlins more than the Marlins pay their employees including players. I'll never forgive Loria or MLB for what they've done and do in Florida and Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Miguel Cabrera-3B- Marlins Nov. 11 - 1:15 pm et The White Sox are in the mix for Miguel Cabrera, with the intention of playing him in left field, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal reports. Rosenthal suggests a package of Josh Fields, Gio Gonzalez and Jerry Owens, though he admits it could be too light. Which it would be. Trading Jon Garland for a couple of prospects and then packaging those prospects with Fields and/or Gonzalez might work. The Marlins could also have some interest in Nick Masset and David Aardsma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Ha! Ill give them Josh, Gio, Jerry, Nick and David. Go ahead take the whole bunch of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 this is good news so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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