Gregory Pratt Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Barton is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 1, 2007 -> 10:35 AM) Barton is awesome. Plus, he could design the team airplane to be more fuel efficient and save Kenny $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(Calderon @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 02:05 PM) Barton's intriguing, and an odd story. It's not often that you see a guy go undrafted out of a powerhouse like Miami and then rake (even at an advanced age) in High-A and Double-A. Teams were scared off by an internship that he had lined up at Boeing thanks to his aeronautical engineering studies in college. Cleveland went after him and signed him cheap as a FA. He can play. I can't comment on his desire this past season, but he can play a bit. He seems pretty committed from this Q&A Brian Barton Q&A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 How does a RHP who can't hit 90 and has no plus pitch consistently strike out more than a batter an inning and put up the kind of solid numbers he has, year in and year out (with one exception, 2005)? I'm not qualified to answer the question but it's a good one. Obviously he has some skills. I also agree with the other poster who said why not drop Andy Gonzalez who appears clearly overmatched at the major league level, and put this guy on the 40 instead. No one knows if Hernandez can survive at the MLB level or not but he's had minor league success. All I know is their reasoning. On the surface I don't agree with it and it appears most here don't either. Then again, I'm not a scout nor do I know anythng about any other factors which may have entered into it. My hope is, they add better players to take up 40 man spots, guys who are clearly better than either this Hernandez guy or Andy Gonzalez or several others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) The catcher the Cubs made available, Tony Richie, was originally drafted by the White Sox, 5th round? and wasn't signed. He was relatively highly touted when he was drafted (both by the Sox and Cubs). IIRC he was out of FSU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 we still might be able to keep Hernandez as he might go undrafted due to the fact that there could be a lack of teams actually thinking he is ready for the bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 1, 2007 -> 08:39 PM) we still might be able to keep Hernandez as he might go undrafted due to the fact that there could be a lack of teams actually thinking he is ready for the bigs. If that happens, then nobody here will want him: "He was passed on by 30 ML teams. What's he still doing here?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 1, 2007 -> 01:47 PM) IIRC he was out of FSU? You are correct sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 another guy to keep an eye on is Yohan Pino... http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/Yohan-Pino.shtml http://twins.scout.com/2/563806.html He struggled at AA, but he's worth the risk of a bullpen arm and possible future starter, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Dec 1, 2007 -> 12:49 PM) I also agree with the other poster who said why not drop Andy Gonzalez who appears clearly overmatched at the major league level, and put this guy on the 40 instead. No one knows if Hernandez can survive at the MLB level or not but he's had minor league success. Which is, of course, something that Andy Gonzalez hasn't had... 716 OPS in 2300 MiLB at bats. (Happily, though, AGon actually takes a walk). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Anyone know if we're even eligible to take a rule five pick?? Is our forty man roster full right now or what. I read that if it's full then we're not allowed to pick in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 QUOTE(bighurt4life @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 04:00 AM) Anyone know if we're even eligible to take a rule five pick?? Is our forty man roster full right now or what. I read that if it's full then we're not allowed to pick in the draftI beleve for us to participate in choosing someone in the ruleV draft we too have to have an opening on the 40 man roster. Is that correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I beleve for us to participate in choosing someone in the ruleV draft we too have to have an opening on the 40 man roster. Is that correct ? [/quote Teams must file their 40-man rosters by Nov. 20, and only those not at the full allotment of 40 may select players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(forrestg @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 11:10 AM) I beleve for us to participate in choosing someone in the ruleV draft we too have to have an opening on the 40 man roster. Is that correct ? We'd have to make room since whoever we select would have to stay on our 25 man roster for the whole year if we want to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 The Sox havent really selected anybody recently, so I am not surprised that they probably wont select anybody this year. Seems like a shame though, lose Hernandez, keep Gonzalez, and to not pick up anyone, not even to gain some cash in a draft and trade type deal, with the #8 pick (as I believe it would be the same order as the firsty year draft) it just seems like a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 We should add this guy Often compared to Twins righthander Matt Guerrier for his command and control rather than pure stuff, Hernandez is also an innings-eater with an above-average curveball. "This is a guy someone’s going to bite on," said one National League scouting director. "He’s all guts and showed the ability to shut people down with games on the line. He profiles as more of a middle reliever, but any manager you talk to who’s had him will tell you they’re not afraid to put him in there in the ninth inning. "His fastball can be fringy, but he’s got a pretty good curveball with a lot of depth to it, and his changeup is probably his second-best pitch." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 07:45 PM) We should add this guy I'm pretty sure it's official Rule 5 draft policy that Sox leave a talented reliever unprotected. Isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 08:45 PM) We should add this guy It justs drives me crazy that we are in need for so much bullpen depth while we waste space on gonzalez, atleast trade away aardsma or masset in time to make room for him. AHHHH, this time seriously drives me crazy because I want it to succeed so bad, and giving up on a guy like this just seems so stupid. "An innings eater" ??? sounds like exactly what we need, plus he has moxie? I would so much rather have that with his stuff than a scared s***less aardsma out on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 07:49 PM) I'm pretty sure it's official Rule 5 draft policy that Sox leave a talented reliever unprotected. Isn't it? ah yes, the mystery of why we didn't put Fabio Castro on our 40 man reason for some stupid ass reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 08:45 PM) We should add this guy Article already posted here... twice. But it seems since they decided to protect Andy Gonzalez instead, that now the only way to sign him is hope no one acquires him in the Rule V, and then sign him to a minor league deal. Except someone is probably going to, so he's lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I would hope the Sox would take Barton with all that's happend with our CF situation (if he would happen to fall to us obviously). Another interesting name to come up is Jeff Allison, the marlins farmhand who had all the off the field problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) Here's a link to some 2007 Rule 5 info and stories on MiLB.com There are several available players listed here, including former first round picks. Another interesting prospect available is Jamie D'Antona, the DBacks AAA 3B, who was left exposed due to roster management issues the team is dealing with. D'Antona (25) hit .308 with with a .362 OBP and .861 OPS in 2007. DBack fans are sick that he was left off their 40-man. If we didn't already have too many 3Bs I'd want us to take him. Edited December 6, 2007 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 QUOTE(scenario @ Dec 6, 2007 -> 12:45 AM) Here's a link to some 2007 Rule 5 info and stories on MiLB.com There are several available players listed here, including former first round picks. Another interesting prospect available is Jamie D'Antona, the DBacks AAA 3B, who was left exposed due to roster management issues the team is dealing with. D'Antona (25) hit .308 with with a .362 OBP and .861 OPS in 2007. DBack fans are sick that he was left off their 40-man. If we didn't already have too many 3Bs I'd want us to take him. Getting absolutely dominated in winter league - .195 (8 for 41)/.227/.220/.447 with 1 XBH. Absolutely mashed lefties last year...the numbers may be a bit off, but something close to .390/.443/.662/1.105 in 150 or so plate appearances with 23 XBHs. I'd love him to fill in at all the corners (being 1B/3B/LF/RF, regardless as to whether he's actually played the outfield; evenso, the Sox don't have a 1B/3B, so that would work out just fine in my book). Not that the Sox would do something like DFA AGonz, but a guy can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chombi Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Saw that the Drays are selling their first pick again. Why don't we get in on this? 100k? u serious? i'd pay it if KW would do it. Padres appear to have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Isn't our 40 man filled and we therefore do not even get a pick. Nobody could be better than Andy Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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